If you’re reading on a phone it is a right PITA, just annoying on a computer. Seriously, select the response you (g) want to reply to, the rest won’t disappear, it will be attached to your response, just not visible unless you click on the little arrow on the top right corner.
So tired of obtuse people today. I really need to drop my part time job.
That would be easy. 20m circles would be a problem unless you lived in Buckingham Palace!
The latter
Don’t throw us away.
You all are not a part time job! The local idiots at the gas station are the problem. 95% are great, it’s the 5% that make you want to jump over the counter. 
And don’t get me started on the current management. I’m on my third owner at this location, and they are the worst. 
Thankfully my full time job is dandy and allows me time to hang out on COTH between flurries of emails.
I think the “Finish the Bastard” phrase is really ruffling the K-Klan’s feathers. Now we see “ruin her universe” making its debut but it just doesn’t hit quite the same. It feels unsubstantiated and forgotten. Desperate times, it seems.
I also think Mama and Papa rider are financially invested in this upcoming civil trial - well, to put it blatantly, how else is LK paying for it all? But not just that, the family’s reputation is on the line. Imagine building an entire law career just to be undone by your own daughter.
And @CurrentlyHorseless, your logic is continuously but reliably flawed. You still continue to believe that MB proceeded with eviction the way he did because he desperately needing LK’s 5k a month. That accounted for 10 percent of his facility’s operating expenses, per testimony under oath. If she had contributed 25 percent, 30 percent, etc., I can see some validity to this argument. However, MB could have made MORE money on consignment/sales, training or board from other clients than he did with LK. He gave her a very fair deal, she took total advantage of it, he paid the price.
So if it took the whole year for the depositions, until August 2023, when would the case actually be likely to land in a courtroom? If that’s what happens with it?
My best guess? Early 2024. However, I imagine there will be another status conference in early Jan 2023 to see where they are at, and things could get moved up.
Wow. That sounds like it’s a very long time to wait.
Quoting this because it needs to be repeated again and again!
Excellent post @Warmblood1!!!
Yes. It’s one of the reasons I often think civil suits are not in the best interest of anyone.
This case particularly gets screwed. It had to wait until after the criminal trial, which is normal. But then COVID hit, delaying the criminal trial for dang near 3 years.
“Proceeded with the eviction the way he did”?
My main point is that he did not give her a demand to vacate until the day before he shot her, and that he could easily have “mitigated his damages”, that is, avoided the harassment by LK, if he had served a demand to vacate on May 1, June 1, July 1, etc. He didn’t.
If he could have made more money on “consignment/sales, training or board from other clients”, that’s all the more reason to end the business arrangement with LK at some earlier point with 30 days notice, like a sane person would have done. He didn’t.
My saying he declined to demand she vacate earlier, months earlier, because he wanted the $5,000 per month is just my best guess.
I don’t really care what you want to fill in the blanks with as to why he failed to demand she vacate months earlier. Whatever reason there was as to why he failed to demand she vacate earlier, the fact is that he did not serve a demand to vacate until the day before he shot her. I think LKs civil lawyers will make much of that fact.
“$5,000 a month toward your expenses is better than zero dollars a month against your expenses” is my logic.
Regarding homestead exemption: In Florida if the property is your PRIMARY or permanent home, you are entitled to a reduction in property taxes. In order to qualify you must live there 183 days/year. It matters not whether you have a mortgage. So the question arises whether the exemption for MB’s farm (if he was there 183 days/year prior to arrest) is actually still in place given that he has been jailed for so long. Likely but not certain.
A homesteaded property in Florida is also exempt from most judgements.
Does anyone know how that works regarding maintaining a legal residence when someone is in jail or prison? Obviously the person is not physically on the property, but not by choice.
Interesting thoughts except you have forgotten the statements here and elsewhere by Kanarek members that the relationship had soured months before, Jonathan was aware and had been involved in negotiations to get her to leave, there apparently were quite a few text chains between LK, RG, and JK all discussing the need to leave and her refusal to do so, discussion with attorneys to have her vacate, and repeated threats made to Barisone and his girlfriend.
The civil case will make a great deal of her orchestrated plan to destroy MB, his relationship with his girl friend, and his business; drug use on his property by LK/RG, illegal surveillance installed on his private property, untruthful testimony from the criminal trial, and her SM posts of the fear she felt for her life. Any normal, rational person would have left without the requirement of being told! Instead a plan was hatched to call building inspectors, fire inspectors, and concoct a dialog with SS to contact CPS. WHO DOES THAT? And don’t forget the now familiar “Finish the Bastard”! Tack on the testimony of those who have been attacked and threatened by LK over the years and it seems clear what a civil verdict might result in. Keep in mind much more will be allowed in during a civil trial. LK’s past behavior and pattern of threatening others will be front and center.
Add to all the above the huge number of posts by LK on YT chats that don’t paint her in a positive light. Of course she can once again say she lies on SM, but a jury may say enough is enough and determine her lies have hurt Barisone’s future business. The mention of giving 48 Hours the illegal tapes etc, as well as the entire 48 Hour segment and any other outlets will be used against LK.
As is typical of the US, depends on the state, but most states consider your residence what it was before incarceration - a prison cell does not make a residence. And, as is also typical, because of gerrymandering and census issues, some states are battling about this because counting inmates helps/hurts them. FL is one of those states, but it appears that currently they follow the prison isn’t residence model, for now.
Edit to add a link: this site has good info:
And in the meantime, before the civil proceedings, 48 Hours can air their show about the criminal case?
That doesn’t effect the potential jurors?
Would these be considered in the civil trial, especially the bold?
Just a note that in my state, a party who is on the deed can borrow against that property equally as if they were sole owner.
I found out about that when I was asked to assist a husband who had discovered that his wife had repeatedly taken and maxed out equity loans on their primary home such that even after owning it for 40 years they owed nearly as much as it was worth. That one surprised even me.
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