Barisone assessment

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

Some highlights of MHG testimony that can be found here:

NJ v. Michael Barisone Trial Day 2 - Mary Gray - Defendant’s Girlfriend

1. I need people here…that " they (rob and lauren) will be broken by force of numbers" . He said he would gather everyone together. - Her father, her son, Mary Defranco, Ruth Cox, August 3, 2019 - Minute number 40:10
2. “I will make it so miserable for them that they will beg to go elsewhere. Watch me. This I am very very good at.” July 13, 2019 - Minute number on video 38:19
3. MHG and Michael discussed ways to get rid of Rob and Lauren. July 19 and August 19
4. Michael never told them to leave as per Mary Haskins on August 3rd 2019 - Minute number on video 41:52

@Seeker1

I have provided the video with all of the information about who said what. It is a little unclear about the sequence of events and who said what. I only know what Heymer testified to saying. Not sure who said anything else.

@Seeker1

yes.

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[Sdel]

Nice bait and switch. Interesting that all of that is from TEXT. Where were the recordings?

[hut-ho78]

@roseymare

It took until the bottom of page 3 on a quoted search for me. I cannot imagine that it would have come up sooner for you as I search book titles fairly regularly and read a ton of links that I read from a librarian group I am a member of. (although I am not a librarian- I love the group and they are open to all) So books and authors are a big search term for me and surely google knows that.

And furthermore the two links I come up with are for the auction of the letter. And I search auctions and sell collectibles.

My guess is algorithms.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Seeker1

Some highlights of MHG testimony that can be found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CaQGzfdEg8&t=2s

1. I need people here…that "they (rob and lauren) will be broken by force of numbers". He said he would gather everyone together. - Her father, her son, Mary Defranco, Ruth Cox, August 3, 2019 - Minute number 40:10
2. “I will make it so miserable for them that they will beg to go elsewhere. Watch me. This I am very very good at.” July 13, 2019 - Minute number on video 38:19
3. MHG and Michael discussed ways to get rid of Rob and Lauren. July 19 and August 19
4. Michael never told them to leave as per Mary Haskins on August 3rd 2019 - Minute number on video 41:52

Thank you for posting that.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@Seeker1

Some highlights of MHG testimony that can be found here:

NJ v. Michael Barisone Trial Day 2 - Mary Gray - Defendant’s Girlfriend

1. I need people here…that " they (rob and lauren) will be broken by force of numbers" . He said he would gather everyone together. - Her father, her son, Mary Defranco, Ruth Cox, August 3, 2019 - Minute number 40:10
2. “I will make it so miserable for them that they will beg to go elsewhere. Watch me. This I am very very good at.” July 13, 2019 - Minute number on video 38:19
3. MHG and Michael discussed ways to get rid of Rob and Lauren. July 19 and August 19
4. Michael never told them to leave as per Mary Haskins on August 3rd 2019 - Minute number on video 41:52

@Seeker1

I have provided the video with all of the information about who said what. It is a little unclear about the sequence of events and who said what. I only know what Heymer testified to saying. Not sure who said anything else.

@Seeker1

yes.

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Thanks for reposting the MHG testimony. Can’t be posted enough. She was a wealth of information. Polite too.

[Seeker1]

Im just showing what mary haskins testfied to under oath

[Seeker1]

they will be broken by force of numbers!!

[Sdel]

I don’t really care about a few texts taken out of context and twisted. Look around, a lot of people wouldn’t want LK around their barn or in their sport.

[Incantation]

@MHM

I’ve always wondered the same thing about the fainting goats. How could fainting under duress be an evolutionary advantage? Wouldn’t that just make them an easier meal for whatever was chasing them when they fainted? Ditto for the possums that play dead.

I am not caught up, so not sure if this has been addressed yet. Fainting goats are a product of artificial selection - people thought they were cool, so bred for the mutation.
Possums actually go into shock and become comatose.

