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@Knights_Mom

@Fiesta01

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@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@KurPlexed

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could have ended up with 3X the amount alledged to be owed to RG as an unlicensed contractor if RG had tried to get paid formally.

Who the he’ll has the time or desire to fight a broke crackhead in court? Be real

Seriously! Let’s be real. MB and the broke crackhead were never going to go to court over the $30,000 to $50,000 of repairs RG never actually did. (But that LK REPEATEDLY claimed RG was owed compensation for).

MB didn’t have any reason to go to court against a broke, unlicensed drug addict… because RG never invoiced him. Remember? And there was fuzziness as to what the actual agreement even was. And the work in the farmhouse that was done was mainly tiling, and according to Michael McGrain’s testimony, MM did 70-80 % of that work, and MB purchased all materials.

But RG? Why the heck would he want to go to court?!? He hadn’t done anywhere close to a meaningful amount of work. He’d never invoiced Michael. The value of RGs work was supposedly bartered for board for an additional 1-2 horses for a few months. So a few thousand each month, for 2-3 months.

Bottom line… I have a hard time believing RG was owed ANY money in relation to work he had done, above and beyond that which was bartered for LKs extra horse’s board expenses. It was always a straight up shakedown. And RG was going to squat in that farmhouse until MB paid. Because RG was actively using drugs that summer, and had no other employment, and several thousand in easy cash? That would be ideal for him.

Oh. Ok. I didn’t know you were there and had all these details.

[Knights_Mom]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

Are you available for hire, seriously ! That’s quite the impressive accomplishment. Well done

LOL thank you!!

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@Knights_Mom

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@Knights_Mom

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@KurPlexed

Oh it just occurred to me and I’m prob slow to this but I bet MB got a check from the ins Co for 50k. That’s why RG thought he was entitled to 50k. People like that can’t help but to count your money.

Water damage from a pipe break could easily be over $100,000.

But was this particular damage $100K to fix or are you just throwing out numbers to win a debate?

Are we debating? I’m not. We had a lot of ice damage here last year. We were lucky. Our neighbor in a similar home had over $100,000. Houses all over the neighborhood were uninhabitable. People ran out of contractors. People did their own work. People were ripped off. People had to wait until contractors finished one house and went to another. There were big containers in driveways for months. Our area wasn’t hit as hard as other areas in the state. It was a mess.

But was MBs damage $100K?

No idea. I said water damage from a pipe break could be easily over $100,000, not that MB’s house had that damage.

[Knights_Mom]

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@Knights_Mom

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@Knights_Mom

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@KurPlexed

Oh it just occurred to me and I’m prob slow to this but I bet MB got a check from the ins Co for 50k. That’s why RG thought he was entitled to 50k. People like that can’t help but to count your money.

Water damage from a pipe break could easily be over $100,000.

But was this particular damage $100K to fix or are you just throwing out numbers to win a debate?

Are we debating? I’m not. We had a lot of ice damage here last year. We were lucky. Our neighbor in a similar home had over $100,000. Houses all over the neighborhood were uninhabitable. People ran out of contractors. People did their own work. People were ripped off. People had to wait until contractors finished one house and went to another. There were big containers in driveways for months. Our area wasn’t hit as hard as other areas in the state. It was a mess.

But was MBs damage $100K?

No idea. I said water damage from a pipe break could be easily over $100,000, not that MB’s house had that damage.

So then your initial point on expense meant nothing. Got it.

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That’s right. @Kurplexed had a theory that the insurance check was for $50,000 and I responded with the damage could easily have been $100,000.

You, once again, chose to jump in half cocked and got nowhere. It was and is, a hypothetical conversation.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

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That’s right. @Kurplexed had a theory that the insurance check was for $50,000 and I responded with the damage could easily have been $100,000.

You, once again, chose to jump in half cocked and got nowhere. It was and is, a hypothetical conversation.

Oh. So hypothetical conversations about the dollar amounts involved in certain types of work are ok now?

Gee. I thought we were required to “be there” and “know all the details” before attempting to make these discussion points.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

Just like the hypothetical barn violations they cited

[Angela_Freda]

you’d think if RG had an invoice documenting the owed $50k, which RG said he wanted to give to Michael so it must exist… the court would have that?
I mean it would be easy to prove the work was done, to that amount right?

