Barisone assessment

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@ekat

@CurrentlyHorseless

A) What I remember is that he said he “didn’t want to evict her” but instead wanted to “scare her out”.

He did not say the reason for not going the legal route. Logically, to me, it would because the legal route would have required 30 days. Are you seriously claiming that he filed a 750 page complaint against her with USEF to get her a lifetime ban but “didn’t want an eviction on her record”? Seriously?

My understanding on landlord/tenant law is:

1. Serve notice, preferably in writing, that you are ending the tenancy at the end of 30 days.
2. Wait thirty days.
3. If the person refuses to vacate in 30 days, go to court.

If MB had taken step 1, and she had vacated within 30 days, it would not have gone to step 3, correct?

If he merely provided the legal demand to vacate, and she had left within 30 days, why would there be an “eviction” on her record?

B] Since he hadn’t informed her, as of Aug 3, that he wanted her out, at the point he had no choice but to try to negotiate a departure if he wanted her out quicker than thirty days, if he wanted to proceed legally.

I can cut and paste all the times this has all been answered in this thread alone, especially your point B, if you’d like.

For now, I’m more interested in point A]. If MB had at any time sent her a piece of paper, filed with the court or not, that she was to vacate in 30 days, and then waited 30 days, if she had vacated prior to 30 days, why would there be “an eviction” on her record?

Asked and answered.

As the chain indicates, I was responding to Ekat, not you, KM.

[ekat]

@Knights_Mom

Asked and answered.

She said it right.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider. His statements are almost always borne out by subsequent events, and they fit other known facts. His statements helped me form a coherent understanding of what may have happened. Any poster who fits these criterion I would find credible.

Are you trying to get me to say I know IMs identity? I don’t. Like most people, I have a suspicion based on his insider position and his pro LK stance. So what?

In the post of mine you quoted, though, I was just correcting KM on what IM actually posted.

@CurrentlyHorseless

As the chain indicates, I was responding to Ekat, not you, KM.

@ekat

She said it right.

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[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider. His statements are almost always borne out by subsequent events, and they fit other known facts. His statements helped me form a coherent understanding of what may have happened. Any poster who fits these criterion I would find credible.

Are you trying to get me to say I know IMs identity? I don’t. Like most people, I have a suspicion based on his insider position and his pro LK stance. So what?

In the post of mine you quoted, though, I was just correcting KM on what IM actually posted.

I’m the Pope.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@Knights_Mom

Asked and answered.

She said it right.

Sorry, I still don’t understand how LK “would have an eviction on her record”, if she had left within 30 days of a demand to vacate. But I’m more than happy to be left in ignorance.

[Warmblood1]

@ekat

As far as the civil trial goes, I have no idea, but I strongly suspect it’s not going to hinge on when a 30 day notice was sent.

I don’t think so either, not at all. All of these back and forth arguments have done is prove to me that MB has a strong civil case.

[DownYonder]

@CurrentlyHorseless

s there disagreement as to the fact that MHG wanted LK off the property? At least since April? To me what matters is that there was pressure from MHG on MB to get LK out of there, and I don’t think it matters as to the exact reason or reasons. Maybe it was personal dislike. Maybe she resented MBs attention directed to LK. Maybe she just wanted the farmhouse vacated.

I dunno, maybe she didn’t want her kids around lying, drug-addict grifters.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sorry, I still don’t understand how LK “would have an eviction on her record”, if she had left within 30 days of a demand to vacate. But I’m more than happy to be left in ignorance.

@ekat

As far as the civil trial goes, I have no idea, but I strongly suspect it’s not going to hinge on when a 30 day notice was sent.

I do hope the lawyers clearly cover how eviction works though, because it is clear here that there are people in the world who do not understand that step one of getting someone to leave is not simply filing an eviction.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider.

An insider that wouldn’t actually claim an identity that could be independent verified as connected to the case, unlike LK and Seeker.

How convenient for this “insider”.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sigh. Yes, IM said that MHG resented the attention MB was devoting to LK. He did not say that LK was jealous of MHG

Why do you continue to take IM’s word as truth when you don’t even know the identity of the poster? How can you know if someone is credible if you don’t even know their identity?

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider. His statements are almost always borne out by subsequent events, and they fit other known facts. His statements helped me form a coherent understanding of what may have happened. Any poster who fits these criterion I would find credible.

Are you trying to get me to say I know IMs identity? I don’t. Like most people, I have a suspicion based on his insider position and his pro LK stance. So what?

In the post of mine you quoted, though, I was just correcting KM on what IM actually posted.

Yet, most of what “they” said as truth turned out to be not so much. Where were all the bombshells IM promised. Honestly your loyalty is honorable but you sure are naive.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

s there disagreement as to the fact that MHG wanted LK off the property? At least since April? To me what matters is that there was pressure from MHG on MB to get LK out of there, and I don’t think it matters as to the exact reason or reasons. Maybe it was personal dislike. Maybe she resented MBs attention directed to LK. Maybe she just wanted the farmhouse vacated.

I dunno, maybe she didn’t want her kids around lying, drug-addict grifters.

Exactly. It’s obvious that MHG probably had numerous reasons for her intense animosity for LK and understandable that she wanted LK gone.

