Honestly, I had never been aware of her in any context other than her marriage/divorce/lawsuit headlines, so maybe she needs a better publicist.
Although there are certainly plenty of people these days who seem to be considered famous who are completely off my radar. Lol.
With LK and Heard, they do not represent #MeToo, they represent #MeThree (in other words #MEMEME!)
I just want to point out that new people continue to find the trial on YT and are still coming to the same conclusions and leave comments about how much a victim MB was and they are glad for the verdict.
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I can’t imagine Seeker1 transcribing 81 illegal recordings. I assume the video recordings are included in this number? Now that the criminal trial is over, it would be interesting to see the lost videos of the day of the shooting! I wonder if Bilinkas/Deininger will be able to locate them somewhere in cyberspace?
The civil trials will be fascinating since so much was prohibited from the criminal trial. Everything should be pertinent in these multiple civil trials.
@ekat will testimony from the criminal trial be allowed in/useful for the civil trials?
I would guess that a lot of those recordings are only a few sentences, which wouldn’t take long to transcribe, not that her transcriptions are useful for legal purposes.
I honestly don’t think there are any missing videos. My gut firmly believes that they did that one test video and then turned the cameras off. My gut also believes that the phone call with ED was a set up so they had an independent “witness” to whatever they’d planned, which may or may have not included ambushing him and beating him senseless, therefore, they wouldn’t want or need the cameras. They just didn’t expect the outcome they got.
They can use the testimony the same way they can use any other sworn testimony and interviews. So, hypothetically, someone could testify in court for the civil trial that the sky is blood red. And then on cross, Mr Deininger, for example, could ask, back in 09/2019, you told the police the sky was purple, right? And in March 2022, you testified under oath that the sky was green, correct? And in July 2022 you gave a sworn statement that the sky was orange, correct! And in October, 2022, you swore under oath in a deposition, the sky was blue, correct? So, which was it?
If this actually makes it to trial, it will be interesting to watch, for sure.
Did Bilinkas ever claim that there were videos of the shooting? If he thought there were, presumably he could have sought evidence that recordings had been made and deleted; I doubt that one can make recordings and delete them without a trace.
If such recordings ever existed, and even possibly showed something different from the prosecution’s case, surely Bilinkas would have pulled out all the stops to run down their existence for the criminal trial.
A permanent disagreement left over from the previous threads is whether the NGRI verdict does or doesn’t establish that MB did in fact shoot LK (not in self defense). I think it does.
The fact that MB was found to be insane at the time of the shooting absolves him of criminal liability. The question is to what extent it does or doesn’t absolve him of civil liability.
In the criminal trial, Barisone elected not to testify. In a civil trial, does he have a similar option to decline to testify?
He doesn’t have to testify. But the difference between a criminal trial and a civil trial is that you can’t hold his silence against him in a criminal trial. In a civil trial, the plaintiff is free to infer that his silence means something, and the jury can consider that silence.
For his counterclaim, he doesn’t HAVE to testify, but establishing injury and damages is generally best done by the testimony of the injured party.
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@ekat, with multiple people involved, SGF, RC and MB, does the civil trial proceed as one big group or is there a trial for each person or business?
At this point it’s all one big trial. Plaintiff (LK) will present her claim, SHF, RC, MB present their defenses (and cross-claims).
MB right now is the only one with a counter suit. He then would present his claim, and everyone else would present their defenses.
If you watched any of the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trial, it was the same concept. Depp went first, case was rested, then Heard proceeded with her counterclaim. Then the jury came back with verdicts on both.
I believe this was someone on the You Tube Video. It just goes to show that total strangers who had not heard of LK came to their own conclusions after watching the trial.
One of the cops testified in the Miranda hearings that RG volunteered that there was video of the shooting. That never made it into the trial.
Thank you, it seems as it would take a lot of time, maybe a couple of weeks to go through all that. I hope it is televised like the criminal trial.
The defense attorney’s job was to make Lauren look as bad as he could. This doesn’t mean everything he said about her was true. Lauren wasn’t on trial. He wanted to prevent Michael from going to jail for 20 years.
RG’s credibility was shredded in the trial though. I’m not sure that’s evidence there actually was a video.
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I agree. But it would have been even more so if that had gotten in there.
Where have you been for the last month? Such a coincidence….
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