Barisone Criminal Case Update

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Equkelly

@eggbutt

I’m actually at a loss for words.

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Imagine that.

No, quite the opposite. It is apparent to me none of her daughter’s comments here or on other SM sites have been read. I see hurting parents in utter denial. I am positive you will disagree with me.

Eggbutt brushes off a non anonymous post by Lauren’s mother by asserting that it is apparent to her, Eggbutt, that Kirby Kanarek as read “none of her daughter’s comments here”.

What about your comments, Eggbutt? Has she read any of those?

It is very clear that if she (the mother) thinks everyone else is uncaring and mean and LK has never said anything mean to anyone that the mother has never read LK’s social media. Not before the shooting, not what she says about people here (even those not here, like her most recent post about her X-MIL).

I feel for her parents here. That does not mean I have to agree with their opinion.

PS, I volunteer several places.

Did Kirby Kanarek say that she thinks “LK has never said anything mean to anyone”? Of course not.

[Knights_Mom]

@Fat_Dinah

Again, RC is not a witness “for” the prosecution. She appears to be a witness called by the prosecution, probably by a subpoena she cannot legally ignore. She can be questioned by the defense. This idea of people testifying in favor of one side or the other ignores how Trials occur.

She cut a deal with the prosecution.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Equkelly

@eggbutt

I’m actually at a loss for words.

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Imagine that.

No, quite the opposite. It is apparent to me none of her daughter’s comments here or on other SM sites have been read. I see hurting parents in utter denial. I am positive you will disagree with me.

Eggbutt brushes off a non anonymous post by Lauren’s mother by asserting that it is apparent to her, Eggbutt, that Kirby Kanarek as read “none of her daughter’s comments here”.

What about your comments, Eggbutt? Has she read any of those?

It is very clear that if she (the mother) thinks everyone else is uncaring and mean and LK has never said anything mean to anyone that the mother has never read LK’s social media. Not before the shooting, not what she says about people here (even those not here, like her most recent post about her X-MIL).

I feel for her parents here. That does not mean I have to agree with their opinion.

PS, I volunteer several places.

Did Kirby Kanarek say that she thinks “LK has never said anything mean to anyone”? Of course not.

Who cares what she said? I don’t. [edit]

[Sdel]

@Fat_Dinah

This idea of people testifying in favor of one side or the other ignores how Trials occur.

It certainly seems like it took a long time to secure this plea deal. Does it usually take this long (just a few months before trial) to secure witness testimony?

[Scribbler]

The apple rarely falls far from the tree. If the child is barred from the family home there is more to the story.

[Graymaresrule]

It’s a family thing, like Chris Cuomo helping his brother.

I’m sure KK knows her daughter screwed up many times but no one better criticize her

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Equkelly

@eggbutt

I’m actually at a loss for words.

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Imagine that.

No, quite the opposite. It is apparent to me none of her daughter’s comments here or on other SM sites have been read. I see hurting parents in utter denial. I am positive you will disagree with me.

Eggbutt brushes off a non anonymous post by Lauren’s mother by asserting that it is apparent to her, Eggbutt, that Kirby Kanarek as read “none of her daughter’s comments here”.

What about your comments, Eggbutt? Has she read any of those?

Clearly the posting scolding us was of greater impacts to you than others.

Are you referring to Kirby Kanarek’s post stating that the personal attacks on her daughter are hurtful and pointless? I agree with her and think she’s brave to come on here and state that under her real name.

It doesn’t surprise me that her statement had little impact on the perpetrators of the attacks. Nevertheless, EBs brushing it with off the assertion that she, Eggbutt, was sure KK had read none of LKs posts here was shocking to me. Yeah, that did have an impact on me.

[RND]

@Equkelly

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Not surprisingly, there is no low that is low enough for some of these folks.

[RND]

@Fat_Dinah

Again, RC is not a witness “for” the prosecution. She appears to be a witness called by the prosecution, probably by a subpoena she cannot legally ignore. She can be questioned by the defense. This idea of people testifying in favor of one side or the other ignores how Trials occur.

Witness For The Prosecution - Trial - LAWS.com

[Knights_Mom]

@Sdel

@Fat_Dinah

This idea of people testifying in favor of one side or the other ignores how Trials occur.

It certainly seems like it took a long time to secure this plea deal. Does it usually take this long (just a few months before trial) to secure witness testimony?

It can. One of the links I posted earlier spoke of a delay in the plea deal until such time as the parties, especially the defense, can ascertain how dire their trial verdict chances are. It takes time for all the Discovery and Disclosure and blah blah blah take time.

[Angela_Freda]

@Equkelly

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Imagine that.

