Barisone assessment

[trubandloki]

@ekat

The ADA,

The funny thing about acronyms, I see this and this about handicapped accessibility, you think district attorney.

@CurrentlyHorseless

So why did you bring up your accusing me of having “conspiracy theories” again, today, if the mods had deleted the your previous post on the issue, having decided it was inappropriate? In what sense are you “deferring to their decision” if you keep bringing it up?

I don’t want to bother other posters or the mods with posting the PM conversation, and will only do so if you or someone else brings it up again . Please let me know if I have your permission to post the short PM conversation. Please don’t continue with your accusations, unless you are willing to permit me to respond by providing what I actually wrote.

@CurrentlyHorseless

How would you know if there is a coordinated attack against me?

@CurrentlyHorseless

Just my interpretation, smoofox. I acknowledge others have different interpretations.

Are you a moderator? I assume the moderator can read PMs if they feel they need to.

But on what basis would you be able to assure yourself, or me, that there is no PMing going on to coordinate the “approach” to other posters? Perhaps not a “vast gang”. Perhaps just a couple.

How would you know that has not happened, unless you have access to everyone’s PM account? Do you have access to mine?

@Sparky

Not really. That’s why God made horse trailers.

I am always impressed at the creative things God came up with!

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ll make sure in future I always use the /s even with sarcasm that should be obvious, Km.

@CurrentlyHorseless

You mean if the mods gave me access to the pm accounts of all users? I’m confident they would not breach confidentiality like that, but, yes, that is what would be necessary to prove the negative that @smoofox so blithely asserted.

Those negatives are so darn hard to establish! Why bother!

I don’t need it proved of disproved. Everyone is free to interpret KMs post as they wish.

@CurrentlyHorseless

LMAOTOTFL

[BrendaJane]

I would be guessing that anybody remotely in the circuit has followed the trial, either near or far.
I would also be surprised if the gossip has not long since spread to Ocala. Along the trade routes, if you will.
Too bad some bridges might already be smoldering in NC, perhaps Idaho…I am not seeing a lot of options for her.
Perhaps Halter horses? But you have to have really deep pockets to hang with the big dogs (or have access to the township coffers?)

[trubandloki]

< bows head in shame >

I did it. I admit it. I am that horrible person.

I sent a PM today.

< gasp >

I just wanted to tell someone that I really liked their post.
But, I suppose if you twist your head sideways and squint you can turn that into me coordinating with that poster about things.

[ekat]

@Angela_Freda

Is this why JK didn’t, in the end, testifying?

I’ve always thought he would have been a better defense witness. He really didn’t have anything to offer the prosecution. He didn’t witness whatever happened that day, that we know of. He didn’t establish anything for the State that LK and RG couldn’t.

But he certainly could have provided context for MB’s state of mind.

However, in light of the accusations that Mr T (and ED) lied under oath about negotiations to get her to leave, the State certainly could have called him to rebut that. For anyone who says it wasn’t pertinent, I would submit that her refusal to leave, even when PopPop is negotiating an exit was crucial to MB’s state of mind.

[ekat]

@trubandloki

The funny thing about acronyms, I see this and this about handicapped accessibility, you think district attorney.

Lol, sorry!

[Angela_Freda]

Someone mentioned something about the grain fed to LKs horses being… Increased? Doubled?
And some kerfuffle about that.

I took it as LK was accusing the barn/staff of overfeeding her horses.
But what if actually she was setting it up to accuse them of having been underfeeding her horses up until those feed amounts were increased?

[BrendaJane]

makes my head spin…
hoping for founder, or being bucked off?
or the trainer being bucked off?

grounds for another round of insanity?

[ekat]

@Angela_Freda

Someone mentioned something about the grain fed to LKs horses being… Increased? Doubled?
And some kerfuffle about that.

I took it as LK was accusing the barn/staff of overfeeding her horses.
But what if actually she was setting it up to accuse them of having been underfeeding her horses up until those feed amounts were increased?

It’s in the (only Mr Bilinkas calls it a) manifesto!

Anything is apparently possible for someone who would write that out.

[Ghazzu]

@Angela_Freda

Doesn’t it make you wonder, in light of the crap evidence collection of the PD, why the DA took this…

Not really.
You had a woman with 2 bullet wounds.
As unsympathetic a victim as she is, she was shot.
I’m sure the DA spent a lot of time muttering under his breath about numerous aspects of the case, though.

[Maria]

How dare you!

s://

[BrendaJane]

judging by his facial expression not enough though.

[trubandloki]

@BrendaJane

judging by his facial expression not enough though.

That was my thought every time I saw him during the trial. He looked like he was thinking - darn it, what did I get myself into.

[eggbutt]

@Angela_Freda

Is this why JK didn’t, in the end, testifying?

My thoughts only (I have not PM’d anyone for input) is JK was on the defense witness list, I think. Taylor limited all testimony to what MB may have personally known prior to the shooting only. With that in mind the scope of JK’s testimony would have been restricted. We saw objections and sidebars anytime Bilinkas tried to move into areas MB may not have known. Simply a guess on my part.

