Barisone KROL this Friday, 5/26

[BrownDerby]

@smoofox

Just typing that out ^ and remembering it brought on a slow boil of anger.

Just reading that gave me chills. I’m sorry that revisiting LK’s behavior is giving you flashbacks.

[SpicyPRE]

@eggbutt

I’m looking forward to the so-called documentary she keeps spewing about

Self funded, I am betting!

[MHM]

@CanteringCarrot

I think if you’ve never experienced such a level of human evil and behavior(s), you just can’t fathom it.

I think that statement really applies to a lot of the behavior that we’ve heard about from the K Klan and their circle. Most of us (luckily) just have no experience whatsoever in dealing with such dirtbags. Thank goodness.

The family arrest record alone is quite a shocker in itself. Never mind the rest of it.

I believe there is at least one family member who has an arrest record that spans multiple pages on the New Jersey Court website. Who does that??

[BrownDerby]

Perhaps science fiction/fantasy?

We still have a Blockbuster box in our town. It’s like a Freege or a Little Library. Take one, bring one.

[smoofox]

@BrownDerby

@smoofox

Just typing that out ^ and remembering it brought on a slow boil of anger.

Just reading that gave me chills. I’m sorry that revisiting LK’s behavior is giving you flashbacks.

It is good in a way. Cathartic. And that is still but the tip of the iceberg.

In the end, TBFH was forced out. But not without more drama and nonsense.
The BO had enough and sold that big barn and arena after another bizarre episode (but nothing like TBFH) with the next trainer/barn manager - never again.

All my friends and boarders were screwed over by the new owners and left when they could not pay triple the board as well as extra (so basically, quadruple the board) for mandatory lessons.

I still look up the hill at the arena lights at night and remember all the good times and fun and laughter… prior to TBFH’s campaign. The barbecues… the parties… the support at local shows… hosting clinics. Good horses and good people.

Life goes on… but you never forget and I will never forgive that kind of cruelty and bullying.

[BrownDerby]

FWIW, a long-gone poster named Sid had a similar experience with a psychopath at their barn in VA. S/he described it in the original Woman Shot thread. In that case, as with Lauren’s, both parents were heavy enablers and despite multiple arrests nothing ever came of them.

[Knights_Mom]

@smoofox

@Aurora58

You pick and choose what you want to fit your narrative then fill in details as if fact. What’s amazing to me is how biased you are defending LK to the death without ever considering what MB and crew were having to deal with and tossing that all off as nothing that stressful.

Exactly right. Having been through something very similar - the stress and anxiety is off the chart. You know that person is BSC and will do almost anything… sleep is rare… you have boarders stressed and upset and in tears… you have the BO not quite understanding what an emergency situation it was (well, she was away for many months so just had our Trainer B*tch From Hell’s fawning phone calls to go by - that were all lies). Threats, screaming tantrums, more threats… finding TBFH down at the smaller barn late at night where she had no business being. She claimed she was installing hidden microphones so she could hear what we were saying about her down here as well as up at the big barn… but that was another lie. The cameras that were then installed down at this end of the property were very real - and often captured her skulking around at 2 a.m.

The horses in the big barn started to show the effects of the tense atmosphere in a variety of ways. Odd little anxious behaviors. Colics.

One boarder who had just come back from a trail ride with her horse was verbally attacked by TBFH - who claimed she had seen her whipping said horse out on the trail and laughing about it as she beat him for no reason. A) TBFH had never been out on those trails B) boarder would never do that and had boarded there for almost 20 years with her horses and C) TBFH was/is a lying sack of parrot droppings. The boarder had enough and hauled out of there in an hour… rushing to get her trailer hooked and loaded. TBFH stood there and laughed while a couple of us went after her about what an a**hole she was and begged that amazing long term boarder to stay.

This kind of nonsense went on, in our case, for almost a year and a half? Slowly escalating all the while. Anyone who can be dismissive and flippant about that kind of a situation - like LK was revelling in… has obviously never had to endure that and does not have a clue.

I would not wish that on anyone - or their horses.

ETA: My co-worker at that time became very sick and wound up in ICU and died. Her apartment was up at that big barn (mine is down here at the smaller one) and I firmly believe that the stress hastened her end. When my friend was in a coma in the ICU, I caught TBFH in her little apartment going through her drawers and paperwork.
That b*tch was looking for money and a will and just laughed at me when I ordered her out of there. I had our handyman get up there that afternoon and put a big ass padlock on the door. TBFH just smirked and said she could simply break a window…

Just typing that out ^ and remembering it brought on a slow boil of anger.

I read stuff like this and I get so angry at the perp I could just spit.

[BatCoach]

It is very obvious that @CurrentlyHorseless has never owned/operated a barn, owned an expensive sport horse, or been paid to care for a clients expensive sport horse.

Lauren Kanarek and Robert Goodwin’s reign of terror didn’t stop at threatening Michael,MHG, working students, and boarders - their behavior also targeted horses that cost more than LK could ever coax her “benefactor” to pay for.

