Barisone assessment

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

@MorganSercu

@Knights_Mom

Add to that he was beaten to a pulp while being forced to involuntarily play a game of Bizarro Stratego while being stalked by the Suboxone Ninja while being sleep deprived trying to protect his customers horses from harm and who knows maybe a barn fire?

Two grown adults who don’t know how to unplug a dryer. One of them is supposedly capable of renovating a house too. Instead he painted himself unto a corner.

I suspect they were “worried about the dryer” while sneaking around the barn when they shouldn’t be. Planning to break into the locked office to falsify documents and bust into the gun safe too was also part of their planned activities. Date night looks very different for some people.

If they were banned from the barn after hours then who was to unplug the dryer? They have to sneak in to unplug the dryer? In the workout black dance attire the worker dubbed a ninja outfit?

RG was IN the barn when he discovered the malfunctioning dryer. Per testimony.

[MHM]

@LexInVA

It is my understanding that she was doing - in her words - labor for MB, involving the horses and other barn-stuff at the farm and shows being attended.

I would be very interested to hear more details on that one. Was she going to the shows ahead of time and bedding all the stalls for them? Stacking the hay? Hanging and filling water buckets?

[LexInVA]

@MHM

@LexInVA

It is my understanding that she was doing - in her words - labor for MB, involving the horses and other barn-stuff at the farm and shows being attended.

I would be very interested to hear more details on that one. Was she going to the shows ahead of time and bedding all the stalls for them? Stacking the hay? Hanging and filling water buckets?

Only someone who was closely involved in the business as a worker or client at the time could answer those questions. Knowing what we now know about her, it could have easily been part of the ongoing and ever-changing fantasy narrative that LK has constructed for herself.

[ekat]

@LexInVA

Only someone who was closely involved in the business as a worker or client at the time could answer those questions. Knowing what we now know about her, it could have easily been part of the ongoing and ever-changing fantasy narrative that LK has constructed for herself.

She did say she lies a lot on SM after all.

[MHM]

@ekat

@LexInVA

Only someone who was closely involved in the business as a worker or client at the time could answer those questions. Knowing what we now know about her, it could have easily been part of the ongoing and ever-changing fantasy narrative that LK has constructed for herself.

She did say she lies a lot on SM after all.

Indeed.

[LexInVA]

@MHM

@ekat

@LexInVA

Only someone who was closely involved in the business as a worker or client at the time could answer those questions. Knowing what we now know about her, it could have easily been part of the ongoing and ever-changing fantasy narrative that LK has constructed for herself.

She did say she lies a lot on SM after all.

Indeed.

And if she did make that false claim, she would face no USEF sanction for it, because no violation occurred.

[MorganSercu]

@hut-ho78

If they were banned from the barn after hours then who was to unplug the dryer? They have to sneak in to unplug the dryer? In the workout black dance attire the worker dubbed a ninja outfit?

You are oddly specific about what she wore that night. However, you forgot the veil which is not standard attire.

[MHM]

@LexInVA

And if she did make that false claim, she would face no USEF sanction for it, because no violation occurred.

Indeed again.

[CindyB59]

Am I the only one that finds it absolutely ludicrous that someone should be able to remain in & on someone else property until they deem the terms of leaving are to their satisfaction?

I mean really? I own (or lease) a property. Someone is on it. I want them to leave. They know for months that I no longer want them on my property. But they should be able to blithely remain, while making life as miserable as possible?

I can’t think of a single person who should be okay, much less defend, those actions.

Mi understand protecting tenants rights. But my God this type of scenario should not be allowed anywhere, any time.

My mom is moving into an apt. The previous tenants didn’t leave. They were given 10 days. Still didn’t leave. Eviction will be filed this week. If not out in 5 days, sheriff will escort them off the property. 3 weeks start to finish. That’s how it should be

[eggbutt]

I wonder if the current tenants of the apartment you’re speaking have a plan to destroy the landlord and terrorize them and call fire marshalls, building inspectors and child protection agencies to cause them problems?

[CindyB59]

God, I hope not. My mom is staying with me until apt is ready. I haven’t lived with her since I was 18 for many reasons

[smoofox]

Blue.

