Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

Pretty sure SS and CPS have a policy of “better safe than sorry”, in the sense that if they have information to suggest that there is more than a tiny chance the children may be in danger, they investigate.

Of all CPS visits that occur in NJ, are you saying that 100% of visits prompted by non bogus reports result in charges against the mother, or result in the children being taken away?

I never said that the hypothetical referral by SS to CPS was motivated by concerns over child abuse by MB or even that the perceived danger was perceived to be emanating from MB as opposed to LK. I said that in a follow up with the reporter, SS may have (correctly) believed that the children, if present, were in danger.

On your pronouncement that SS does not follow up with the “victim” , where “victim” refers to the accused, does the terminology (victim=accused) hold generally, so that in the GM case you would refer to GM as the victim? Or just when the respondent is MB and the reporter is LK? Your statement seemed to refer to the SS protocol in general, and not to a single case.

I believe I very clearly stated in my last post about this that IMO MB is the victim in this particular bogus report to SS/CPS. Shall we continue with this argument?

[cutter99]

@YankeeDuchess

Pretty sure SS and CPS have a policy of “better safe than sorry”, in the sense that if they have information to suggest that there is more than a tiny chance the children may be in danger, they investigate.

Of all CPS visits that occur in NJ, are you saying that 100% of visits prompted by non bogus reports result in charges against the mother, or result in the children being taken away?

I never said that the hypothetical referral by SS to CPS was motivated by concerns over child abuse by MB or even that the perceived danger was perceived to be emanating from MB as opposed to LK. I said that in a follow up with the reporter, SS may have (correctly) believed that the children, if present, were in danger.

On your pronouncement that SS does not follow up with the “victim” , where “victim” refers to the accused, does the terminology (victim=accused) hold generally, so that in the GM case you would refer to GM as the victim? Or just when the respondent is MB and the reporter is LK? Your statement seemed to refer to the SS protocol in general, and not to a single case.

You understand that 1+1=2, right??? Just checking because many of your posts attempt to conflate things that have no line of logic whatsoever. Or do you just enjoy stirring the pot with HUGE jumps in conclusion???

[MorganSercu]

@GiveEmEl

Well I won’t argue with that. But I do think we can all agree pastry flour is good for pastries.

Definitely!

Which is why I’m looking at that recipe and thinking of how to turn it into bars instead of a cake.

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

Isn’t that the current state of affairs in our nation? Deflect, deny, defend, repeat until the gullible fall into line? Follow the shiny light and all that stuff? THIS IS NOT A POLITICAL STATEMENT.

With all due respect, I declined twice to rehash the point about SS/CPS and GWE demanded I repeat it for her convenience.

[MHM]

@Angela Freda

So strange.
Almost like the claim to SS came from a far away galaxy.
“Save me Obi Won, you’re my only hope”

Are you guys watching the Star Wars marathon? Or was that a coincidence?

Either way, here’s a tangent for you. Kylo Ren- hot or not?

[GreenWithEnvy]

@GreenWithEnvy

Actually no…I consider “the victim” to be the person reported on in this instance. You want to walk that back now? Since it is apparent MB had done nothing to be reported to SS about, he indeed is the victim!

Here you go @YankeeDuchess - to refresh your slanted memory where I clearly stated MY opinion that MB was the victim in this instance. Shall we dance further???

[cutter99]

@MorganSercu

Definitely!

Which is why I’m looking at that recipe and thinking of how to turn it into bars instead of a cake.

Please share if you come up with a recipe for bars!

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

Perhaps you need to learn how SS works. They do not call the victims to get their side of the story. They do their own investigation send letters. LK knew exactly what she was doing when she called SS…she had absolutely no reason to call them other than to file a false report on MB. Regardless, believe what you decide to believe based on your allegiance to LK rather than known facts.

So far today, you’ve attempted to additionally smear MB by saying he is a “quasi-Olympian trainer”, defended LK’s involvement with CPS, and declared you have solved all issues regarding the weapon. How about you take a break from your ideas for a few days. The next court date is coming up and you can begin your theories all over again. For someone so new to this forum, you sure have seemed to make your mind up about this case rather quickly. I don’t buy it.

  Here GWE is schooling me on “how SS works”, and states that “They do not call the victims to get their side of the story”. 

   This was a generic statement about “how SS works”, so I understood “victim” to mean the reporter. 

     Apparently, according to GWE, victim would indeed refer to the reporter in other cases, such as GM, or, RG, or perhaps all cases other than MB. But despite the generic nature of the statement, I was supposed to understand that by victim GWE meant the accused, MB, and not the reporter, LK.

[cutter99]

@YankeeDuchess

With all due respect, I declined twice to rehash the point about SS/CPS and GWE demanded I repeat it for her convenience.