The only headscratcher is why MB had not asked LK to leave as of Aug3, per MHGs own testimony.

The exact reasons that MHG wanted her gone is not important, and there were probably multiple reasons.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless

Sigh. Yes, IM said that MHG resented the attention MB was devoting to LK. He did not say that LK was jealous of MHG

Why do you continue to take IM’s word as truth when you don’t even know the identity of the poster? How can you know if someone is credible if you don’t even know their identity?

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider. His statements are almost always borne out by subsequent events, and they fit other known facts. His statements helped me form a coherent understanding of what may have happened. Any poster who fits these criterion I would find credible.

Are you trying to get me to say I know IMs identity? I don’t. Like most people, I have a suspicion based on his insider position and his pro LK stance. So what?

In the post of mine you quoted, though, I was just correcting KM on what IM actually posted.

Too bad your corrections are wrong and don’t address the manifesto.

[eggbutt]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider.

An insider that wouldn’t actually claim an identity that could be independent verified as connected to the case, unlike LK and Seeker.

How convenient for this “insider”.

Yes, I’ve been called an insider too many times to count but she doesn’t believe me and I’ve been proven correct repeatedly! Woe is me “I don’t get no respect” - JJ

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@ekat

@Knights_Mom

Asked and answered.

She said it right.

Sorry, I still don’t understand how LK “would have an eviction on her record”, if she had left within 30 days of a demand to vacate. But I’m more than happy to be left in ignorance.

Asked and answered.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

s there disagreement as to the fact that MHG wanted LK off the property? At least since April? To me what matters is that there was pressure from MHG on MB to get LK out of there, and I don’t think it matters as to the exact reason or reasons. Maybe it was personal dislike. Maybe she resented MBs attention directed to LK. Maybe she just wanted the farmhouse vacated.

I dunno, maybe she didn’t want her kids around lying, drug-addict grifters.

Exactly. It’s obvious that MHG probably had numerous reasons for her intense animosity for LK and understandable that she wanted LK gone.

The only headscratcher is why MB had not asked LK to leave as of Aug3, per MHGs own testimony.

The exact reasons that MHG wanted her gone is not important, and there were probably multiple reasons.

Asked and answered.

[DownYonder]

@BrendaJane

I have reoccuring nightmares of being late everywhere.
at the same time, being notoriously early, I have nightmares that I might have missed a change of venue/date/time.
Sure one is late now and then, but not when you have to walk across the compound to get there!

LOL, my father was a military officer for 24 years. His mantra was “You are either early, or you are late.”

He once chided me on the front porch of Cracker Barrel for being two minutes late when meeting him for breakfast. There were other people there - strangers, mostly older folks - and some of the men were wearing ball caps indicating they were also military veterans. They all got a good chuckle out of it.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider.

An insider that wouldn’t actually claim an identity that could be independent verified as connected to the case, unlike LK and Seeker.

How convenient for this “insider”.

Volunteering one’s IRL identity, as LK and Seeker did, is not a requirement for posting here. The basis for my finding IM credible is not based on his identity.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

s there disagreement as to the fact that MHG wanted LK off the property? At least since April? To me what matters is that there was pressure from MHG on MB to get LK out of there, and I don’t think it matters as to the exact reason or reasons. Maybe it was personal dislike. Maybe she resented MBs attention directed to LK. Maybe she just wanted the farmhouse vacated.

I dunno, maybe she didn’t want her kids around lying, drug-addict grifters.

Exactly. It’s obvious that MHG probably had numerous reasons for her intense animosity for LK and understandable that she wanted LK gone.

The only headscratcher is why MB had not asked LK to leave as of Aug3, per MHGs own testimony.

The exact reasons that MHG wanted her gone is not important, and there were probably multiple reasons.

Asked and answered.

Oh, OK. My bad for not understanding that you were taking over the “important task” of QFPing my every post.

Sorry to be slow on the uptake.

[ekat]

I’m going to put this out here, again, to provide some clarity.

Remember, Mr T and JK thought they had an agreement for LK to move on Friday, Aug 2nd.

I linked MHG’s testimony earlier in the thread.

2:56:44

Mr S: …text message from you to Michael Barisone on August 3rd 2019?

MHG: yes

Mr S: and did you ask him, “why can we not say to Lauren and Rob and the father because still no one actually has we are evicting you, you must leave no one has said it.”

MHG: that’s correct

Mr S: and is his response to you on line 9365 “Monday morning”

Now, we can keep saying that no one had ever told her to leave by Aug 3rd, when that text was written, OR, we can assume MHG meant exactly what she said - specific to the term “evicting you”.

MB’s response is so relevant, as Mr T did send the notice by email on Monday, Aug 5th.

[Warmblood1]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ve answered this before. He has admitted to being an insider. His statements are almost always borne out by subsequent events, and they fit other known facts. His statements helped me form a coherent understanding of what may have happened. Any poster who fits these criterion I would find credible.

Are you trying to get me to say I know IMs identity? I don’t. Like most people, I have a suspicion based on his insider position and his pro LK stance. So what?

In the post of mine you quoted, though, I was just correcting KM on what IM actually posted.

The same could be said for many posters here. Yet you cling to IM’s every word. Just IM’s. And without knowing their identity or credibility?

Strange.