Barisone assessment

[ekat]

@Mersidoats

Question about forcibly moving someone’s horses - could that be horse theft? Do you have to have a reason for removing a boarders horses, “tying them to the mailbox” so to speak?

Here’s NJ’s law on the subject. I could be wrong but it appears the barn owner has a good bit of leeway.

https://www.animallaw.info/statute/nj-lien-horse-stable-2a44-51-right-lien-retention-property-when-amount-due-unpaid

[BigMama1]

@SillyHorse

It suddenly occurred to me that the few posters who continually justify LK’s actions and defend her are not necessarily admirers of LK, but rather are haters of MB.

Yes / no / maybe?

Not all of them. At least one seems to be an ardent fan of LK and a hater of MHG more than MB. I don’t get the sense that any of them hate MB, just that they view events through a lens which filters out any responsibility LK has for her role in the situation.

[ekat]

Lol, I just posted the law. What are your thoughts? Seems to me the barn owner has some rights there.

https://www.animallaw.info/statute/nj-lien-horse-stable-2a44-51-right-lien-retention-property-when-amount-due-unpaid

[Knights_Mom]

But if no board is due? Basically a horsey Holdover

[Sdel]

Would explain the claims they wanted her horses…

[ekat]

Let me keep digging. But, remember, one could presume in this case, that board was due, since RG only worked enough to break even on the board, and he testified he’d quit working, cuz, reasons…

Edit to add: NJ law also specifies other services due, like veterinary, farriers, etc.

[cutter99]

There is more hate for MHG than anyone could have ever guessed. I would say the jealousy of MHG runs very, VERY deep!

[BigMama1]

@eggbutt

So, THIS is the reason I said many deleted/edited by the mod posts are due to ganged up flagging. Don’t try to get me to believe there wasn’t a private message group at one time coordinating posts to flag, attack, or how to respond. To most of us these threads have not been a game to win but speaking truth to a despicable situation.

Why would anyone want to coordinate posts or how to respond? Who has time for that and for what purpose? What a bizarre scenario.

[Warmblood1]

So I wonder if the big bombshell then was the shovel in the truck?

[Seeker1]

You keep attacking my family. You stop i stop.

[Sdel]

On YT she says even she didn’t know about the shovel until closing arguments. She has always wondered what the plan to dispose of their bodies was….

Complete 180……

[Warmblood1]

Also, if the recordings had proven anything they would have been admitted into the criminal trial and things would have gone far differently.

“I could kill her” or “”I want to strangle her” is a figure of speech and does not prove a murder plot either.

LK is an Olympic level straw grasper IMO.

[cutter99]

@Warmblood1

So I wonder if the big bombshell then was the shovel in the truck?

Then there is a big bombshell in my truck, along with a crow bar and tire iron.

Hmmmm, does this mean I need to have a victim already lined up, or am I just prepared?

[Sdel]

@cutter99

@Warmblood1

So I wonder if the big bombshell then was the shovel in the truck?

Then there is a big bombshell in my truck, along with a crow bar and tire iron.

Hmmmm, does this mean I need to have a victim already lined up, or am I just prepared?

I admit, it was hard to resist snarking the “What do you have in your truck” thread…

[eggbutt]

@BigMama1

@eggbutt

So, THIS is the reason I said many deleted/edited by the mod posts are due to ganged up flagging. Don’t try to get me to believe there wasn’t a private message group at one time coordinating posts to flag, attack, or how to respond. To most of us these threads have not been a game to win but speaking truth to a despicable situation.

Why would anyone want to coordinate posts or how to respond? Who has time for that and for what purpose? What a bizarre scenario.

Yeah, super crazy. It became rather obvious at one time as though there were some behind the scenes discussions like sharks circling and planning an attack. It has apparently stopped the organized direction since LK is supposedly gone from the forum.

[Warmblood1]

You guys bring up good points. I’ve had a parking citation and I have deadly tools of mass murder in my truck so I can’t be trusted.

[eggbutt]

Attacking your family? Really? All I’ve done is point out your daughter’s behavior - notice the YouTube screen shots. That’s not attacking your family.

So, what you’re saying, apparently, is if I stop posting you will stop posting. Right?

[cutter99]

See, and with a name like @Warmblood1 you are probably warming up blood and drinking it for meals. Just like I cut and slash things!

[Knights_Mom]

Yeah but if it were due on one horse can you evict all of her horses?

My rough side says tie them to the telephone pole but I and probably not MB could morally do that. But I’m guessing that would not be illegal.

[BigMama1]

@Seeker1

Micheals injuries were nothing compared to laurens. Stop it…just stop

On this point (and this alone) I’m going to agree with @Seeker1. While Michaels mental and physical injuries are very, very serious, I don’t think they can be equated with being shot twice in the chest, and the subsequent major surgeries to repair the damage.

However, this is not a contest about who suffered more. It’s a discussion of who is responsible and quite possibly legally liable.

We know Michael’s physical injuries and mental break were caused directly by Lauren and Rob (and poor Rosie).

Most of us don’t believe the shoddy police investigation and the evidence produced provides enough evidence to conclude that Michael shot the gun which caused Lauren’s injuries. The jury believed he shot the gun, but that he wasn’t legally responsible for his actions if he did shoot her.

Who was responsible for the state of affairs which led up to the shooting? Again all the evidence available shows Lauren and Rob were the primary instigators and that Michael was just reacting. Furthermore it was 100% within their power to resolve the situation by simply leaving. Michael had no such option. He had a home, family, clients, and horses to protect from a clear and present threat. He was effectively trapped with no way out.