I was asking a legal question to an attorney. Paranoid much?
eggbutt: ohnoO:Has she really quit riding, as someone way, way up thread said?
The horses don’t care as long as there is turnout, but one can ride without a trainer session ya’know.
If she loved it that much and is now not riding, I think that speaks volumes to loving the lifestyle, not the rides. I think that is sad .
I don’t think anyone has any idea what she’s doing other than posting on YouTube chats and reliving the trial. That said, I don’t know anyone who is actively trying to figure out what she’s doing either.
Except when you are telling us all the latest you heard from your so called sources. @eggbutt has said that she heard LK is not longer riding and the substitute trainer while the main trainer was out of country recently quit.
I think it’s funny you don’t think the entire Florida and other dressage communities haven’t mentioned her because EVERYONE is asking questions making sure LK won’t be anywhere near them. People are talking not because they like her or want to be her. Keeping aware of where LK is is like paying attention to the latest Covid hot spot. You want to make sure you aren’t there.
eggbutt:A refresher regarding flagging from the moderator (from one of the Tech Support threads) -
So, THIS is the reason I said many deleted/edited by the mod posts are due to ganged up flagging. Don’t try to get me to believe there wasn’t a private message group at one time coordinating posts to flag, attack, or how to respond. To most of us these threads have not been a game to win but speaking truth to a despicable situation.
LOL. Are there enough of us in the minority to constitute a gang?
But you’re wrong. I have never attempted to coordinate the flagging of posts with the tiny number of like minded posters that remain. I flag the posts that I, individually, think violate the forum rules, and coordinate with nobody.
My question on the technical forum was asking whether a poster with a flagged post was notified as to who flagged it. No one answered my question, so I’m back to assuming that the identity of the flagger is not conveyed to the poster, although obviously the mods would have that information.
Hi @CurrentlyHorseless!
When I called out behavior by calling it “junior high” I had two posts flagged. I have no idea who flagged them and only know because the mods private message me they were flagged and deleted. When someone objected to a word on an earlier post, I also received a private message from the mods that the word had been edited. I think they may have left a message in the post for the edit as well.
Earlier today, I flagged a post calling posters juvenile as it seems to be against the “junior high” rule. I’m curious to see if that one survives or if it has to have multiple flags.
I started flagging posts I find excessively cruel instead of descending into bickering and getting threads shut down for the bickering. Sometimes the mods seem to agree and delete them.
BigMama1:She was definitely riding regularly this winter. Have no idea if she’s riding now but can’t imagine why she wouldn’t be.
Because after the trial, whomever she was with decided she was an untrustworthy (being polite there) individual and no longer wanted to be associated with her?
And you know this how? Oh wait. It’s just another mean post.
Fiesta01: BigMama1:She was definitely riding regularly this winter. Have no idea if she’s riding now but can’t imagine why she wouldn’t be.
Because after the trial, whomever she was with decided she was an untrustworthy (being polite there) individual and no longer wanted to be associated with her?
Not to mention the veiled suggestions in other threads that she was recording at the current barn. And the current barn is connected with Ali Brock. Awkward….
My guess is that Ali Brock helped get her relocated to that barn.
Fiesta01: BigMama1:She was definitely riding regularly this winter. Have no idea if she’s riding now but can’t imagine why she wouldn’t be.
Because after the trial, whomever she was with decided she was an untrustworthy (being polite there) individual and no longer wanted to be associated with her?
And you know this how? Oh wait. It’s just another mean post.
Again, people talk.
FYI you probably wouldn’t like what they are saying either.
Seeker1:Making sense is often not all its cracked up to be. You are the perfect example of that eggbutt.
Uh-huh…seems the trial/verdict proved me right on almost everything I’ve said from the beginning, that MB would be found NG. I predict he will also prevail in the civil trials with the wealth of information he has that can be admitted that was carefully omitted from the criminal trial thanks to your “dear Judge Taylor”. So, yeah, you keep on thinking I’m clueless. At least I do know how to respond to posts and send PM’s - most of the time.
Interesting that few others have any problem at all understanding my meaning.
NGRI
Yeah, the neener-neener replies are getting a little old.
Been old for a long time.
You all are obsessed with this flagging stuff
Normally I don’t interact with certain individuals on these threads, but sometimes I get sucked in. So I need to exercise some self control and exit. I don’t know if some of these posts come from a place of ignorance, being naive, misunderstanding, or putting blinders on and purposely ignoring some details. Nothing wrong with some of that, we’re all guilty of that at some points. It’s just crazy the conclusions that are drawn or and the stretch Armstrong stuff. But yeah, still debate what happened at the trial and what a verdict means no matter how many times people try to explain it or provide links explaining it. I’ve never seen some people so out of touch with reality. It’s both alarming and fascinating at the same time.
Ulf Moller did go back overseas when the season ended here. Lars Petersen has been made permanent manager of Helgstrand US. I don’t know if Ulf plans to return to the US in the fall and, if he does will he agree to train LK again. If she isn’t riding now and keeping her horses in shape (I have no earthly idea what she is doing) I would think he would decline spending any time working with her. That is purely my speculation.
Perhaps he is a professional and concerned with the reputation of the sport and saddened over MB’s breakdown and LK being shot twice. Perhaps they are just good and decent people trying to help make a very sad situation better.
CurrentlyHorseless:My question on the technical forum was asking whether a poster with a flagged post was notified as to who flagged it. No one answered my question, so I’m back to assuming that the identity of the flagger is not conveyed to the poster, although obviously the mods would have that information.
This is another tactic that confuses me. Why post a question on a forum that you want the moderators to answer? Why not simply PM the mods and ask the question? You aren’t the only one I’ve seen do this and usually there isn’t a response from the moderators.
