Barisone KROL this Friday, 5/26

[DownYonder]

@EmilyM

@ohnoO

But, but she was so sore from her ride the day before!

Do you know how to fix that? Ride the next day—Duh!

If i never rode when I was sore I’d never ride.

Roger that!

[MorganSercu]

Since she’s not a member, are we free to speculate on Lauren Shay Kanarek’s various diagnoses?

Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

I don’t see any comparison. Successful rider, business owner, with decades of hard work, history of paying his bills, many people who can testify to his being a decent man - generous & kind to many - despite not being to everyone’s liking versus Lauren Kanarek who has achieved exactly what despite all the benefits of an upper middle class family? I want to take note that yes, Michael Barisone was divorced. It was probably not pleasant for either of them but no evidence that he stopped runnin…

[DownYonder]

Good job, Mr. D. I certainly hope those insurance companies realize it will be cheaper for them in the long run to settle with MB rather than to continue their denial of responsibility.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

The act was proven in court beyond a shadow of doubt.

A jury verdict is not proof. Otherwise having a conviction overturned would be an impossibility. But, we have convictions overturned all the time. The state only ever had circumstantial evidence and the judge prevented the jury from seeing any evidence that may have painted a different picture than the state wanted of what happened. They essentially attempted to railroaded the jury into a specific decision.

Convictions are overturned when there was a procedural error, like an incorrect ruling by the judge, or juror misconduct, or new evidence comes to light. Often the case is then retried.

Barisone was not convicted. He received a fair trial with adequate legal representation, and the jury agreed with what he pled — NGRI. That’s why he can’t appeal and the verdict cannot be overturned— he pled NGRI and the jury agreed.

[SoCoPony]

[DownYonder]

@eggbutt

You really can’t help yourself, can you? You know your post is inaccurate but you keep up the narrative for your idols. Thank God there were intelligent, rational people on that jury.

Really, the existence of folks like HH and CH adds weight to the theory that the jury verdict was a compromise between folks who wanted to go straight “Not Guilty” on all counts and folks who were thinking “Guilty.” And with all the evidence about how LK had tormented MB, plotted and acted to destroy his reputation and business and career and personal relationships AND sanity - the jury was convinced that he was in fact “insane” at the time of the shooting. So NGRI was the only unanimous conclusion the jury could find.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

Good job, Mr. D. I certainly hope those insurance companies realize it will be cheaper for them in the long run to settle with MB rather than to continue their denial of responsibility.

It is not cheaper for the insurance companies to settle. If they settle Barisone’s case, they’ll be setting a precedent that they’ll roll over and pay out when anyone else sues them for not providing defense. It’s worth it to them to spend millions to avoid setting a bad precedent.

MB was delusional on the issue of whether he was in physical danger from LK. That’s different from being delusional as to whether shooting her would be expected to cause injury.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@eggbutt

You really can’t help yourself, can you? You know your post is inaccurate but you keep up the narrative for your idols. Thank God there were intelligent, rational people on that jury.

Really, the existence of folks like HH and CH adds weight to the theory that the jury verdict was a compromise between folks who wanted to go straight “Not Guilty” on all counts and folks who were thinking “Guilty.” And with all the evidence about how LK had tormented MB, plotted and acted to destroy his reputation and business and career and personal relationships AND sanity - the jury was convinced that he was in fact “insane” at the time of the shooting. So NGRI was the only unanimous conclusion the jury could find.

NGRI is a completely illogical and incorrect verdict if the jury thought he was insane but did not shoot her.

If the jury thought he hadn’t shot her, they would never have even gotten to consideration of insanity.

If the jury could not reach a unanimous verdict, they would have been a hung jury.

[MorganSercu]

Someone sneaking around at night, doing who knows what within the barn or the house on the property, to the point that MB was up patrolling and hired someone to do it too - clearly he was worried that they were physically dangerous to everyone and everything on that farm.

The children were sent away. Working students left/were sent away. MHG asked her father/parents to be there in person - all because Lauren Shay Kanarek didn’t feel she was getting whatever it is she felt she deserved, but wouldn’t GO AWAY.

Not happy with a trainer? Leave.

Plotting their downfall and making everyone on the farm unhappy or frightened are the actions of someone with long-standing mental health issues that likely pre-dated her illegal drug use.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@MorganSercu

Someone sneaking around at night, doing who knows what within the barn or the house on the property, to the point that MB was up patrolling and hired someone to do it too - clearly he was worried that they were physically dangerous to everyone and everything on that farm.

