Barisone KROL this Friday, 5/26

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@hut-ho78

I don’t think the judge will allow much here. I hear federal courts don’t put up with the same posturing and courtroom shenanigans as state courts do.

I was wondering why the insurance companies want the trial in federal court and Deininger wants it in state court. New Jersey state court.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

In fact, the activity of CH and HH on the threads has always been a good barometer of the amount of K wailing and gnashing of teeth. I’d say they are pretty upset.

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

The new trial is only about MB and the insurance company. It is about the NGRI verdict and civil responsibility under the contracts with the insurance company. There is no blame apportionment because of a claim that someone drove him to it.

Your right. And he’s going to trot out every single text, email, FB post, PI investigation and recount every single incident of LK’s dirty laundry that he has access to in the furtherance of his claims that the situation falls under the terms of coverage.

For someone who rushed to accept long ago offered settlements to avoid doing just that in her own case……oh how much she must be wailing.

In fact, the activity of CH and HH on the threads has always been a good barometer of the amount of K wailing and gnashing of teeth. I’d say they are pretty upset.

I’ve always been amused that you think my decision to post or not post provides any clue whatsoever as to what the Kanareks are thinking.

[Djones]

@eggbutt

But they sure as heck LOVE evidence and, honey, there is plenty of evidence of what was done to Barisone. Sorta sounds like the predicament a former POTUS finds himself in. You can deflect, deny, play whataboutism, but facts and evidence count. She is her own worst enemy, just as he is.

I signed up for some former POTUS emails. The crazy talk, the lies, the name-calling, alternate facts… birds of a feather, no doubt.

[Warmblood1]

@smoofox

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

The same reason y’all are stalking her on YouTube, Facebook, instagram, and wherever else she posts. Why aren’t you riding or playing your piano?

This part of y’all does not stalk anyone anywhere. But I can understand why you would be confused and say incorrect things.

I also do not own a piano, cheap electronic player style or otherwise.

Same here - plus, I work 24/7 on a horse farm…I manage to sit down occasionally with a coffee and dare to turn on the computer! Shocking, I know. Or maybe I check things out at the end of a very long day with ice on my knee while soaking my old tired feet - I understand that is somehow deeply evil to some.

When I am out in the barn with a new foal or a bad colic at 3:00 a.m., I suspect that the posters who whine about how others post are snug in bed with nary a care in the world.
When I am out there pulling tansy and repairing fencelines in the evening when others are relaxing or have gone out for dinner… even when I feel like sh*t or the weather sucks - too bad, so sad… the work must be done and there are no excuses. Just keep going. It is all part of the job.

Sorry . No time for… what was it again? Oh yeah. Stalking. Plus - posting on public forums to rage and rant for all to see does not require anyone to “stalk”.

One would also think that if one was vehemently defending someone, one would actually check out what they are up to and not be deliberately turning a blind eye while pointing the finger at others incessantly - while actually doing what one is complaining about (i.e. posting about this mess).

I am inside for lunch right now… is that allowed? Can I sit down at the computer, pay some bills, check out COTH, FB, emails and what not? Do I need a permission slip from the self-appointed thread monitors?

HH has never worked in the horse industry in a processional capacity so you will have to excuse them for knowing so very little about it.

[KurPlexed]

It will be funny (in a "hehe maybe they will be homeless " kind of way) when the ins co gets all the discovery and sees who’s really behind this whole mess. Perhaps if they have to pay out to MB they will look to recover their losses from LK. Now that will be a “hehe” moment. They will be aware of any settlements she’s obtained, and will probably set their sights on freezing assets. “Hehe”

[hut-ho78]

@KarenK

@hut-ho78

If every person who fired a weapon unwisely and luckily injured not one was prosecuted, it would be a really overwhelmed court.

Responsible gun owners don’t shoot their firearms “unwisely”…only hot heads that don’t respect the weapon and should never own a gun do!

I actually agree with you. Also people who leave their vehicles unlocked with the weapons inside, especially in the city or suburbs with kids around. They are writing some laws to try to address some of this but I don’t know if they will go anywhere. This conversation probably belongs in CE.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

The new trial is only about MB and the insurance company. It is about the NGRI verdict and civil responsibility under the contracts with the insurance company. There is no blame apportionment because of a claim that someone drove him to it.

Your right. And he’s going to trot out every single text, email, FB post, PI investigation and recount every single incident of LK’s dirty laundry that he has access to in the furtherance of his claims that the situation falls under the terms of coverage.