@CurrentlyHorseless

1. Re bolded. Posters can be banned because “the mods have been messaged about them”? You’re saying that rather than using the flagging button, posters use a PM to the mods instead? That just sounds like a more general version of the idea of “flagging”. I think you’ve confirmed that banning occurs when someone brings the bad behavior to the attention of the mods, whether with the flag button or by PM. No, I was not “bragging about” flagging a while back, and I have never used PM to complain to the mods about the behavior of another poster.

I was just demonstrating to you that a poster can be banned in a variety of ways - not just the reasons you insist it is happening.
I am not about to wade through all your wordy posts to find the exact phrase, but like YD (which is why I even noticed it), at some point you mentioned you were intently flagging certain posts that did not meet with your exacting specifications and the mods were in agreement with you or something to that effect. I have not “confirmed” any of your endless speculations and accusations…

2. I wished to mention the banned posters Equkelly and RND. I happened to throw in the @, when I did so. I had no idea throwing in the @ mattered for anything. I still don’t understand why it matters for a banned poster who will not see it anyway. I trust the moderators decisions. Why would my mentioning the banned posters, with or without the @, suggest that I thought they were “wronged”?

Just a guess - as you have lamented that Equkelly (who had issues in many other threads and topics) was banned (for some allegedly apparently unfathomable reason) in the past. Why tag the name if a poster cannot see it? That is the purpose of tagging - so there is a notification. Now that you understand that the @ added matters - still, why tag someone who will not see it? You can wish to mention them all you like. Tagging them is meaningless.

3. I also did not realize that using the tagging feature of the forum when addressing active posters was considered offensive. I don’t object to being tagged. You’re right that it’s redundant if you’re quoting @screennameA, but it’s not redundant if you’re referring to @screennameB while quoting @screennameA.

I never said “offensive” - you did. Putting words and accusations in others’ mouths or at their keyboards is a tiresome tactic. Tagging the same posters multiple times in one post - as well as quoting them - is just redundant. And yet, for some reason, some seem to enjoy it.

4. I receive many, many notifications that I’ve been quoted by trubandloki, and have been able to simply ignore that form of harassment. For months. Do you have an opinion on the forum etiquette regarding that tiresome tactic?

I do not do it. But based on the behavior of some posters who delete or edit their posts to alter their words, I see why some do it. Amazingly enough, I am more than capable of scrolling by that. One could also simply block a poster who is doing that if it is troubling you. One can also simply delete the notifications - but complaining about that when tagging others for notifications… is a bit odd.

Edited for clarity as I had the color boxes screwed up. Is that allowed? Anyone? Bueller? /s

[ekat]

@eggbutt

I wonder if the current tenants of the apartment you’re speaking have a plan to destroy the landlord and terrorize them and call fire marshalls, building inspectors and child protection agencies to cause them problems?

You know, I thought I had seen a ton of destruction and misery inflicted by tenants in that timeframe while I’m waiting for the constables to put them out of my property. But never, in my wildest imagination did I picture this. I’d rather have my building stripped of copper wire, cement in the plumbing and stolen appliances, thank you very much.

[Knights_Mom]

@MHM

@Knights_Mom

Give notice and if they aren’t removed, remove them for the boarder.

To what location?

According to the rules of that jurisdiction which may or may not include the Sheriff or auction as 2 examples. In the old days folks would say they are tying the horse to a telephone pole but as we are caring horsefolk that’s a horrible option. But it’s just a matter of making the horses go away.

[McGurk]

Sorry, I know I’m way behind on this thread, but back in the day, at the boarding barns I worked for with unsophisticated bookkeeping, extra services were always paid directly to the groom or barn worker. It was sort of an incentive system for the workers. You got paid your hourly rate by the barn, but if a client wanted you to clip or braid or wrap or handwalk, you made a separate cash deal with barn worker, with the BO/BMs full approval and encouragement.

High end dressage barn and the horse with cellulitis? Can totally see PayPaling a barn worker for hand walking or wrapping, separate from your boarding contract, when you can’t get to the barn to do it.

Barn workers love the extra $$$ in cash, not reported through the books.

I can also easily see how someone could distort that situation into “I paid the barn staff because the owner wouldn’t.” He could absolutely afford to pay, it’s just a pain in the butt bookkeeping wise, and after taxes and deductions, the barnworker would only net $10 for hand walking or wrapping.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@MorganSercu

@Knights_Mom

Add to that he was beaten to a pulp while being forced to involuntarily play a game of Bizarro Stratego while being stalked by the Suboxone Ninja while being sleep deprived trying to protect his customers horses from harm and who knows maybe a barn fire?