The children were sent away. Working students left/were sent away. MHG asked her father/parents to be there in person - all because Lauren Shay Kanarek didn’t feel she was getting whatever it is she felt she deserved, but wouldn’t GO AWAY.

Not happy with a trainer? Leave.

Plotting their downfall and making everyone on the farm unhappy or frightened are the actions of someone with long-standing mental health issues that likely pre-dated her illegal drug use.

Not happy with a trainer? Leave.

Not happy with a client? End the training relationship. Evict if necessary. Don’t shoot.

[DownYonder]

@Ambitious_Kate

@hut-ho78 is abusing the board by twisting comments to mean something they don’t. She’s bullying the board by by threatening to accuse us of something we didnt do. She feels threatened because we are standing up to her and the Kanarek bullies.

Sounds just like someone else we know…

[MorganSercu]

Lauren Shay Kanarek was already unhappy and had been for months. She should have left rather than stirring up trouble. Who skulks around at night, breaks into a private office, records people having conversations?

I hope those illegal recordings she made of MB and associates, that are now in MB’s possession and his to use as he sees fit, make an appearance in any media deals he makes now and in the future. Ditto for the texts between Jonathan Kanarek, Lauren Kanarek and Robert Goodwin that he now legally owns.

[SoCoPony]

Looks like the floor show is about to get started.
I hope everyone has held onto their 2 drink minimum tickets.

But I am just a horse of course

[DownYonder]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

Really, the existence of folks like HH and CH adds weight to the theory that the jury verdict was a compromise between folks who wanted to go straight “Not Guilty” on all counts and folks who were thinking “Guilty.” And with all the evidence about how LK had tormented MB, plotted and acted to destroy his reputation and business and career and personal relationships AND sanity - the jury was convinced that he was in fact “insane” at the time of the shooting. So NGRI was the only unanimous conclusion the jury could find.

NGRI is a completely illogical and incorrect verdict if the jury thought he was insane but did not shoot her.

If the jury thought he hadn’t shot her, they would never have even gotten to consideration of insanity.

If the jury could not reach a unanimous verdict, they would have been a hung jury.

So there were some who thought NG, and some who thought G. And neither side could persuade the other side to think otherwise. But they all agreed “insane” - and I’m betting that the majority of them also understood the “character” of the state’s star witnesses, and understood the nature and scope of her actions to cause MB’s descent into insanity. So because the verdict had to be unanimous and neither side wanted to budge on their decision, they compromised on NGRI.

Sorry (not sorry) that verdict disappointed you and your higher-ups.

[DownYonder]

@MorganSercu

someone with long-standing mental health issues that likely pre-dated her illegal drug use.

[Kitty64]

I can’t even believe you typed this out. Or maybe I do, considering everything else you get wrong on this forum.

[BrownDerby]

@SoCoPony

Looks like the floor show is about to get started.
I hope everyone has held onto their 2 drink minimum tickets.

I heard that Wayland and Madame, and Triumph the Insult Dog are warming up in the Green Room.

[SoCoPony]

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@CurrentlyHorseless

@DownYonder

Really, the existence of folks like HH and CH adds weight to the theory that the jury verdict was a compromise between folks who wanted to go straight “Not Guilty” on all counts and folks who were thinking “Guilty.” And with all the evidence about how LK had tormented MB, plotted and acted to destroy his reputation and business and career and personal relationships AND sanity - the jury was convinced that he was in fact “insane” at the time of the shooting. So NGRI was the only unanimous conclusion the jury could find.

NGRI is a completely illogical and incorrect verdict if the jury thought he was insane but did not shoot her.

If the jury thought he hadn’t shot her, they would never have even gotten to consideration of insanity.

If the jury could not reach a unanimous verdict, they would have been a hung jury.

So there were some who thought NG, and some who thought G. And neither side could persuade the other side to think otherwise. But they all agreed “insane” - and I’m betting that the majority of them also understood the “character” of the state’s star witnesses, and understood the nature and scope of her actions to cause MB’s descent into insanity. So because the verdict had to be unanimous and neither side wanted to budge on their decision, they compromised on NGRI.

Sorry (not sorry) that verdict disappointed you and your higher-ups.

The verdict did not disappoint me at all. I think it was the correct verdict. He shot her but is not criminally responsible due to the insanity.

[Sdel]

@Kitty64

I can’t even believe you typed this out. Or maybe I do, considering everything else you get wrong on this forum.

I know. I mean, that was Deininger citing case law…which means it’s something that has already been decided. And apparently already in Barisone’s favor. Such sour grapes.