Barisone assessment

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

The local LE did their job regardless of what a few here misrepresent.

If their job is to a) not secure a potential threat, b) not secure the scene, c) not completely search the scene and d) not test anyone for GSR, then yes, they did their job just perfectly.

Disclaimer, the first responders most assuredly saved LK’s life. That being said, some 40+ officers arrived and skipped over b, c, and d.

[Warmblood1]

@hut-ho78

The local LE did their job regardless of what a few here misrepresent.

That is merely your opinion.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Ali seemed heartbroken over MB’s breakdown and the entire situation. I posted and just did again that I would not be surprised if she helped LK relocate her horses to Ulf’s barn in Florida. Ali seems to be a professional who believes in the good of the sport and would hate all the bad press and tawdry bickering.

This clearly did not happen, considering the public record. If it did happen, then LK clearly stabbed her in the back by attempting to record her for evidence at this new barn and publicly accusing her and her trainer of fraud.

Since you insist on repeating these obviously false allegations, it seems like you are fishing for someone to come and correct you in a very specific way so that you can think you are identifying their screen name.

Nope. I have not ever tried to guess identities or out anyone. I have had many accuse me of being several different people and try to out me as such. Happened yet again from @eggbutt insinuating I was team Kanarek and had influence with AK and New Jersey courts. Pretty tiresome tactic really to keep accusing someone of your own behavior.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

Ali seemed heartbroken over MB’s breakdown and the entire situation. I posted and just did again that I would not be surprised if she helped LK relocate her horses to Ulf’s barn in Florida. Ali seems to be a professional who believes in the good of the sport and would hate all the bad press and tawdry bickering.

This clearly did not happen, considering the public record. If it did happen, then LK clearly stabbed her in the back by attempting to record her for evidence at this new barn and publicly accusing her and her trainer of fraud.

Since you insist on repeating these obviously false allegations, it seems like you are fishing for someone to come and correct you in a very specific way so that you can think you are identifying their screen name.

Nope. I have not ever tried to guess identities or out anyone. I have had many accuse me of being several different people and try to out me as such. Happened yet again from @eggbutt insinuating I was team Kanarek and had influence with AK and New Jersey courts. Pretty tiresome tactic really to keep accusing someone of your own behavior.

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[hut-ho78]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

@eggbutt

@ohnoO

Has she really quit riding, as someone way, way up thread said?

The horses don’t care as long as there is turnout, but one can ride without a trainer session ya’know.

If she loved it that much and is now not riding, I think that speaks volumes to loving the lifestyle, not the rides. I think that is sad .

I don’t think anyone has any idea what she’s doing other than posting on YouTube chats and reliving the trial. That said, I don’t know anyone who is actively trying to figure out what she’s doing either.

Except when you are telling us all the latest you heard from your so called sources. @eggbutt has said that she heard LK is not longer riding and the substitute trainer while the main trainer was out of country recently quit.

Come on now @hut-ho78, is that really what I said?

None of my friends in FL speak of LK. They discuss Barisone quite a bit and their joy at having him back in the area again. Lauren is persona non grata in the equestrian world.

Yes, @eggbutt. You stated that the substitute trainer for Ulf fired LK as a client immediately after the trial, and that she has not been riding since.

Actually, you posted the detail that the substitute trainer fired her in a phone call.

Yes. Exactly. @eggbutt also contradicted @BigMama1 a while back when she posted her friends told her LK was quiet, polite, and riding her horse.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@CanteringCarrot

You all are obsessed with this flagging stuff

Just jumping off here. But I really have to wonder just who is actually doing all the flagging. Doesn’t it seem that flagging for calling behavior “junior high” or “juvenile” seem a bit thin skinned for the board population? Don’t we see much worse in the CE on a daily basis? Or in any number of the dumpster fire threads?

One would think. I was surprised to get the message from the moderator about junior high behavior. I haven’t checked to see if the “juvenile” comment remains.

[hut-ho78]

@Angela_Freda

Agree. Its juvenile. And that’s telling.

Here is one. Still flagged and still here. So if it gets one flag then no action but multiple flags then it’s deleted with a message from the mod. Good to know. Y’all are busted!

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Angela_Freda

Agree. Its juvenile. And that’s telling.

Here is one. Still flagged and still here. So if it gets one flag then no action but multiple flags then it’s deleted with a message from the mod. Good to know. Y’all are busted!

Yeah if we were ACTUALLY busted like 20 times we could become a Kanarek.

[hut-ho78]

@FitzE

Can someone give a quick and dirty summary of what the homestead thing (HE?) is?

P.S.: definitely Team Annoying as Heck/Also Super Juvenile and Dorky - and I don’t even access this site by phone, only PC.

Here is another. Same. Glad I didn’t use such strong language again as juvenile or repeat the junior high maturity comment. Y’all would have tag teamed me in a New York minute!

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

@eggbutt

@ohnoO

Has she really quit riding, as someone way, way up thread said?

The horses don’t care as long as there is turnout, but one can ride without a trainer session ya’know.

If she loved it that much and is now not riding, I think that speaks volumes to loving the lifestyle, not the rides. I think that is sad .

I don’t think anyone has any idea what she’s doing other than posting on YouTube chats and reliving the trial. That said, I don’t know anyone who is actively trying to figure out what she’s doing either.

Except when you are telling us all the latest you heard from your so called sources. @eggbutt has said that she heard LK is not longer riding and the substitute trainer while the main trainer was out of country recently quit.