😂😂😂😂😂

[GreenWithEnvy]

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Please share if you come up with a recipe for bars!

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Hmmmm…I think this recipe might be too light for bars as it’s written. The cake is quite light and oh my, so melt in your mouth delicious.

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[cutter99]

@GreenWithEnvy

Hmmmm…I think this recipe might be too light for bars as it’s written. The cake is quite light and oh my, so melt in your mouth delicious.

I shouldn’t be eating cake or bars, but they both sound so good on this dreary Sunday evening!

[MorganSercu]

@cutter99

Please share if you come up with a recipe for bars!

I’ll do that, but it will probably take a fair amount of time. Fortunately, I have dozens of young adults to volunteer to taste-test my attempts at work. Those magical years between 18 - 30.

[Angela_Freda]

@YankeeDuchess

Here GWE is schooling me on “how SS works”, and states that “They do not call the victims to get their side of the story”.

This was a generic statement about “how SS works”, so I understood “victim” to mean the reporter.

Apparently, according to GWE, victim would indeed refer to the reporter in other cases, such as GM, or, RG, or perhaps all cases other than MB. But despite the generic nature of the statement, I was supposed to understand that by victim GWE meant the accused, MB, and not the reporter, LK.

Well, just to give you something more to argue…

Someone falsely accused of a crime is a victim.
That seems pretty obvious and easy to understand… or is it just me, the Rocket Scientist?

[Angela_Freda]

@MHM

Are you guys watching the Star Wars marathon? Or was that a coincidence?

Either way, here’s a tangent for you. Kylo Ren- hot or not?

Notice my reference was to the first SW that I saw, in the theatre, when it came out… that is the extent of my knowledge of the franchise.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

Here GWE is schooling me on “how SS works”, and states that “They do not call the victims to get their side of the story”.

This was a generic statement about “how SS works”, so I understood “victim” to mean the reporter.

Apparently, according to GWE, victim would indeed refer to the reporter in other cases, such as GM, or, RG, or perhaps all cases other than MB. But despite the generic nature of the statement, I was supposed to understand that by victim GWE meant the accused, MB, and not the reporter, LK.

And yet, you posted this after I clearly tagged you and quoted my original post. You always have to have the last word, the last dig don’t you @YankeeDuchess ??? You try way too hard to control the dialog, thread and what others think. I shall go back to completely ignoring your posts again, that is until you begin to smear others again, including LK, without merit, at which point I shall speak up again. Capeesh?

[ohnoO]

Didn’t someone up thread say that the kids were not on the farm nor even in the state of NJ?

So now say in your teeniest, tiniest, softest voice, Ohhhhh! Maybe LK was right and part of the murder plan was to get the kids off the farm and out of the state!

Hummmmmm…

[La-LaPopRider]

@Angela Freda

How so?

Again, speculating… but there were suggestions that LKs dog had gone after people on the farm.
Carrying a gun, even a borrowed one, to protect ones self from said dog =/= premeditation wrt shooting LK (which was a bad thing to do, however it came to pass).

Just an example of a theory which is in no way “plausible.” Carry on, though…

[YankeeDuchess]

@GreenWithEnvy

And yet, you posted this after I clearly tagged you and quoted my original post. You always have to have the last word, the last dig don’t you @YankeeDuchess ??? You try way too hard to control the dialog, thread and what others think. I shall go back to completely ignoring your posts again, that is until you begin to smear others again, including LK, without merit, at which point I shall speak up again. Capeesh?

Yes, I understand that you subsequently “clarified” your original post to make the claim that by “victim” you meant “respondent”.

If you want me to go away, then ignoring my posts is a much better strategy than responding to each of my post, and, in addition, gratuitously tagging me when responding to other people.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@YankeeDuchess

Yes, I understand that you subsequently “clarified” your original post to make the claim that by “victim” you meant “respondent”.

If you want me to go away, then ignoring my posts is a much better strategy than responding to each of my post, and, in addition, gratuitously tagging me when responding to other people.

Perhaps we should ALL ignore your posts and then you can carry on all the parts of the discussion and argue with yourself. That would be plausible I suppose.

[La-LaPopRider]

@x-halt-salute

If you’ve seen previous episodes of the Lady Duchess Show, you’ll recognize the classic gameshow segment, “pin the words on the poster”.

Premise is simple: choose a post you dislike, use it to disparage a randomly selected poster you dislike, and see if you get called out for misattribution. Points are awarded not for matching posts and posters, but for keeping attention focused on you.

I hope you weren’t referring to me, here. Anyway, my attention is focused on you. Well… not so much mine. Are points awarded to those who involve themselves in criminal & civil suits by … doing what you’ve been doing, hoping it wouldn’t be noticed & traced? Oops.