[trubandloki]

@Seeker1

Im just showing what mary haskins testfied to under oath

@Seeker1

they will be broken by force of numbers!!

@Incantation

I am not caught up, so not sure if this has been addressed yet. Fainting goats are a product of artificial selection - people thought they were cool, so bred for the mutation.

OH wow. How interesting. Thank you.

[FitzE]

Well, it is fairly prescient. The force of numbers is clearly apparent when taking into account the jury, the vast majority of YouTube posters, and most posters/lurkers on here who do not believe LK and RG at all.

[roseymare]

no it wasn’t I had meant to but forgot. As you have noted. Possums is basically a coping mechanism- which does work as many of us have seen. Fainting goats are a genetic defect that people continued to breed because of well people.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

I don’t really care about a few texts taken out of context and twisted. Look around, a lot of people wouldn’t want LK around their barn or in their sport.

Even if you had license to invent whatever context you wanted to, what is a hypothetical context that would make either #1 or 2 look benign?

[Seeker1]

The context was right in the video.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Even if you had license to invent whatever context you wanted to, what is a hypothetical context that would make either #1 or 2 look benign?

@Seeker1

The context was right in the video.

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[Sdel]

@Seeker1

The context was right in the video.

“Finish the bastard”, the plan to destroy MB, and forging signatures and crafting contracts (which is a criminal act) context was right there too. It counted more.

[KurPlexed]

So strange how LK is the common denominator for so much hatred from so many people, both known and unknown. Wonder why that is. Your “poor baby”…I can’t even finish the sentence. I’ll be banned.

[jvanrens]

1. Force of numbers, show them that everyone at the farm doesn’t want them there anymore, especially the owner that’s moved out of his home because of harassing behaviour, and then continued to be harassed in the stable clubroom after moving out. Not to mention the working student that was harassed by RG. WTF sort of a$$ grown up does that to a teen?
2. She has in the past helped show an unwanted boarder out the door. Handy person to have around if you’re at your wits end with someone.

I don’t see anything to be worried about by those statements, but I tend to play nice and work with the farm owners and not plant listening devices around the farm and post threating things on Facebook, but maybe I’m funny that way.

Seriously, I wouldn’t mind someone with more experience helping evicting a PITA client if I was in such a situation. Thankfully all the ones I had to deal with in the past left on their own. My current farm owner will just tell them to GTFO, so no assistance required for him.

[Warmblood1]

@Seeker1

1. I need people here…that " they (rob and lauren) will be broken by force of numbers" . He said he would gather everyone together. - Her father, her son, Mary Defranco, Ruth Cox, August 3, 2019 - Minute number 40:10
   2. “I will make it so miserable for them that they will beg to go elsewhere. Watch me. This I am very very good at.” July 13, 2019 - Minute number on video 38:19
2. MHG and Michael discussed ways to get rid of Rob and Lauren. July 19 and August 19
3. Michael never told them to leave as per Mary Haskins on August 3rd 2019 - Minute number on video 41:52

What does this prove other than MB was desperate for LK to leave? He is not stating he will physically harm her. He is not stating he will ruin her life. He is stating that he needs others in collaboration to try to convince LK to leave. These texts make it obvious that there was great animosity early on and that the entire farm wanted her off the property. She knew that yet she dug in and refused to go. That is indefensible behavior.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Even if you had license to invent whatever context you wanted to, what is a hypothetical context that would make either #1 or 2 look benign?

Those statements simply reflect MB’s intense desire to get them out of the barn to be someone else’s problem/drama. LK was smug about their recordings and camera and harassment. MB just wanted to get them gone. LK had zero intention of leaving. Trying to make those comments into a murder threat is nonsense.

Having seen a barn ruined by a smirking, self- important barn manager who harassed and intimidated the long time boarders and made every day an ordeal… and was also stealing from us - I may have made similar statements. It took all of the boarders and me to meet and convince the BO that said manager had to go. We were stressed. We were vehement. The boarders were ready to leave.

The vile manager was fired the next day.