Barisone assessment

[KurPlexed]

The girl she bought horses from.

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@KurPlexed

According to testimony back in March. I think the 20th, MHG had told her it’s time to go and MB was trying to make nice. So it’s reasonable to assume the pressures were present back then as well.

Eta. I also believe March 27th is when she told RW that she bought cameras but then said she lied

You’re so close - the dates were in April. But the context is what was in testimony. And for further context, back in April, LK was not happy being trained by JH and MHG instead of MB, per testimony of, well, pretty much everyone except law enforcement.

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

Jay-T’s USEF/USDF ownership was updated to LK well after the incident occurred. I recall posts on the early threads saying he was still listed in Barisone’s name (which isn’t unusual). To my recollection she bought in April or May 2019 but I could be off a few months. What are you thinking?

I was wondering if MB was holding off on formal eviction proceedings because the financial transaction hadn’t been finalized yet. It’s just conjecture on my part because we apparently don’t know for sure when the horse was actually paid for, but if there was still an outstanding balance, I can certainly understand why he wouldn’t want to rock the boat and force her to leave before he received final payment.

[Wind_Horse]

Well dang. I didn’t mean to delete my post.
I obviously don’t post much

[trubandloki]

I think you can get it back, let me test.

Edit to add -
@Wind_Horse, you CAN restore that post. Scroll to the actual post and you should see this return arrow (see screen shot below). Just hit that and your post will be restored.

[Wind_Horse]

Thank you!

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@Warmblood1

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Does anyone else find it odd that the alleged 60 something year old mother of a 40 something year old adult ammy rider is so focused on her daughter’s prior trainer’s prior girlfriend, and keeps on mentioning her daughter’s prior trainer’s ex wife / wives?

I find this quite notable.

Agree 100 percent. It’s all exceptionally odd. The obsessive focus on MHG and the attempts to defame her are odd. The fact that other “unaffiliated” posters share this same obsession with MHG is odd. Holding on to IM’s every word is odd. Bringing MHG’s ex-husband into matters trying to damage his name is odd. And desperate.

Iron E (this is such a great name for a grey horse, I forgot who came up with it but super idea)

Agree 100 percent. It’s all exceptionally odd. The obsessive focus on _____(insert either main party) and the attempts to defame her are odd. The fact that other “unaffiliated” posters share this same obsession with ___ (insert Either main party) is odd. Holding on to ____(insert as desired) every word is odd. Bringing ___________(insert friends/family/romantic interest) into matters trying to damage _____(his/her) name is odd. And desperate.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Apparently the “finish the bastard” text was only hours before the shooting and he had not even seen it.

Are you saying you think MB was on the Finish the Bastard text chain?

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Does anyone else find it odd that the alleged 60 something year old mother of a 40 something year old adult ammy rider is so focused on her daughter’s prior trainer’s prior girlfriend, and keeps on mentioning her daughter’s prior trainer’s ex wife / wives?

I find this quite notable.

Not under the circumstances.

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Does anyone else find it odd that the alleged 60 something year old mother of a 40 something year old adult ammy rider is so focused on her daughter’s prior trainer’s prior girlfriend, and keeps on mentioning her daughter’s prior trainer’s ex wife / wives?

I find this quite notable.

Extremely. Almost obsessively.
Projecting maybe?

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

Iron E (this is such a great name for a grey horse, I forgot who came up with it but super idea)

Agree 100 percent. It’s all exceptionally odd. The obsessive focus on _____(insert either main party) and the attempts to defame her are odd. The fact that other “unaffiliated” posters share this same obsession with ___ (insert Either main party) is odd. Holding on to ____(insert as desired) every word is odd. Bringing ___________(insert friends/family/romantic interest) into matters trying to damage _____(his/her) name is odd. And desperate.

@hut-ho78

Not under the circumstances.

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@Jenerationx

Over 2K posts in a couple days, I thought something actually happened. Nope just team LK trying to spew some new lies.

@Seeker1

Why are their negotiations any of your business?

That’s relevant to their agreement for her to be there. A better question is how is MHG and MB’s romantic relationship any of LK’s business or any of your business? I’ve never had a trainer, coach, client, business relationship where that person’s sexual or romantic relationship had any bearing on my relationship with them. Unless LK was looking to dump RG and latch onto MB as a possible sugar daddy, what did MHG’s relationship with MB matter?

These threads were originally just trying to understand what happened and why and I think still are. I’m not sure how much they still are because of the growing use of the internet to influence events and I wonder about that spilling into court systems.

The relationship between the three is even considered by a Court TV podcast (posted upthread) as central to the start of the discord.

[SpicyPRE]

MaMaPopRider is taking over the attempt to control the narrative. The problem is is this group is not easily controlled.

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@trubandloki

One thing I find strange in all this is that some people act like LK had no option but to stay because darn it, she is owed something, in a way that implies that LK does not have the ability or knowledge how to use the legal system to get her own way.

LK could have easily left at the first sign of things not being just how she wanted, when she was posting on Facebook that things were not happy, when all those people on Facebook were begging to help her. She could have then turned around, and with the help of her always there for her father sued MB or MHG or whoever else wronged her for whatever she felt she was wronged about.

There was no reason at all for her to hang around and be miserable.

Ok. Finally. I agree with you @trubandloki.

She should have left. He should not have shot her. A completely unnecessary tragedy.

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@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

What was the date of the “Finish the bastard” text? Weeks after the July 13 “plan” to make them miserable? Days after MB and MHG were compiling a 750 page complaint to send to USEF to attempt to get LK banned?

LOL. You can’t let MHG’s SS complaint go, can you? Why does it bother you so much that someone took evidence, 750 pages apparently, of inappropriate or harassing behavior, and sent it in to be examined? An entire criminal trial verified that at least 750 pages, up to 19,000+ pages, exists as proof to LK’s attempts to destroy someone’s life - drive them to insanity even, yet you still believe that the SS complaint, what - shouldn’t have been reported? Ask yourself that, I have no need to go in circles with you. But the obsession regrading the complaint is noted and it, too, is odd.

I hope and expect that SS will take the complaint seriously and do what is necessary to protect the sport from piranhas.

The back and forth of complaints instead of LK leaving and MB evicting her show escalating bad decisions and provocative behavior of both parties. It is not one side or the other. It was a situation either could have solved. He chose a bad solution while in a delusional state.

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

These threads were originally just trying to understand what happened and why and I think still are. I’m not sure how much they still are because of the growing use of the internet to influence events and I wonder about that spilling into court systems.

The relationship between the three is even considered by a Court TV podcast (posted upthread) as central to the start of the discord.

@hut-ho78

Ok. Finally. I agree with you @trubandloki.

She should have left. He should not have shot her. A completely unnecessary tragedy.

@hut-ho78

The back and forth of complaints instead of LK leaving and MB evicting her show escalating bad decisions and provocative behavior of both parties. It is not one side or the other. It was a situation either could have solved. He chose a bad solution while in a delusional state.

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[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

Ok. Finally. I agree with you @trubandloki.

She should have left. He should not have shot her. A completely unnecessary tragedy.

Wow! Wow! WOW!! Kudos to you.

[3PonyFarm]

What is a possible next step in the civil suit? Will there be many hearings to determine what is and isn’t allowed in like in the criminal case?

[Jenerationx]

I agree. Bad decisions by both parties.