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@ScaredOfHorses

And why was MB’s phone on that table? Something is up with that part of their story.

Yup, its very unusual. Also, the first officer testified that MB and RG were to just the left of the medical bags (photo of crime scene) and LK was positioned where the medical bags are. How, then did RG and LK’s phones end up on top of one another on the umbrella stand? That’s at least 3-5 feet away from MB, RG, and LK.

Also, back to where MB was standing - if MB wasn’t next to the awning, in order to be behind the bush he would have to have positioned himself between the two chairs, the table and the bush. That’s a very weird spot to put yourself in. Given the height of the bush, unless he was at the very very edge (again contradicts all testimony), how could RG have seen the gun? That bush is tall and wide. I’m pretty sure its at least as tall as I am. And yet somehow RG saw MB fire the gun at what is chest height for LK.

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@Angela_Freda

you’d think if RG had an invoice documenting the owed $50k, which RG said he wanted to give to Michael so it must exist… the court would have that?
I mean it would be easy to prove the work was done, to that amount right?

I thought RG had made his own LLC at the urging of LK….

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As I recall, RG said he only “worked” when he wanted to… to help pay off board. When he thought he had done enough, he just stopped. LK was the one who was howling about $50,000? All over this forum?

Someone tell me what RG’s actual paying job was again… that did not rely on LK’s money… I seem to have missed that… /s

I continue to be gobsmacked how so many excuses are made for this pair… they must never be held accountable for anything… and how at some points I apparently was following a completely different trial…

[MHM]

@Knights_Mom

Don’t try and play it off as a favor. Won’t work.

Were it not for the acts to aid in extortion no one would have been displaced into the barn.

If no one was displaced into the barn then no violations would exist.

As to the dryer one person saying “hey the dryer is getting too hot” would have had a Home Depot delivery of a new dryer in a day or two.

Somehow LK/RG did not feel the need to call the fire marshal any time in the previous year or so.

It was only when they were looking for yet another way to lash out at MB.

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[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Angela_Freda

you’d think if RG had an invoice documenting the owed $50k, which RG said he wanted to give to Michael so it must exist… the court would have that?
I mean it would be easy to prove the work was done, to that amount right?

They must have had some system they (MB and RG) were using to track the dollar value of the work RG was doing in exchange for LKs extra horses’ board. I thought she added 1 horse (over and above the agreement) in May or June. Then bought one from MB… but she was never going to have to pay Board on that horse (a very sketchy sounding arrangement). Then… another horse was added in June or July? And by August, it meant she was keeping 5 horses at MBs?

If it’s $2500 per month, per horse, to board there… by my math, RG would have had to perform around $7500 in work, at a minimum, by the end of July to cover LKs extra board expenses.

I could see that being possible. Maybe with the electrical work he supposedly did in the barn. But after hearing Mike McGrains testimony about the tiling job, and seeing some of the pictures of the farmhouse (which was still unrepaired after all the water damage from the burst pipe)…

I don’t understand where another $30k to $50k of construction occurred. Especially given that RG is unlicensed, and MB was buying the materials for him .

The whole thing was BS. All along.

And I think LK telling RG not to invoice MB? Yeah. That was because LK and RG never actually wanted to pin down a real definite dollar amount in terms of work done. They wanted to claim it was all worth much more than it was. A total shakedown. It was completely part of “the plan.”

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@Angela_Freda

you’d think if RG had an invoice documenting the owed $50k, which RG said he wanted to give to Michael so it must exist… the court would have that?
I mean it would be easy to prove the work was done, to that amount right?

I thought RG had made his own LLC at the urging of LK….

Making a LLC protects against personal liability and maybe even with that pesky treble damage problem.

In the face of a big judgment the LLC ceases to exist and a new one is formed.

[MHM]

@Fiesta01

But now that he has watched LK/RG actually testify, why would he not realize the truth and approach his DA with recommendation to drop the case?

Maybe they figured that by that time they might as well try to brazen their way through it. Especially since the whole thing had been covered by Law and Crime, Court TV, etc.

To drop it in the middle might have involved too much loss of face for them.

[Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion]

I just realized how pleasantly long its been since QFP has been needed

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@smoofox

I continue to be gobsmacked how so many excuses are made for this pair… they must never be held accountable for anything… and how at some points I apparently was following a completely different trial…

I think this is called co-dependent behavior….