And what time was that exactly. Today?
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You are not speaking for the jury. They had just two options: Guilty or NGRI. MB’s memory loss is the reason for the NGRI plea being the only option. After listening to all the testimony and seeing the level of lies and issues with the “victim”, the jury clearly knew MB did not belong in prison, their story wasn’t believable, and chose the only option that could keep him out.
The words of LK and RG spoke volumes, and the jury clearly disliked and didn’t trust their words. They are the only two people who really know what happened that day, and just the way LK immediately placed blame when dialing 911, saying “Michael Barisone shot me” says a different story but let’s place the blame on MB. There was shoddy police work, no actual evidence, just the word of two drug addicts with criminal records.
Had straight up NG been an option, MB would be a free man today.
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So in other words, you do not know what Jonathan Kanarek said before he was banned so you have no way of knowing that he did not provide spin or details. Whole posts were removed, and consider he has a history of dramatic long posts full of lies after court proceedings I am shocked that you would assume that did not happen this time…You are smarter than that.
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1000%
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See what happens when you go off script.
I wonder if the director is yelling “CUT” yet.
But I am just a horse of course
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Hey CH…
Some of your current comments do not really correspond with what you said in this past post.
In case you want to see it in real time so you know where to edit, here is a link
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I’m possibly going to get lambasted for this, and I’m no CH fan, but I think that quote is out of context.
Hence the “has” posted vs “I believe everything that IM posts”
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I haven’t caught up yet, but if the medical staff at Greystone can “cure” NPD and/or OCD, I have a few new patients for them.
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It is absolutely untrue that the jury did not have the option of straight NG.
Even though MB pled NGRI, the jury would have found him straight NG on all four counts if the prosecutor had failed to meet his burden of proof on the actus reus.
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Not lambasting you at all…
But I am curious, when did @CurrentlyHorseless decide to go from believing all posts that had been posted to only believing some?
Because that distinction says to me that there was an awareness that IM was not truthful. And if that is the case, then wouldn’t she not believe all prior posts? Wouldn’t that make her question all posts? It certainly would for me.
Or am I misreading something? One can certainly change their opinion, but in this instance I just see a creative use of qualifiers.
ETA: changed “they” to “she” and “them” to “her” to reflect CH’s preferred pronouns. I typically default to “they/them”.
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Yeah, cause no jury in the history of trials has ever gotten it wrong, so you’d just believe them if you had no memory. Are you aware of all the false convictions that happen in the courts? Should someone falsely convicted just decide to believe the jury over their own memory and what they know happened because that’s what the jury decided? That is among the dumbest things I have ever seen posted on COTH and that’s saying a lot.
ETA: Want an example? Willie Stokes comes to mind. He served 37 years in prison when the jury got it wrong.
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So. Many. Examples. Even one that I pointed out on these threads where the person had a rock solid alibi (was IN JAIL!!!) and was convicted nonetheless.
But they can keep playing their head movies…
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CH said, “I do believe everything that IM has posted”
I don’t know (and I do not want to speak for CH) what that was I reference to and it was back in 2022? So I don’t know if CH believed everything IM had posted re a certain event, or if CH still believes that now and it applies to all posts. It’s the “has” that made me question it and say that it might not still apply now. Or it might, I don’t know. It could’ve been taken out of context, or not.
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I think the context was as opposed to what LK had posted.
CH believed IM was telling the truth/not lying and if there was conflict they would believe IM over LK.
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My question is —Did anyone have, CH will ignore my question that was asked up thread on the difference between the grifters testimony?
Well step up if you are holding that ticket I got a bag of carrots for you.
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I get that. But if I say “I believe everything CC has said” and I never make clear that I no longer believe everything you say, then it is reasonable to assume that I still do. And if I only believe everything you said up to a point, then at some point you caused me to question you, so at that point shouldn’t I have retrospectively questioned it all? Ergo, it’s reasonable to say that “has said” statement still applies. You(g) don’t get to pick and choose, and if you do? That’s on you and makes your faith all the more questionable.
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Saving the bolded for later.
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Well, you know you and I are the same person… so, Obvs!
(ETA: on Twitter. In a certain Tweeter’s mind. “‘’Tis I, the Cantering Carrot” is forever etched in my memory and makes me laugh every time!)
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Speaking of movies, and rotting in jail.
There was a story that Larry David told on a talk show where a guy who was convicted of murder remembered that Larry David had been filming his show at a baseball game on the day of the crime, and this guy happened to be there and saw them filming near him.
So as he was rotting in jail, he got word to his lawyer that there should be video of him at that game on that day. And somehow they contacted Larry David, who agreed to let them look at all the film. And sure enough, there was the guy in the background of a scene on the day when he was supposed to be killing somebody somewhere else.
So I believe he got the conviction overturned and was let out of jail just because he happened to be at the ball game on the day when somebody was making a TV show at the ballpark.
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Oh, if only there was a recorder in someone’s pocket or someone hadn’t turned off the cameras….
Interesting that both actions involve the same person……
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