Barisone Criminal Case Update

[Einhorn]

Shoot, i didn’t mean to do that! Fat fingers

Ugh please see cantering carrots quote, but now it was RG on MB, not RC.

Thank you, I’ll see myself out…

[BrendaJane]

I bet you didn’t
Just one of those things Lala posted. I think the mods deleted it and all posts that quoted that little piece of hostile insanity.

Poor Lala got shot at, be nice to her…and then such a humdinger pops up. Sure.

[smoofox]

@eggbutt

I hope your mare is doing well. The crazy weather has been tough on our older ones this year.

It has. She is 29 and also blind - but has been doing very well being with a friend who has a bell on. It is rather Christmas-sy and peaceful to hear the gentle tinkle of that bell all day. Maybe we need a soft bell like that in this thread.

She is better this morning, no longer anxious and pacing and happy to eat her breakfast porridge… but it is supposed to be colder and snow next week. We are probably on the slow descent with her…but as long as she shows me some sparkle and seems comfortable, I will be here for her.

@Jealoushe

There is plenty of bashing and attacking and lets not forget obsessing happening.

The irony of that statement does not go unappreciated… bashing and attacking and obsessing in these threads has sadly come from everywhere.

@CurrentlyHorseless

When IM talked about a “changing tide” I think he was referring to a new dynamic within the thread in which silent LLPR supporters, or people who are not partisan supporters, but simply object to the “unjustifiable comments”, are starting to come out of the woodwork to express legitimate opinions they had been suppressing for fear of being attacked.

So how does that account for those of us who have not supported MB in any way and have not attacked LK, being trashed and sneered at for being “100% anti-LK” and other completely inaccurate comments and insults? No opinions being suppressed there - just facts. The tunnel vision and hypocrisy exhibited in these threads at times is astounding… and sad.

The “changing tide” seems to be more like “do as I say and not as I do”.

[hut-ho78]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@hut-ho78

@Inigo-montoya

No….we disagree. LK does not start posts. She responds to character assassination and then is blamed for being nasty. She’s in a lose/lose situation.
But what anyone reading these posts does see clearly is that there were just a few LK supporters here at one time….but now they’ve become an army unafraid of the abuse thrown on them from Mean Girls Inc.
It may be a cliche……but good is clearly winning out over evil here……and that’s bad news for you.

Agree. I’ve never seen LaLa start an argument, just jump in when the LaLa bashing went on too long. She jumps in pretty hard but can’t blame her. She also fights pretty fair, mainly just calling out actions and untruths. The PMs came long after amateur self proclaimed psychiatrists and people saying they are smarter than licensed lawyers and arguing with same making all kinds of claims and diagnoses.

Also, no one went to bed, they just started another topic called “Sidebar, Your Honor” that continues the same old stew.

I think MB made a series of unfortunate decisions and ruined his own life and nearly destroyed two others. From all accounts MB and VKB were quite the power couple and he had a very good life with her. Then somehow she was replaced with a young girlfriend who was then engaged to someone else within a year of MB’s arrest. Not a good trade for MB.

Without VKB to keep everything running smoothly in the background so he could be a star, something he acknowledged publicly for years, making a point of how she enabled him to train horses and give clinics by handling everything else, all the frustration of running a facility with young horses, trained horses, boarders, staff, maintenance, a freeze, etc. just seemed more than he could handle on his own. Instead of being able to rely on the new girlfriend and the person pinch hitting as barn manager, it seems like they just helped him make the worst decisions of his life. Didn’t keep it together long without VKB.

That LaLa is a fighter and survived and her boyfriend tackled a larger though older man with a gun he was firing saved MB from the worst possible result of the very worst decision.

I can’t imagine all the stress everyone is under with the trial coming up and knowing it has to be relived on the stand. The lawsuit against LE that was dismissed was chilling. No responsibility. No remorse. Just chilling.

It’s all so sad. It is good to see VKB, VK now, moving on with her life and teaching clinics and LaLa working hard and riding well. That must be physically very painful after two 9mm in the chest but the last ride by LaLa posted by RG looks awesome.

