Barisone Jury Deliberation

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@ScaredOfHorses

I just can’t imagine they are not deadlocked since there were so few exhibits in this case. However, if that was the case, it seems like they would have told the judge by now.

Maybe Bob is right, they like the food.

@CurrentlyHorseless

She has never PMed me, but if she did, I would not respond.

She has been extremely civil in this thread; I’m just pointing out that the extreme civility is rather recently acquired.

Pardon the confusion, lots of pronouns. Which person are you talking about in these she references?

@FitzE

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

It’s almost 2:00 pm. Still… no verdict.

Anyone care to predict if we will get a verdict this afternoon? Or… do you think it will go until Friday?

I think it will go until Friday.

[eggbutt]

@Knights_Mom

"Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus"

False in one thing, false in everything

Another great dressage horse name!

[Sticky_Situation]

They’re off Friday … won’t be back til Wednesday if no verdict today

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Friday is a court holiday, and then the judge is busy so the next court day for deliberations would be Wednesday I believe.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

I was responding to the general situation that numerous posters write as if it is established that LK has committed perjury.

No, we post like it has been established that Bob lies, frequently. Maybe always, but for sure frequently.

LK has admitted that she lies on SM. Is that all you’re saying, that she lies on SM?

You’re not accusing her of having committed perjury?

I do not see that I said she committed perjury. So why are you asking?
I said Bob lies.
Which is a fact.
The word perjury does not appear there at all.

Now, the story in my head might be saying something different than what I asked/said here. But, I for sure did not use the word perjury here and you are not inside my head so…

[Djones]

Bingo

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

Friday is a court holiday, and then the judge is busy so the next court day for deliberations would be Wednesday I believe.

SERIOUSLY?!?

That’s crazy. They can take off until next Wednesday?!?!

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

It’s almost 2:00 pm. Still… no verdict.

Anyone care to predict if we will get a verdict this afternoon? Or… do you think it will go until Friday?

I think it will go until Friday.

If they don’t decide today they will not reconvene until next week (per someone in the courtroom).

[Fat_Dinah]

If they keep going past 4 p.m., a verdict today.
If they break at 4, either return for a verdict Wednesday.
Or, at 4, there’s going to be an indication the jurors are deadlocking on the insanity issue.

[Rel6]

Oh I understand - I mostly do civil litigation but I have had to draft jury verdict forms before for criminal trials and I don’t envy the complication of this one.

What surprised me was the lesser included of aggravated assault for RG as well because he wasn’t shot. Was he actually assaulted by MB at all? I thought he was the one doing the attacking post-shooting. But I admittedly don’t know the facts of this case as well as I get the law.

ETA: Read the statute for aggravated assault and makes more sense now as it covers the attempt to cause bodily harm as well in NJ.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

So given this timeline… do we expect the judge will keep them late tonight?

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Agree, I think it would be especially trying for the jurors who weren’t allowed to take notes and have to try to remember everything that’s gone on

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

I was responding to the general situation that numerous posters write as if it is established that LK has committed perjury.

No, we post like it has been established that Bob lies, frequently. Maybe always, but for sure frequently.

LK has admitted that she lies on SM. Is that all you’re saying, that she lies on SM?

You’re not accusing her of having committed perjury?

I do not see that I said she committed perjury. So why are you asking?
I said Bob lies.
Which is a fact.
The word perjury does not appear there at all.

Now, the story in my head might be saying something different than what I asked/said here. But, I for sure did not use the word perjury here and you are not inside my head so…

I said that numerous posters on the thread have asserted that she has committed perjury, not you necessarily.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re not accusing her of having committed perjury?

BTW, nice of you to ask instead of just telling the whole world that is what I said when that is not what I said, like you did earlier when you claimed I said something about wanting Bob dead.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I said that numerous posters on the thread have asserted that she has committed perjury, not you necessarily.

Oh, but you asked me, so you did kind of imply I said that, no?

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

So given this timeline… do we expect the judge will keep them late tonight?

In the planning hearings Taylor was concerned about Easter and Spring Break. Who knows what he might ask them to do. I believe the state thought it would be a quick verdict.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Fat_Dinah

If they keep going past 4 p.m., a verdict today.
If they break at 4, either return for a verdict Wednesday.
Or, at 4, there’s going to be an indication the jurors are deadlocking on the insanity issue.

Got it. This makes more sense to me. Thanks.

[cutter99]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@FitzE

Really? Stupid cockroaches is calling people out on drama? That’s scorched earth lashing out at an entire group of people.

Or were you brought up that that’s how you call people out on their nonsense. We don’t do it that way where I’m from.

I know, I know

I’ll let it go. I know they are just having a go at me for sport and I shouldn’t rise to the bait.

LOL. In other threads, I was terrified at the way you came at @Erinmeri, @RND, and later at me.

You’ve been very admirably civil in this thread, but I don’t think it’s because viciousness is just not how you do it “where you’re from”, or because of “how you were raised.”

Terrified??? Of @FitzE???

WOW!!! Has she threatened you like many of us here have been threatened by LK???

I bet not!!!

Yes. I was first shocked by how she attacked @erinmeri in a thread months ago. I was viciously attacked by FitzE in one of the December threads, and withdrew to watch from the sidelines as she then attacked @RND. I flagged the attacking posts for the mods at the time, so I’m not sure whether they’re still there.

As I recall I was attacked by both FitzE and DreadPirateRoberts. I also recall that DreadPirate Roberts claimed to not be an alter for anyone participating in the threads.

She has never PMed me, but if she did, I would not respond.

She has been extremely civil in this thread; I’m just pointing out that the extreme civility is rather recently acquired.

[Fat_Dinah]

As I have read the NJ statute, aggravated assault can b e found even if the defendant doesn’t fire the gun, just points it. The step down to assault here is related to the defendant’s diminished capacity rather than the results of his actions.

[rothmpp]

@MHM

Asked about Rob’s bill?!? What bill?

The bill that RG said under oath on the stand that he had never given to MB, per LK’s instructions?

Didn’t RG say under oath that he did “just enough” work to cover board for the extra horse(s)? That he did not want to get “ahead” of any bills? If those statements are true why would he be owed any money?