Barisone Case on 48 Hours, 10:00 PM Eastern, Saturday, 9/17

[eggbutt]

So true. I’ve worked many CDIs of various levels and without a doubt the high level horses were always “ON”. They were hand walked with restraints handy and exuded personality and alertness. Most ammys can’t handle that type of horse regardless what their dreams and imagination tells them. This is not a reflection on or judgement of Lauren’s or anyone else’s horses.

[Knights_Mom]

@DownYonder

@cutter99

If you come into the state and do not stop at an agriculture inspection center, law enforcement will run you down and stop you on the interstate,

Not just the interstate. I know of someone who was turned back at the ag inspection station due to lack of current paperwork for one horse on the rig, went back up the road into GA and then tried to sneak back into FL on a side road. He got caught.

@cutter99

Another point- if the entire barn packs up and heads South for the winter, wouldn’t you 1) be fully aware of the date this is happening, 2) either be going along, or 3) be looking for another alternative for boarding and training if you chose not to go?

Another point - if the entire barn - and staff - are heading to FL for the winter, no decent trainer (esp. one with MB’s experience and credentials) is going to leave a horse at the barn alone, with no one to care for it. Nope, they are going to load it with the rest, esp. if the owner has made no provisions to move the horse herself before the training barn closed up for the winter. My guess is that MB gave the client notification of the move ahead of time but there was a communication lapse between the two of them, so he moved the horse to make sure it was taken care of.

At the very least the owner would get the bill for the vet visit and bill of health as well as having been notified that the barn was moving to FL for season and would be closed in NJ.

[Sdel]

@Angela_Freda

So just ask what I mean.
No need to bicker, what an odd default to have.

You can’t have a good bicker with out at least two participants. If one isn’t wanting to play the bicker games, then might I suggest the quiet game as a nice alternative?

[Jealoushe]

@Angela_Freda

So just ask what I mean.
No need to bicker, what an odd default to have.

LOL I don’t care what you meant though. I do not want to participate in coversation with you.

[jaj]

So don’t.

[Angela_Freda]

@Jealoushe

LOL I don’t care what you meant though. I do not want to participate in coversation with you.

So don’t read or respond, or put me on ignore.
Your choice.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@CanteringCarrot

@CurrentlyHorseless

@enjoytheride

Do you really think that a trainer would ship someone’s horse to a different state without their consent because he didn’t get to show it himself?

Based on what the amateur owner former Barisone client stated, I believe her that he shipped the horse to Florida to show the horse himself, despite not having the permission to do so from the owner.

You are very anti Barisone, and I get that, but it’s still fascinating to me who and what you choose to believe. I don’t know whether or not to believe that person, because it’s one person, and I’d have to hear/know/see more. I bet if I told you that MB once yelled at me for tying my shoe you’d believe me, eh?

I am not “very anti Barisone”, unless being capable of believing that he had significant issues of arrogance, dishonesty, and abusiveness before LK entered his life automatically makes me “very anti Barisone”.

I don’t always believe what LK writes or posts. She has obviously lied and exaggerated things on SM. I don’t always believe what Eggbutt writes.

I don’t know for a fact that this woman’s statement is true, but yes, I believe it. I believe it in part because before posting on the Barisone threads she posted a warning about her experience with Barisone, and warned other COTHers that she had found him dishonest and abusive without going into details at the time.

Given her “reception” here at COTH, do you think any other former Barisone clients who left in fear will be inclined to post?

[Angela_Freda]

You are correct.
I’d point out only one person has been claiming to be attacked… but it’s an aside, and pointless.

I’ll add her to the ignore pile. Thanks.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

he had significant issues of arrogance, dishonesty, and abusiveness before LK entered his life automatically makes me “very anti Barisone”.

Again, according to whom? Where?

@CurrentlyHorseless

Given her “reception” her at COTH, do you think any other former Barisone clients who left in fear will be inclined to post?

Do you have a link to this (negative) reception?
Thanks.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I am not “very anti Barisone”, unless being capable of believing that he had significant issues of arrogance, dishonesty, and abusiveness before LK entered his life automatically makes me “very anti Barisone”.

(the game of the day is the quiet game)

[Ghazzu]

I had a client hauling Paints get stopped there and was required to remove all sheets and leg wraps so the markings on the papers could be compared to the horses on the rig.

She was not pleased, as they’d been on the road for a long day, and she was concerned there would be difficulty getting the reloaded, so she wound up crawling in amongst them to unwrap their legs and remove the sheets.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Angela_Freda

Do you have a link to this (negative) reception?
Thanks.

Please see posts upthread. I don’t wish to rehash.

You’re most welcome.

[DownYonder]

@Ghazzu

I had a client hauling Paints get stopped there and was required to remove all sheets and leg wraps so the markings on the papers could be compared to the horses on the rig.

Not surprised. Folks try to sneak horses into FL all the time using falsified paperwork. Can you say “Plain bay gelding”?

It would sure be easier on LE and FL Dept. of Ag if every horse coming in had to have a microchip.

[dacasodivine]

@KurPlexed

From the GFM update:

48 Hours showed you what the Kanareks are, but you have only seen the tip of the iceberg. There is so much more that you don’t know, because the judge blocked it from the criminal trial, and 48 Hours couldn’t tell the whole story. It will only be through the civil trial where Michael is counter suing that you will finally hear the whole truth

When any of the Trifecta say this, I roll my eyes. They’ve been promising bombshells for years. I believe what was posted on the GFM. I think bombshells are finally going to be dropped in the civil trial as promised, but against the Ks rather than by the Ks. Their lives will never be the same when all is said and done.

[Ghazzu]

@Jealoushe

I have had some of the most horrible things I have ever heard said to me here on this forum.

I find that quite surprising.
One imagines that you might live in a cloister.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Please see posts upthread

Which?

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

Which?

There are lots of good posts, shall we just pick some?

[hut-ho78]

Usually when someone taunts “show me” it means the mods have been busy cleaning up the nursery mess again overnight and the posts have been removed.

[Jealoushe]

@Ghazzu

I find that quite surprising.
One imagines that you might live in a cloister.

Yes it was surprising the first time and actually quite shocking. Not as surprising when it happens anymore.

Not sure the rest of that comment was necessary.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@hut-ho78

Usually when someone taunts “show me” it means the mods have been busy cleaning up the nursery mess again overnight and the posts have been removed.

Perhaps. But in the case of @Angela_Freda, I think she plies me with questions just to try to get me to waste time and effort. Long ago I naively tried to answer, but not anymore.