Barisone Jury Deliberation

[Rel6]

Yes! After I posted I looked at the statute out of curiosity and it covers the attempt to cause bodily injury.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

You’re not accusing her of having committed perjury?

BTW, nice of you to ask instead of just telling the whole world that is what I said when that is not what I said, like you did earlier when you claimed I said something about wanting Bob dead.

@CurrentlyHorseless

I said that numerous posters on the thread have asserted that she has committed perjury, not you necessarily.

Oh, but you asked me, so you did kind of imply I said that, no?

It wasn’t me who said anything about you posting that you wanted “Bob” dead. That was Rowdy.

I don’t remember exactly which posters have asserted that LK committed perjury. Therefore it was an honest question as to whether you were among that group.

On the other hand, you flatly asserted that I accused you of writing that you wanted LK dead, you didn’t just imply it with a question.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

On the other hand, you flatly asserted that I accused you of writing that you wanted LK dead, you didn’t just imply it with a question.

Sorry, you are right. It was Rowdy. Not you.
Would you prefer I edit or leave it and keep the apology here?

[Syrynx]

That’s what I was thinking. Maybe he’ll call them in and ask how close they are, then ask if they can finish tonight.

I know I’d mentioned it before but I really would not be able to remember much after 5 days “off” from deliberating.

[Sdel]

@Fat_Dinah

If the jury said no to both attempted murder and aggravated assault, it would never consider not guilty by insanity.

They could on the gun charge. I think that is what they are split on, rather than the attempted murder and lessers. Some people on the jury are probably of the “never a good enough reason” mindset, and so want him for the gun charges on principle, but there is not enough to meet the standards for the other charges without reasonable doubt.

[ekat]

Yes. He also testified later that he had an invoice to give MBfor his work but Bob wouldn’t let him because it would mess up “the plan.” No elaboration on what “the plan” was.

[Fat_Dinah]

I think that even if a struggle was proven to have occurred, Barisone would be guilty of assault because he introduced the gun into the situati on. That’s why Schellorn pointed out Barison used a gun, not a flower pot, because of the lethal nature of his response.

[MHM]

@ohnoO

Maybe I have the lawyer and the psychiatrist confused—both nicely dressed, grey haired men .

This is the psychiatrist, who testified on Wednesday.

This is the lawyer, who testified on Tuesday

And just for fun, this is Boyd Martin with his very becoming Olympic themed tie.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@rothmpp

@MHM

Asked about Rob’s bill?!? What bill?

The bill that RG said under oath on the stand that he had never given to MB, per LK’s instructions?

Didn’t RG say under oath that he did “just enough” work to cover board for the extra horse(s)? That he did not want to get “ahead” of any bills? If those statements are true why would he be owed any money?

Exactly.

[ekat]

I think I need to revisit Boyd’s testimony a few more times, just in case.

[Rel6]

That third guy is pretty good looking for an attorney

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@trubandloki

@CurrentlyHorseless

On the other hand, you flatly asserted that I accused you of writing that you wanted LK dead, you didn’t just imply it with a question.

Sorry, you are right. It was Rowdy. Not you.
Would you prefer I edit or leave it and keep the apology here?

No apology necessary, it’s perfectly understandable that we don’t always remember exactly who said what.

My point was that when I asked whether you were among the group who has claimed that LK committed perjury, it was an honest question, not a sneaky way of accusing you.

[Fat_Dinah]

But the gun charges require the “unlawful purpose” element. If he is not guilty of murder and assault, that element is not present.
Mere possession of the gun might be illegal, but it would have to be charged differently. I think possession wit hour a license, etc., would fall into a misdemeanor ar ea.

[MHM]

@rothmpp

Didn’t RG say under oath that he did “just enough” work to cover board for the extra horse(s)? That he did not want to get “ahead” of any bills? If those statements are true why would he be owed any money?

But that didn’t stop from preparing a bill for MB anyway, according to his testimony on the stand. But RG said LK told him not to give the bill to MB.

[cheval_convert]

Me, too.

[BrownDerby]

Small correction: The first picture is the psychologist not psychiatrist.

[Roser123]

@MHM

But that didn’t stop from preparing a bill for MB anyway, according to his testimony on the stand. But RG said LK told him not to give the bill to MB.

Maybe the bill RG was going to give him was for $432.12.
That definitely would have “ruined the whole plan”.

[EADoug]

@BrownDerby

Small correction: The first picture is the psychologist not psychiatrist.

No, that is indeed Dr. Simring, MD (Psychiatrist)

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@MHM

But that didn’t stop from preparing a bill for MB anyway, according to his testimony on the stand. But RG said LK told him not to give the bill to MB.

Well you can’t use how you turned the screws with respect to squatting and calling the BI, FM, and SS/DCPP, and leverage all of that stress and mess to squeeze MB for an absurd figure like $50 k … if you previously invoiced him for a far lower amount … can you?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Roser123

@MHM

But that didn’t stop from preparing a bill for MB anyway, according to his testimony on the stand. But RG said LK told him not to give the bill to MB.

Maybe the bill RG was going to give him was for $432.12.
That definitely would have “ruined the whole plan.”

Ha. We were posting the same train of thought simultaneously.