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The first rule of the alleged Morris county legal community swingers club, is YOU DO NOT TALK about the alleged Morris county legal community swingers club.

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Yes, this! Her mother posted twice on the forum in December 2021 (yes, she outed herself). She posted about love and forgiveness.

It is speculated that another poster was her father. This individual claimed to know everything and spoke with all the attorneys, etc. They frequently defended Lauren and also advised that “all would be revealed”. This poster has disappeared except for the random login.

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Exactly!! Because of MB’s inability to recall anything prevented the defense from entering all sorts of evidence because he couldn’t testify about it.

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I am not getting why the LK fangirl side seems to want to say that MB is lying about not remembering. There was a great post earlier in this thread about this very subject, the short version of which is, remembering would have worked far better for him. Why in the world do you (general people who are insisting he is lying about that) feel he is saying he does not remember otherwise?

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Been a crazy day at the office… no news yet I take it?

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  1. They are trying to use his choice not to testify in his own defense against him.

  2. They have decided that the concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty shouldn’t apply to MB. Because they are irritated when arguing with COTH forum participants. So… instead… they continue to pretend that MB should have taken the stand to prove that he was not guilty.

*** Note. Some of the LK fan girl side are lawyers, or knowledgeable about law. So… they tiptoe up to these two arguments when debating this issue, but don’t quite explicitly voice these two arguments. Because… they are invalid arguments. They seem to believe that non lawyers are too ignorant to understand how this sort of tactic works in a debate. :smirk:

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Nothing other than the jury asked for dates that the various doctors spoke with MB. So the live stream came back on for us to watch the court struggle to extract that from the testimony.

Oh, and they also asked if they could take notes and Judge said no.

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Well, I don’t think he’s malingering and I’m not an LK fangirl, but from a disinterested perspective I can see one scenario where he might prefer to say he doesn’t remember: if he did in fact drive there to shoot them in cold blood. Remembering only works better for him if there was a struggle or some other extenuating circumstances that could have helped his self-defense claim, if he remembered it. I’m guessing that the people who think he is lying also think he drove there with the purpose of shooting them, and not in a delusional state.

A lot of people find it easier to say they don’t recall than to admit to distasteful or criminal behavior on their part…I think there were plenty of examples of this during the trial, ahem.

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@anon6923113, I would like your post more than once if I could.

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I’ve said more than once I believe it’s possible he doesn’t remember the event. It came out in testimony that feigning a loss of memory is common.

I think his unkempt appearance is likely purposeful by the defense. Dr Schlesinger testified he was neatly dressed and alert when he interviewed him.

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Thank you for the update!

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I hear you. I’ve thought about what you are saying. But Here’s the thing.

IF he was cold blooded enough to intentionally drive there and shoot them without provocation, in the way LK and RG described (speaking softly and ‘luring’ them from the porch, before just shooting LK point blank in the chest - Boom! Boom! )

THEN he’s cold blooded enough to get on the stand, and testify that there was a struggle and they jumped him first, or that the dog rushed out and bit him, or that he brought the gun out of fear of the dog, and then fired when he thought he saw LK pull out a gun of her own… whatever. He could have made up any number of stories.

Any of those stories would have helped the case and have allowed them to try for self defense.

He didn’t do that though.

:woman_shrugging:

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It’s the only friendly (sort of) response I get from @MHM except for one thank you. I think my typing errors provide her comic relief. LOL!

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Not to mention would have been believable, plausible.

I saw him on Colbert, he’s not a great actor.

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I’m sure that wasn’t an accident.

I can’t tell you how many times I have asked my horse professional friends…do you have a contract? What does the contract say? They never have them, no signed agreements, nothing. It’s ridiculous for equine professionals to run their businesses and lives this way. It’s easy to even make your own. I just don’t get it.

I recently sold a horse on a payment plan, and we have a contract that lays out every thing you can imagine. It was super easy to do and now neither of us have to worry. I truly don’t understand operating a business this way.

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Is there a link for entire closing arguments? I can’t seem to find on L&C and the Court TV link doesn’t seem continuous - breaking for commercials and Depp/Heard case updates… I wasn’t able to listen last week.

That same argument can be made about the non existent video. It could show a physical struggle for the gun. Or it could show Barisone immediately pointing it and firing.
Does he really remember? No proof one way or the other, just expert opinions.

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This link has a list of all the videos. I believe it’s the first one titled Day 10 Charge conference. The first part should be the closing arguments.

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I think the important piece is “Prior to opening statements” (bolding mine). The way it reads is that note-taking must be decided ahead of time. Since it was either not requested or judge declined to permit it, they can’t take notes now.

Can anyone hear what the current jury inquiry is? I can barely hear Shellhorn but not much else. Thanks.