[Warmblood1]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Remember when RG and LK testified under oath during the criminal trial that they only recorded public conversations that:

1. Were happening right outside LKs locker in an open common space, and captured on the recording device they placed inside her locker
2. Were happening in public spaces near RG as he was walking around the farm with a recording device in his pocket, which was turned on and capturing these conversations?

Which makes me realize that if true, and the recordings were from RG being there directly, or right outside of LK’s locker, then MB was VERY open and forward about wanting LK gone. That these were likely not private conversations if recorded in that way. So the idea that LK didn’t know she wasn’t wanted is even more preposterous.

I fully expect, however, that the recordings were illegally obtained.

And if MB were truly plotting LK’s murder via these devices, I can’t imagine a more profound way of saying “I want LK gone” than that.

[eggbutt]

@Warmblood1

And if MB were truly plotting LK’s murder via these devices, I can’t imagine a more profound way of saying “I want LK gone” than that.

And if he had been plotting murder with shovels or whatever, why weren’t those tapes taken to the DA immediately, assuming Barney Fife didn’t feel the need to know more?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@eggbutt

@Angela_Freda

Is this why JK didn’t, in the end, testifying?

My thoughts only (I have not PM’d anyone for input) is JK was on the defense witness list, I think. Taylor limited all testimony to what MB may have personally known prior to the shooting only. With that in mind the scope of JK’s testimony would have been restricted. We saw objections and sidebars anytime Bilinkas tried to move into areas MB may not have known . Simply a guess on my part.

Remember back when Bilinkas was cross examining LK, and asked where her father got the money from that funded her riding, and she replied “the bank?”

I seem to recollect Judge Taylor directing Bilinkas to move along with his questions at that point. Taylor sounded exasperated with the whole trial. He sounded that way much of the time.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BrendaJane

never mind that the core of the Cabal has hidden profiles, you can’t just send them a PM…

Having a hidden profile does not prevent someone sending a PM. If the intended recipient has the sender on ignore or mute, the intended recipient with not see it, I believe.

[StB.YM]

@eggbutt

My thoughts only (I have not PM’d anyone for input) is JK was on the defense witness list, I think. Taylor limited all testimony to what MB may have personally known prior to the shooting only. With that in mind the scope of JK’s testimony would have been restricted. We saw objections and sidebars anytime Bilinkas tried to move into areas MB may not have known . Simply a guess on my part.

Yes, if I recall correctly Bilinkas asked that JK be excluded from the room during LK and RG’s testimony, because he might be called as a witness, but there was some back and forth about this and I don’t recall what was decided.

[Knights_Mom]

@2tempe

Not sure I would say Florida as a whole. Ocala, with the new WEC, is pulling people away from Wellington. It started with the H/J people and now that WEC has resolved issues with USEF for CDI’s the dressage world is seeing top competitors planning more trips to Ocala as well. Real estate prices in that area are up significantly. There is much to be said for climate controlled indoor arenas, lol.

Edited to add - eggbutt, you posted again while I was typing! I do suspect LK’s reputation would find its way up this direction…

Wellington surroundings have a lot of poverty and crime while I didn’t see that in Ocala. Not West Palm or Wellington proper but around.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@ekat

The ADA,

The funny thing about acronyms, I see this and this about handicapped accessibility, you think district attorney.

@CurrentlyHorseless

So why did you bring up your accusing me of having “conspiracy theories” again, today, if the mods had deleted the your previous post on the issue, having decided it was inappropriate? In what sense are you “deferring to their decision” if you keep bringing it up?

I don’t want to bother other posters or the mods with posting the PM conversation, and will only do so if you or someone else brings it up again . Please let me know if I have your permission to post the short PM conversation. Please don’t continue with your accusations, unless you are willing to permit me to respond by providing what I actually wrote.

@CurrentlyHorseless

How would you know if there is a coordinated attack against me?

@CurrentlyHorseless

Just my interpretation, smoofox. I acknowledge others have different interpretations.

Are you a moderator? I assume the moderator can read PMs if they feel they need to.

But on what basis would you be able to assure yourself, or me, that there is no PMing going on to coordinate the “approach” to other posters? Perhaps not a “vast gang”. Perhaps just a couple.

How would you know that has not happened, unless you have access to everyone’s PM account? Do you have access to mine?

@Sparky

Not really. That’s why God made horse trailers.

I am always impressed at the creative things God came up with!

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’ll make sure in future I always use the /s even with sarcasm that should be obvious, Km.

@CurrentlyHorseless

You mean if the mods gave me access to the pm accounts of all users? I’m confident they would not breach confidentiality like that, but, yes, that is what would be necessary to prove the negative that @smoofox so blithely asserted.

Those negatives are so darn hard to establish! Why bother!

I don’t need it proved of disproved. Everyone is free to interpret KMs post as they wish.

@CurrentlyHorseless

LMAOTOTFL

I did not see any response addressed to me, @trubandloki.

What is your comment in response to the posts of mine?