Why do you continuously appoint yourself the COTH posting etiquette police? It’s hilarious.
MHM: Sdel: Fiesta01: BigMama1:She was definitely riding regularly this winter. Have no idea if she’s riding now but can’t imagine why she wouldn’t be.
Because after the trial, whomever she was with decided she was an untrustworthy (being polite there) individual and no longer wanted to be associated with her?
Not to mention the veiled suggestions in other threads that she was recording at the current barn. And the current barn is connected with Ali Brock. Awkward….
But the trainers who were helping LK were not actually connected to the barn where her horses were living in Loxahatchee over the winter, correct? Didn’t those trainers come in from outside to work with her? That was my impression, anyway.
Yes, but she made veiled references to having two Olympic medalist coming in to train her. I assume that one of those was intended to assumed to be Ali Brock, even though no one ever actually made that a direct connection (and Ali was technically the barn owner’s trainer). Only one poster ever tried to make the suggestion, way after the fact, that Ali helped LK get into the barn, despite the fact that LK had practically accused Ali of fraud and Ali was obviously very distraught during her testimony about how LK had destroyed MB. In fact, maybe Ali actually refused to have anything to do with LK and that is the reason for the fraud allegations.
Ali seemed heartbroken over MB’s breakdown and the entire situation. I posted and just did again that I would not be surprised if she helped LK relocate her horses to Ulf’s barn in Florida. Ali seems to be a professional who believes in the good of the sport and would hate all the bad press and tawdry bickering.
So. Clueless.
hut-ho78: eggbutt:A refresher regarding flagging from the moderator (from one of the Tech Support threads) -
So, THIS is the reason I said many deleted/edited by the mod posts are due to ganged up flagging. Don’t try to get me to believe there wasn’t a private message group at one time coordinating posts to flag, attack, or how to respond. To most of us these threads have not been a game to win but speaking truth to a despicable situation.
It sure looks like y’all are really good at flagging considering the banned posters.
The moderators addressed recent posters being banned and the reasons given didn’t mention frequent flagging. It is much easier to simply ignore a poster than bother the moderators with frequent flags. Most of the posters I am familiar with don’t have such an extremely high need to control others, especially on anonymous forums.
Oh my gosh, this from the person who incessantly posts instructions to other posters on how to post, when to post, when not to post.
hut-ho78: Warmblood1:Also, if the recordings had proven anything they would have been admitted into the criminal trial and things would have gone far differently.
“I could kill her” or “”I want to strangle her” is a figure of speech and does not prove a murder plot either.
LK is an Olympic level straw grasper IMO.
What was testified to was “get rid of her” by MHG and she clarified it was for LK to move out. “Get rid of her” after one is shot twice in the chest and nearly died could certainly take on a more sinister tone subsequent to the shooting even if meant innocently.
“Get Rid of her” is far far far more likely to mean have her get out of the barn than to imply a plot. To assume it means a plot to kill says far more about the person making that bizarrely wild assumption than to the reality all readers here have come to realize.
Yes of course until he did shoot her twice. NGRI. Proven in court.
Indeed. Finish the Bastard seems far more serious than Get Rid of Her. Of course I also think a shovel in the bed of a farm truck is perfectly normal as is expecting to be able to conduct one’s business as they chose without concern of illegal surveillance devices, barefooted, veiled ninjas prowling the property at night or having CPS appear at my door due to a bogus report, but dang, what do I know?
It would except his subsequent action of shooting her twice. NGRI. Proven in court.
hut-ho78:Nonsense. You know who gets the threads closed down. Those who attack others personally, those who try to guess who others are, name callers, etc. it has never been @CurrentlyHorseless.
Mkay. We will agree to disagree. It would seem that posters that nasty would also be banned. But again, what do I know?
It was LK herself who delighted in going back many, many, many years to learn my identity and out me, or maybe it was a friend with a smash phone sending her that valuable screen shot. Fascinating, isn’t it?
You voluntarily outed yourself on your own post. LK would have been banned for outing you just as YD was banned for outing someone in a private message. This one is yours.
Knights_Mom: hut-ho78: Warmblood1:Also, if the recordings had proven anything they would have been admitted into the criminal trial and things would have gone far differently.
“I could kill her” or “”I want to strangle her” is a figure of speech and does not prove a murder plot either.
LK is an Olympic level straw grasper IMO.
What was testified to was “get rid of her” by MHG and she clarified it was for LK to move out. “Get rid of her” after one is shot twice in the chest and nearly died could certainly take on a more sinister tone subsequent to the shooting even if meant innocently.
“Get Rid of her” is far far far more likely to mean have her get out of the barn than to imply a plot. To assume it means a plot to kill says far more about the person making that bizarrely wild assumption than to the reality all readers here have come to realize.
Yes of course until he did shoot her twice. NGRI. Proven in court.
Doesn’t work like that. You can’t assign a meaning to words if they don’t mean it.
Finish the bastard is clear and concise. It’s a command given by one to the other seeking a result of harm to another.
One exception is if “the bastard” is a piece of furniture and you’re holding a cloth and a can of wood stain.
hut-ho78: eggbutt:It is fascinating the only one apparently concerned enough to stop posting is @Inigo-montoya, whoever they are. Smart cookie.
Why do you keep calling him up? Do you like him so much you miss his comments?
I believe this post you’ve responded to answers your question. But notice you specified “him”. Please don’t out someone without their permission.
LK is frequently brought up and quoted but she definitely isn’t missed.
He called himself him. I don’t know him and wouldn’t know that except for his own post.