Barisone Jury Deliberation

[BrownDerby]

@EADoug

No, that is indeed Dr. Simring, MD (Psychiatrist)

Oh dear - I could have sworn…l am sorry about that.

Good luck, jurors.

[trubandloki]

I am trying to remember. I thought at one point the $50,000 number included something to do with the horse. Was it to cover board or something?

[MHM]

@Fat_Dinah

If they keep going past 4 p.m., a verdict today.

Possibly.

Or they could keep going around in circles for another two/four/six/whatever hours and then give up for the weekend.

[Sdel]

@Fat_Dinah

But the gun charges require the “unlawful purpose” element. If he is not guilty of murder and assault, that element is not present.

Hence why I think they are deadlocked. Some people can’t get over the idea that it’s legal to carry/use a gun for protection.

[pk1027]

In my case, after 2 days of deliberation it was clear we weren’t going to agree on one of the counts. We tried countless different methods of trying to sway and understand each other, exercises to try and hear the other side’s arguments, and we couldn’t get there. It would get pretty stressful and heated at moments and that when we would all stop deliberating and take a break (stand up, read, we even did a handmade wordle (since we didn’t have our phones)) and then regroup. We all didn’t want to come back on Monday (it was Friday) and decided to be hung on the one count, the judge was satisfied we tried our best and let us go.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@FitzE

Really? Stupid cockroaches is calling people out on drama? That’s scorched earth lashing out at an entire group of people.

Or were you brought up that that’s how you call people out on their nonsense. We don’t do it that way where I’m from.

I know, I know

I’ll let it go. I know they are just having a go at me for sport and I shouldn’t rise to the bait.

LOL. In other threads, I was terrified at the way you came at @Erinmeri, @RND, and later at me.

You’ve been very admirably civil in this thread, but I don’t think it’s because viciousness is just not how you do it “where you’re from”, or because of “how you were raised.”

Terrified??? Of @FitzE???

WOW!!! Has she threatened you like many of us here have been threatened by LK???

I bet not!!!

Yes. I was first shocked by how she attacked @erinmeri in a thread months ago. I was viciously attacked by FitzE in one of the December threads, and withdrew to watch from the sidelines as she then attacked @RND. I flagged the attacking posts for the mods at the time, so I’m not sure whether they’re still there.

As I recall I was attacked by both FitzE and DreadPirateRoberts. I also recall that DreadPirate Roberts claimed to not be an alter for anyone participating in the threads.

She has never PMed me, but if she did, I would not respond.

She has been extremely civil in this thread; I’m just pointing out that the extreme civility is rather recently acquired.

If what Fitz said to you was so “terrifying” then what on earth can be said to all the jabs at me? Threats to me? Accusations to me?

I remember YOU YOURSELF saying I should be sued/arrested for making accusations of libel or whatever when you were pedaling that nonsense!

Disingenuous. It’s all a game.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

I think that was the $40k for the horse of MBs that LK purchased that had health issues and it supposedly included that that the horse was to stay at the farm forever as it was the only home he had known.

[MHM]

@eggbutt

In the planning hearings Taylor was concerned about Easter and Spring Break. Who knows what he might ask them to do.

Yes, I remember in the hearings it sounded like the judge was concerned about the holiday plans of the jurors.

But apparently he is the one who has plans on Monday and Tuesday.

[Syrynx]

Somehow I don’t think this judge would be satisfied with anything other than a yes or no decision on each count.

I wonder if we’ll ever learn what is holding them up? I hope some of this information comes out in the 48 Hours episode.

[MHM]

@trubandloki

I am trying to remember. I thought at one point the $50,000 number included something to do with the horse. Was it to cover board or something?

Now imagine you’re trying to keep all those details straight without notes with the rest of somebody’s life in the balance.

Good luck, jurors, indeed.

[floppyammy]

I don’t know what I was expecting, but I am really surprised at no verdict thus far!

[deeh]

Stage or reality TV to my mind would be a perfect fit.

[Sdel]

I just want to point out…the testimony/impeachment of ED and RG sheds a whole new insight to LK’s privilege debate on the SS thread…

And the talk of suing SS and the promises of using those “recordings” to get MHG banned.

[ekat]

I don’t think anyone knows what the $50k is for, including the claimants.

Bob did say she paid MB $40k for one of his (glue factory) horses.

[rothmpp]

I understood that there was some sort of agreement between the parties - LK, RG, JK, MB, et al that RG would do the remodeling/rehab on the house and barn projects to offset the incredibly low board/training/housing that was being charged.

According to LK - she bought Jay-T for $40k. It was not outlined how/if she had already paid for him. She tried to sell it on the stand as a humanitarian gesture so that the horse could live out his days at the farm he’d been at for so long. It was not stated, that I remember, if that dollar amount was to include free board for the rest of his life.

[Christa_P]

I hope they can write stuff down in the jury room. We couldn’t take notes in court, but once deliberations started we had notepads, post-its, and a whiteboard to use in the jury room.

[Knights_Mom]

I think we will have a hung jury.

If they retry the case they will get a hung jury again.

[MHM]

@Roser123

@MHM

But that didn’t stop from preparing a bill for MB anyway, according to his testimony on the stand. But RG said LK told him not to give the bill to MB.

Maybe the bill RG was going to give him was for $432.12.
That definitely would have “ruined the whole plan”.

Is there a significance to that dollar amount? Or is it just a general estimate of what his labor had been worth over the previous four months?

[ake987]

Someone on camera.

[lazaret]

@rothmpp

She tried to sell it on the stand as a humanitarian gesture so that the horse could live out his days at the farm he’d been at for so long.

The irony being that horse is the one she has showed the most out of all of them. Hardly a nag with one foot in the grave…