Remember that RC felt the need to sleep outside her horses stall. Michaels clients were getting concerned that LK and RG would harm their horses. There is not greater cause of stress to a true horseman (MB) than something/some monster trying to harm his horses and the horses put in his care.

Caring for horses 24/7 is stressful enough. Those of us who have run a barn know it can be a delicate balance to keep things running smoothly. Add in high dollar competition horses and a busy travel schedule and you have more factors to balance, more vigilance to keep every horse happy and healthy. I’m convinced CH has never worked in, or owned a horse in that situation because if she had, she would have zero empathy for LK. The buck stops when you start messing with animals and kids. Period.

[Sdel]

@BatCoach

Remember that RC felt the need to sleep outside her horses stall.

Oh, this reminds me of another LK lie.

She implied here that RC “always” slept in front of the horse’s stall when she came to visit.

In the trial, RC testified that Michael asked her to sleep in front of the stall for that visit. They were clearly afraid of what Lauren Kanarek or Robert Goodwin would do to the horse during one of their middle of the night camera retrieval sessions.

[Knights_Mom]

@BatCoach

It is very obvious that @CurrentlyHorseless has never owned/operated a barn, owned an expensive sport horse, or been paid to care for a clients expensive sport horse.

Lauren Kanarek and Robert Goodwin’s reign of terror didn’t stop at threatening Michael,MHG, working students, and boarders - their behavior also targeted horses that cost more than LK could ever coax her “benefactor” to pay for.

Remember that RC felt the need to sleep outside her horses stall. Michaels clients were getting concerned that LK and RG would harm their horses. There is not greater cause of stress to a true horseman (MB) than something/some monster trying to harm his horses and the horses put in his care.

Caring for horses 24/7 is stressful enough. Those of us who have run a barn know it can be a delicate balance to keep things running smoothly. Add in high dollar competition horses and a busy travel schedule and you have more factors to balance, more vigilance to keep every horse happy and healthy. I’m convinced CH has never worked in, or owned a horse in that situation because if she had, she would have zero empathy for LK. The buck stops when you start messing with animals and kids. Period.

I have no doubt LK would hurt a horse if she felt compelled to when that horse would be some sort of competition against one of hers.

My opinion. And a atrong one. I’ll never believe otherwise. If you target kids, you’ll target horses.

[Unfforgettable]

Mr. Spock also deals in LOGIC.

[eggbutt]

@McGurk

I’m going to take a contrary/Devil’s Advocate opinion here.

I, for one, am very grateful for @CurrentlyHorseless, @hut-ho78 and the other Kanarek supporters.

Look what happened over the holiday weekend when they weren’t posting. The thread practically died, there were hardly any new posts or topics of discussion. Since the title of the thread is the 5/26 Krol hearing, there wouldn’t be much new to talk about without the input of CH, HH and friends.

So by continuing to be obtuse, misrepresenting what other people say, stating fiction and outright fantasy as fact, relitigating the trial and posting weird, irrelevant digressions about the participant’s personal lives, they keep these threads alive. Which means we all get the opportunity, again and again, to post about the Kanarek’s reprehensible behavior. We just wouldn’t get as visible a billboard or as many views without CH and friends, and we wouldn’t have a medium to keep the focus on the Kanareks.

Oh, I know, they’re really trying to get the threads closed to shut us up. But they’re doing a spectacularly bad job at it, so ultimately, they’re doing us a big favor by giving us a podium and an audience.

So thank you, CH, and keep up the good work!

This!!! ^^

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Knights_Mom

I have no doubt LK would hurt a horse if she felt compelled to when that horse would be some sort of competition against one of hers.

Would this be a violation of the proposed FEI rules on SM?

KM probably not an FEI rider, so she couldn’t be sanctioned even if it were.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

And it didn’t take very long for them to all become convinced that he was insane at the time and the cause of that insanity was LK.

I disagree. The jury reached a consensus that he was insane, but having done that goes not establish the cause of the insanity.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

I have no doubt LK would hurt a horse if she felt compelled to when that horse would be some sort of competition against one of hers.

Would this be a violation of the proposed FEI rules on SM?

KM probably not an FEI rider, so she couldn’t be sanctioned even if it were.

My opinion and labeled as such. As there is no rule, there is no violation. But I’m not the one you need concern yourself with. Your concern should be the aspiring FEI rider and empress of all posted violations, Lauren Kanarek.

[Ghazzu]

LK entirely aside, that FEI proposal is way over the top, IMHO.
Couldn’t cut and paste from website, so here’s a screen cap:

I’m in no danger of becoming an FEI competitor, but no way in hell would I grant them unrestricted access to all my SM and other info.

[eggbutt]

@trubandloki, how was the show??

[trubandloki]

@eggbutt

@trubandloki, how was the show??

Thank you for asking.

I suck and I did not end up going.

Lots of things came up in life this week and I just did not think it was fair to my horse to make her deal with my stress.

Hopefully next time.

[MorganSercu]

If you scroll down there are others items from the same “collection” (owner has died is my guess). It’s awful but was cherished.

[BrownDerby]

I really appreciate chestnutmarebeware 's contribution. I’ve bid on an old farrier’s tutorial.