For someone who rushed to accept long ago offered settlements to avoid doing just that in her own case……oh how much she must be wailing.

In fact, the activity of CH and HH on the threads has always been a good barometer of the amount of K wailing and gnashing of teeth. I’d say they are pretty upset.

I find it to be the opposite. When the bashing of all things Kanarek hit the stomach churning point, I noticed that is when CH and I come in with “enough is enough.”

[KarenK]

@hut-ho78

I actually agree with you

It’s hard not to agree on this one…so thank you.

[hut-ho78]

@trubandloki

@hut-ho78

If RG had pressed charges against LK, she would have had to answer for shooting at his bike, assuming she didn’t make that up too.

If LK had shot RG, she would have had to answer for that, especially if it was a fairly tight shot group fired at center of mass (double tap). It would be LK in prison or the institution.

Oh Hut, I am sorry to have to point out your lack of knowledge again, but somethings do require correcting when they are just so wrong.
Have you ever bothered to read the arrest record of Lauren Kanarek when it has been posted? I am guessing not.

I will start with your comment about Robert Guy Goodwin pressing charges. Robert Guy Goodwin did not have the ability to press charges. People do not press charges. The city/county/state/feds do.

On your other point, Lauren Kanarek was charged. (See my comment about reading her arrest record.)

Don’t be snide @trubandloki. I may get tired of looking stuff up for you.

Here you go. It’s complicated though. Maybe @ekat will help.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/pressing-charges-a-criminal-act.htm

[KurPlexed]

@hut-ho78

When the bashing of all things Kanarek hit the stomach churning point, I noticed that is when CH and I come in with “enough is enough.”

When will you and CH move over to YT, FB and Twitter? You’ve got your work cut out for you but you concentrate your efforts here. Strange. And “stomach turning point” is very subjective.

[SoCoPony]

Interesting that you have self appointed yourself and CH to do this.

But I am just a horse of course

[hut-ho78]

The state has the proportional fault in civil cases. The federal government does not.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

Don’t be snide @trubandloki. I may get tired of looking stuff up for you.

Here you go. It’s complicated though. Maybe @ekat will help.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-defense/criminal-offense/pressing-charges-a-criminal-act.htm

From your link:

“The prosecutor makes the final call on whether to press charges.”

That is the point @trubandloki was making, I believe. Rob Goodwin didn’t have the power to press charges.

Does that help?

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

The state has the proportional fault in civil cases. The federal government does not

This case (the insurance suit) has nothing to do with proportional fault, as it’s not a tort, it’s more comparable to a breach of contract.

[Sdel]

Seems the feeding frenzy to get the thread locked is going on in full force.

Best course is to ignore because we all know some just go in circles and read between lines that aren’t there.

[omare]

I would think the legal focus would be in whether he “intended” to shoot her–whether insane or not-you can be insane and know that you have a gun in your hand and you will cause harm if you aim and shoot. I suspect the court will not allow it to be relitigated whether he did it (or that she drove him to it), just whether his act was intention. For example in a knife welding case the court found that the person " acted intentionally in that he understood that he was wielding a knife, that he was striking a person in the head with the knife, and that striking a person with a knife was likely to cause that person harm. Accordingly, the attack was not an occurrence under the policies…"
(Caveat–this case is from 2006 in CA and who knows whether it is even still good law in that state–but just used to distinguish criminal intent vs intent under an insurance policy and they are not necessarily the same thing.)

[SoCoPony]

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

The state has the proportional fault in civil cases. The federal government does not

This case (the insurance suit) has nothing to do with proportional fault, as it’s not a tort, it’s more comparable to a breach of contract.

What’s your interpretation of why the insurance companies want it in federal court and Deininger wants it in NJ state court?

[Angela_Freda]

@SoCoPony

Interesting that you have self appointed yourself and CH to do this.

And apparently in an agreed, concerted effort…

@hut-ho78

When the bashing of all things Kanarek hit the stomach churning point, I noticed that is when CH and I come in with “enough is enough.”

… Interesting.

[BatCoach]

@hut-ho78

I find it to be the opposite. When the bashing of all things Kanarek hit the stomach churning point, I noticed that is when CH and I come in with “enough is enough.”

Thank you for your service
CoTH already has moderators. No need for you & CH to try to take up that mantle to suit your own desires & perspectives.