Barisone Jury Deliberation

[EADoug]

Heads up, I think they are getting ready to dismiss for the day.

[atl_hunter]

I also would love to see a Mistah Bilinkas make an appearance somewhere, pending the outcome of course

[Mondo]

Yeah, the camera keeps moving, but no longer on the seal…

[eggbutt]

Sounds like they are going home for the day (maybe?)

[MHM]

@EADoug

@MHM

Which felt more like five years. Maybe that’s why the ear witness lawyer was confused about the length of time.

Maybe he was the guy getting the weekly calls for the past 2.5 years… I’m SURE it felt like 4 if that was the case

Wow, do you think he was really their lawyer this whole time? If so, it probably felt more like 40.

[splitrockfarmnc]

“Mistah Bilinkas, yah cyant …[insert whatever it is Judge says he isn’t allowed to say or do]”

[Jealoushe]

I thought they could improve it if they acknowledged and were in deep therapy over time?

[EADoug]

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@EADoug

@MHM

Which felt more like five years. Maybe that’s why the ear witness lawyer was confused about the length of time.
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Maybe he was the guy getting the weekly calls for the past 2.5 years… I’m SURE it felt like 4 if that was the case

Wow, do you think he was really their lawyer this whole time? If so, it probably felt more like 40.

It sounded like he was a family friend (used her parent’s first names) in any case. I’m sure he’s gotten an ear full whether on retainer or not.

[MHM]

@atl_hunter

I also would love to see a Mistah Bilinkas make an appearance somewhere, pending the outcome of course

That would be fabulous. Three names, so one pony in each size so they don’t have to compete against each other. Lol.

[EADoug]

@Rowdy

They can’t. Your personality is your personality. It is hard wired. That’s why being diagnosed with oppositional defiant disorder and conduct disorder as a youngster or teen (before age 18) puts a lot of kids on the fast track to prison. Both ODD and CD are associated with higher rates of psychopathic traits and aggression.

Respectfully disagree - you can change behaviour and you can improve disordered thinking.

But only if the individual is working on this themselves. They have to WANT to change their behaviour and their thinking, and they have to WORK on changing, every day.

[MHM]

@EADoug

It sounded like he was a family friend (used her parent’s first names) in any case. I’m sure he’s gotten an ear full whether on retainer or not.

That’s true.

I certainly hope he was not getting an earful for free!

[EADoug]

Jury is entering. I’m sure to just be dismissed.

[Callista17]

Released for the day

[MHM]

Didn’t the jury foreman turn out to have the same last name as the judge? That was sort of a funny coincidence.

Especially since the judge did not get to pick him for once, as he forgot to do it on Monday.

[Rowdy]

I’m pretty sure bipolar disorder is a mood disorder. Your mother was very fortunate to find a treatment that worked for her.

Personality disorders are a whole other ballgame. https://www.verywellmind.com/personality-disorders-a2-425427

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@MorganSercu

Yes, but remember my (now) Sane Parent has BPD but was in therapy for YEARS prior to having my siblings and was WILLING & EAGER to change.

Very rare but it can be addressed, modified and even very much improved.

The other PDs though are far more difficult to shift, IMO.

But yes, the best way to deal with people with a PD is not at all or from afar. Boundaries are our friends. Fortify and defend them vigorously.

Agreed. I have two family members who are somewhere on the borderline spectrum. One also has narcissistic features. Or … is a narcissist with borderline features. She’s tried therapy off and on for years. Decades. As well as meds. And… she is who she is. And hadn’t ever made significant changes.

The other family member (the first ones daughter) definitely is somewhere on the spectrum. But she also has some mood issues. And has done therapy and meds over the years, and has really WANTED to have a better life. And she’s been very stable for years. And built a better life.

A key part of the puzzle? Learning boundaries with her own borderline/narcissistic mother. When the boundaries started, the healing started. At least for one family member.

[SherKaye]

They’re coming in the court!!

[SherKaye]

Judge in the court!!

[SherKaye]

Now he’s gone and stream down! What happened. He said good afternoon and it cut out.

[OntheFnce]

Jury is released for the day.