I guess people blame victims to convince themselves they are safe from the same horrible crime. People say it’s where someone is or what they were wearing so they can feel safe by not wearing that short skirt or being in that bar or getting in the car with that particular date. I guess it applies to this too, especially if it’s someone who speaks without filters. Then the victim is said to be way out there because if one can get shot just for being mouthy and upset then that hits too close to home.

I think there are a lot of people supporting LaLa. To comment though, seems to set off new rounds of other comments trying to justify positions and prior comments that are unjustifiable. Not sure it is helpful. Maybe so. Can’t imagine what it was like to come out of medically induced coma and read the social media.

Re bolded: I also think that there are — or may be — a lot of people supporting LLPR, but afraid to post, or afraid to state their opinion on the “unjustifiable comments” about her for fear of being attacked themselves.
When IM talked about a “changing tide” I think he was referring to a new dynamic within the thread in which silent LLPR supporters, or people who are not partisan supporters, but simply object to the “unjustifiable comments”, starting to come out of the woodwork to express legitimate opinions they had been suppressing for fear of being attacked.

Fear of being attacked or maybe fear of getting sucked into sidebars of how long a topic has been posted. Is “long before that” the difference between 12 hours and 24 hours or days or weeks or months? Or the origins of user names? Or making fun of someone’s horse when a poster described an unpleasant encounter with MB (it was a really nice horse too).

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@BrendaJane

I bet you didn’t
Just one of those things Lala posted. I think the mods deleted it and all posts that quoted that little piece of hostile insanity.

Poor Lala got shot at, be nice to her…and then such a humdinger pops up. Sure.

I didn’t understand it (still don’t), but I wasn’t offended by it, Brenda.

[Mersidoats]

@CurrentlyHorseless Look up the movie “Misery” or google “Misery Hobbling Scene” - it’s foul. Wishing for another person to go through that experience is pretty messed up.

[Angela_Freda]

Yes it was.
I recall because I commented on it, early, before my day got busy.

[MHM]

@hut-ho78

Also, no one went to bed, they just started another topic called “Sidebar, Your Honor” that continues the same old stew.

@hut-ho78

Fear of being attacked or maybe fear of getting sucked into sidebars of how long a topic has been posted.

You were the one who started the tangent on the subject of when the other thread started, even though your statement was factually incorrect.

[3PonyFarm]

@smoofox, I hope your mare is feeling better.

[MHM]

@3PonyFarm

@smoofox, I hope your mare is feeling better.

Ditto.

[Angela_Freda]

@BrendaJane

like being told they ought to get hobbled, Misery style?

Wait, what?

[eggbutt]

Well this is interesting!!

Parsippany settles decade-long dispute with former police captain for $1 million

[Knights_Mom]

@3PonyFarm

@smoofox, I hope your mare is feeling better.

Ditto.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Well this is interesting!!

https://www.dailyrecord.com/story/news/morris/2021/12/20/parsippany-nj-former-police-captain-settle-long-dispute/8968326002/

Police bad behavior is everywhere and all the time.

[Inigo-montoya]

Ok, I’ll bite.

How would you know about any matter before SS and that they found a particular complaint “appalling?” Is there a mole working at SS? Does this mole give you inside information? Hopefully, you’re not just making stuff up. As we all know SS is being carefully scrutinized by the USOPC and Congress and the discovery of a mole would be very bad for them. And someone making up lies about what SS did or did not do is pretty unhelpful as well.

[smoofox]

@3PonyFarm

@smoofox, I hope your mare is feeling better.

Thanks. The compromised senior members of our herd here are definitely showing their age of late… it is hard to watch your friends falter despite all your help and care… whether they be human or equine.

[3PonyFarm]

I loved you mentioning about the bell, years ago I worked with a racehorse mare that went blind. She was then used for breeding and her first foal wore a bell. Another mare was turned out with them and she was so kind with both of them. I watched her go to and bring the foal back to her mother once when the baby got too far away. So sweet!

[eggbutt]

Well, suppose I know the complainent. As I recall they were told it was a personal matter since it didn’t involve a minor. That’s one of the reasons several lost all respect for SS.

[eggbutt]

Nope. They said it was a “personal matter and didn’t involve minors”.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Nope. They said it was a “personal matter and didn’t involve minors”.

I suppose then someone who wanted a SS report done really bad might then choose to twist things in order to include minors into the situation so their report will go forward. That’s kind of yuck.