Two grown adults who don’t know how to unplug a dryer. One of them is supposedly capable of renovating a house too. Instead he painted himself unto a corner.

I suspect they were “worried about the dryer” while sneaking around the barn when they shouldn’t be. Planning to break into the locked office to falsify documents and bust into the gun safe too was also part of their planned activities. Date night looks very different for some people.

If they were banned from the barn after hours then who was to unplug the dryer? They have to sneak in to unplug the dryer? In the workout black dance attire the worker dubbed a ninja outfit?

There’s this thing called text messaging and it would go like this:

Please check dryer. It seems to be running hot and making clanky noises. Thanks.

[MorganSercu]

I don’t know but it is now out for the public to consider. If I knew she was a current boarder, I would find another place to go based on her stating she has NPD alone. Forget the past drug use/abuse. NPD = leaving. Quickly and telling people why I left.

Having the drug abusing boyfriend in tow as well is a liability too far. I wouldn’t risk my possessions being kited.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

It’s just another mean post.

Bias? No, the post was fact. Sometimes truth can hurt. You seem to have a particular bias that LK is loved and welcomed throughout the equestrian world. You and several others defend her every move, or conveniently ignore the really ugly things, and attempt to turn everyone else into the enemy gathered to be mean. At least attempt to be objective.

This constant mention of RI is tiresome. Most don’t know the truth of what happened on August 7 and many believe LK/RG were the attackers. We won’t know because 1) the video proof RG told the police was available disappeared, 2) the small town PD did a ridiculously poor job of gathering forensic evidence, and 3) Barisone had such extensive injuries to his head/brain that resulted in memory loss and PTSD. Since Taylor hogtied the defense in several areas the jury did the right thing with their verdict. You can hope and use your influence with the court/AK to attempt to keep Barisone held for many years. I hope influence is ignored and the right decisions are made so all involved can actually move on with their lives with many lessons learned.

One thought for the Kanarek folks, the faster MB is released to outpatient care the faster the civil trials can proceed. Isn’t winning the civil trials the next goal for them?

I do not know the Kanareks. I have no influence with AK and the courts in New Jersey or anywhere else. Your continued guessing of identities and ties is amusing and in error.

The local LE did their job regardless of what a few here misrepresent.

[Warmblood1]

@McGurk

Sorry, I know I’m way behind on this thread, but back in the day, at the boarding barns I worked for with unsophisticated bookkeeping, extra services were always paid directly to the groom or barn worker. It was sort of an incentive system for the workers. You got paid your hourly rate by the barn, but if a client wanted you to clip or braid or wrap or handwalk, you made a separate cash deal with barn worker, with the BO/BMs full approval and encouragement.

High end dressage barn and the horse with cellulitis? Can totally see PayPaling a barn worker for hand walking or wrapping, separate from your boarding contract, when you can’t get to the barn to do it.

Barn workers love the extra $$$ in cash, not reported through the books.

I can also easily see how someone could distort that situation into “I paid the barn staff because the owner wouldn’t.” He could absolutely afford to pay, it’s just a pain in the butt bookkeeping wise, and after taxes and deductions, the barnwork would only net $10 for hand walk or wrapping

I do agree with you, 100 percent. But if I’m not getting my wires crossed, I believe the comment was that she paid their salary for that month or time period. Now I’m wondering exactly what was said, but I can’t remember the origin of the comment. Anyone have any idea where LK originally said she was paying the staff?

And if I’m also not mistaken, RG wrapped a horse twice daily, which was brought up in testimony. Essentially, there were barn hours in place that conflicted with the wrapping schedule. This sticks out to me because I believe the barn closed at 9pm, they wrapped at 9am/9pm, and I found it asinine that RG/LK couldn’t manipulate their schedule by 15 minutes and adhere to barn rules by wrapping at 8:45am/8:45pm. Entirely possible they were paying a groom (etc) for additional services, but I am pretty certain LK said she still paid their salary. I could be wrong.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

The local LE did their job regardless of what a few here misrepresent

Misrepresenting? Bah! Hardly! Several here are familiar with law and law enforcement and ALL are in agreement as to the ridiculously terrible forensics done on this case.