Come on now @hut-ho78, is that really what I said?

None of my friends in FL speak of LK. They discuss Barisone quite a bit and their joy at having him back in the area again. Lauren is persona non grata in the equestrian world.

Yes, @eggbutt. You stated that the substitute trainer for Ulf fired LK as a client immediately after the trial, and that she has not been riding since - if these are my words I would have clearly said “I suspect”. Contrary to y’all’s opinion, no one really cares what she’s doing as long as she’s leaving them alone.

Actually, you posted the detail that the substitute trainer fired her in a phone call.

And indeed, I was definitely given this information (regarding the trainer) by someone removed from the inner circle shortly after she returned from NJ. It quickly became common knowledge in the area and I heard it three more times from others. Are you saying this information is incorrect?

Finally, she admits she posted it. Hooray!

[hut-ho78]

@arktos19

This is Lalapoprider post from a November 2021 “Horse Care” thread on blanketing:

“At my current barn, more specifically, the barn my horses occupy, I do have “nanny cams,” in each horse’s stall- but with the expressed permission of the owner. And, we were glad to see that the other barns on the premises had full surveillance too. Anyway, just my thoughts. I have nothing against your thoughts, as I’m (hopefully) sure you already know. ”

Other posts on that thread included mention of her apartment on premises and her privately hired team of grooms that function like a well-oiled machine…

Actually some barns welcome cameras for horse health, safety, and security. They’ve been used in foaling barns for years. I was in one that looked into setting up cameras for all of the owners but decided it was too expensive at the time.

[hut-ho78]

@BrendaJane

wasn’t the Prosecuting expert trying to assert that since all the things actually were perpetrated by the ninjagal and her sidekick Boy Friday MB was not actually delusional?

In any case
I think I need to find my brewing buckets. They don’t sell mini kegs around here anymore.

Yes and the jury believed the defense mental health experts.

[hut-ho78]

@LiberalSnowflake

@Sdel

Just so it is clear as to where some of the last couple of day’s comments are coming from…

Lordy, she’s writing in the third person again - and referencing that “letter from jail”, the letter that she shared around to utterly random folk in the dressage world she’d never met, thinking it was some kind of stake in his heart, when all it showed was how caring he was about his fellow inmates, with no mention of her, the incident, or the trial at all.

It’s like nothing really sinks in, she just keeps repeating the same things over and over regardless of actual facts, or what’s gone on. It’s such odd behaviour for an adult, it’s more like what you’d get from a small child.

She is banned and y’all still can’t stop posting her stuff on here. Good grief.

[eggbutt]

Has anyone noticed if anyone posts a truth the Kanareks can’t handle or brings up anything they don’t want discussed the personal attacks and nasty posts begin?

[Warmblood1]

@Knights_Mom

There’s this thing called text messaging and it would go like this:

Please check dryer. It seems to be running hot and making clanky noises. Thanks.

I applaud your logic!

Other logical scenarios:

-Unplug the dryer, send text regarding concerns
-Unplug the dryer, make phone call regarding concerns
-Unplug the dryer, leave note over electrical socket stating “dryer is broke - do not plug in until fixed”
-Unplug the dryer, place duct tape over electric socket, leave note on dryer stating “do not use”
-Unplug the dryer, leave note on actual dryer that dryer is broken, “do not use”
-unplug dryer, alert barn staff directly not to turn on
-unplug dryer, duct tape door shut, leave note “do not use”
-remove plug from dryer so it can’t be plugged in

Illogical options:

Do nothing. Leave dryer as in, creating perpetual safety concern. Call fire inspectors who are off the property regarding concerns. Wait for fire inspectors delayed response.

[FitzE]

@MorganSercu

You are oddly specific about what she wore that night. However, you forgot the veil which is not standard attire.

Wait, someone posting here knows exactly what she was wearing that night?!! How?!

I know it was not discussed at trial other than by Mr McGrain.

[FitzE]

@Warmblood1

Do nothing. Leave dryer as in, creating perpetual safety concern. Call fire inspectors who are off the property regarding concerns. Wait for fire inspectors delayed response.

Don’t forget, alert fire inspectors THE NEXT DAY by handwritten letter - you know, for speed and safety.

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

@Angela_Freda

Agree. Its juvenile. And that’s telling.

Here is one. Still flagged and still here. So if it gets one flag then no action but multiple flags then it’s deleted with a message from the mod. Good to know. Y’all are busted!

What rule did you flag this for violating?
I think that’s what you’re missing, it has to break a rule to get removed. Flagging alone isn’t enough. Flag is a suggestion to the mods the flagged thinks its broken a rule. If mods disagre…

[Warmblood1]

@eggbutt

Has anyone noticed if anyone posts a truth the Kanareks can’t handle or brings up anything they don’t want discussed the personal attacks and nasty posts begin?

Sure have. There are about 4 posters that become consistently undone when their theories are challenged. Coincidentally, you happen to be the person they most frequently reply to, according to their profiles. They seem to be very bothered by your posts. I wonder why that is? Could it be that you are challenging their narrative with your own truth and they just can’t stand it? Hmm.

[eggbutt]

You continue to throw out these statements indicating others said such and such but never back it up with the post itself. Why is that?

And, for the record, I have no need to out you. All I implied was you sound conspicuously like certain other posters. One thing I can say is no one has ever accused anyone else of being me or SDel or KnightsMom, etc because we are distinct personalities. Calm down, I don’t care who you are other than you suddenly are posted with a determined factual tone reminiscent of certain other posters.