Anyone could post here claiming to be anyone… Santa, The Easter Bunny, the Pope … Literally Anyone

[Sdel]

Yes. The prosecution has to have RC’s testimony because without her testifying she gave him control of the gun or they have no case. That does not mean she is testifying that there was a plot or having any knowledge of intent. Nor does the prosecution have any control about anything else she might say during the defenses cross examination about the situation on the farm, why she was there, why she had the gun, the condemnation of the house and the dog bite, or any of the events related to the 911 calls.

[rothmpp]

@Sdel

Yes. The prosecution has to have RC’s testimony because without her testifying she gave him control of the gun or they have no case. That does not mean she is testifying that there was a plot or having any knowledge of intent. Nor does the prosecution have any control about anything else she might say during the defenses cross examination about the situation on the farm, why she was there, why she had the gun, the condemnation of the house and the dog bite, or any of the events related to the 911 calls.

You beat me to it - I was just going to say, sure the prosecution is the one calling RC to testify, but that leaves her open to cross examination by the defense. The prosecutor must be confident that they need her testimony to be willing to run the risk of what she might say under cross examination.

[RND]

@Sdel

Yes. The prosecution has to have RC’s testimony because without her testifying she gave him control of the gun or they have no case. That does not mean she is testifying that there was a plot or having any knowledge of intent. Nor does the prosecution have any control about anything else she might say during the defenses cross examination about the situation on the farm, why she was there, why she had the gun, the condemnation of the house and the dog bite, or any of the events related to the 911 calls.

FatDinah has implied more than once that there is no such thing as a “witness for the prosecution”; I simply posted a link showing that she is wrong. The terms “witness for the prosecution” and “witness for the defense” are used all the time. It doesn’t mean the other side doesn’t get to question the witness and it doesn’t imply anything about what the witness will say on the stand.

[Sdel]

No, you posted it attempting to insinuate a flavor of testimony, one which Fat_Dinah was cautioning Knights_Mom against.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@Equkelly

@eggbutt

I’m actually at a loss for words.

What’s wrong? Now that Lauren’s family is here reading the thread it makes you feel icky about your actions?

Imagine that.

No, quite the opposite. It is apparent to me none of her daughter’s comments here or on other SM sites have been read. I see hurting parents in utter denial. I am positive you will disagree with me.

Eggbutt brushes off a non anonymous post by Lauren’s mother by asserting that it is apparent to her, Eggbutt, that Kirby Kanarek as read “none of her daughter’s comments here”.

What about your comments, Eggbutt? Has she read any of those?

Clearly the posting scolding us was of greater impacts to you than others.

Are you referring to Kirby Kanarek’s post stating that the personal attacks on her daughter are hurtful and pointless? I agree with her and think she’s brave to come on here and state that under her real name.

It doesn’t surprise me that her statement had little impact on the perpetrators of the attacks. Nevertheless, EBs brushing it with off the assertion that she, Eggbutt, was sure KK had read none of LKs posts here was shocking to me. Yeah, that did have an impact on me.

We’ve been threatened, bullied, bothered, demeaned, insulted, and intimidation is constant and ongoing. Even tonight’s “Shame On You” manifesto continues in that light.

Here’s the thing: When it’s constantly done it just doesn’t bother you any more. I imagine (at least for me) that had I not been contacted via messaging in an attempt to bully me via a blatant lie about subpoenas and the threat of putting a lien on my property that maybe I wouldn’t feel so strongly about doubting the truthfulness of statements made here. But I was. And it showed me clearly what to think.

So mom, dad, Aunt Evelyn from Albuquerque and Uncle Ed from Kenosha can ALL chime in about how lousy we are. Long story short, I just don’t care.

[RND]

@Sdel

No, you posted it attempting to insinuate a flavor of testimony, one which FatDinah was cautioning Knights_Mom against.

What are you talking about “flavor of testimony”? I told you why I posted it. Don’t pretend to know my reason for posting better than I do - that’s absurd.

[trubandloki]

@Graymaresrule

It’s a family thing, like Chris Cuomo helping his brother.

I’m sure KK knows her daughter screwed up many times but no one better criticize her

I think you hit the nail on the head.

[Knights_Mom]

@trubandloki

@Graymaresrule

It’s a family thing, like Chris Cuomo helping his brother.

I’m sure KK knows her daughter screwed up many times but no one better criticize her

I think you hit the nail on the head.

I have no problem with family protecting family. They should.

[trubandloki]

I asked earlier… What happened to the insistence that NJ had no leniency options for their gun charges? I thought the prosecution and judge had no choice but to give the minimum sentence.