Barisone Pleads Not Guilty

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

or maybe … her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.

Yet you didn’t mention the conversation you had with your friend did you? Nope…can’t defend yourself on that one can you?

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

Revenge? Immediately post here where I ever, ever, ever stated, insinuated or referred to “revenge.” When crimes are committed, we have a justice system for that. I’m riding horses and preparing for clinics. Not that it is ANY of your business.

The Wellington “grapevine,” can waste their time playing guessing games all they want. Pretty creepy- but IF word gets out- I will know exactly who spilled the beans. The big question is, why do YOU care? I could care less about who ANYONE else is training with. You’re at least the second person to inquire. Why? Why does who I’m training with concern you in the least, least, least? Explain.

You are an absolute train wreck. After you drop little bits of information you become pissed off when people become curious. No one gives a tinker’s damn who you are training with other than morbid curiosity. YOU are the one who said the Wellington grapevine acts quickly. You are such a drama queen.

Still, how about responding to the body-shaming FB post of yours? It’s okay for you to post such comments on FB where many people can see, but you condemned MB for allegedly speaking to a private group about body image? Trust me, I’m sure there are many other unsavory FB posts of yours that people have a record of similar to the one I posted.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

She did do that. She imported a foal by the same sire as the two she wanted of mine. Or, at least she said she imported the filly. At that time, Vivaldi had just earned his elite stud book status and his foals were priced much higher than when I bought my first two by him. The mare she got ended up having serious issues. They had to make her a broodmare to try & recoup the money they spent. Although, buying foals elinares the cost of QT when importing horses.
Idky exactly why mb tried so hard to get this horse from me- for her. I just know she really wanted this horse & when I didn’t agree - she basically ordered mb to never train the bigger brother again. The smaller one was way too small for mb & the bigger brother they knew there was zero chance I’d ever even consider selling or “trading,” even for any horse in the barn I wanted- except for one. (This was one of the offers made for the younger brother.) Don’t get me wrong- I don’t think this was the only reason for the target on my back from her. But definitely a big contribution. There were other things going on I had no idea about until way, way later. None of them my fault. I honestly had no idea what I was walking into. I mean, I knew the divorce was happening right then, but I didn’t know much else.
Once I put the puzzle together, it all made sense. It was also too late to do anything about it - except wish I saw right through her from day 1. There were a lot of moving parts. Those who felt their lives were in danger when they boarded or trained there didn’t know me …they were long gone. I only received SEVERAL apology messages from people I’ll never name - after the shooting. All of them sad I’d been shot but happy it wasn’t they at the other end of the gun barrel, bc, as they’d confided - they were in serious fear for their lives at the time.
Had I known the major drama taking place right under my nose- I’d have declined to take the apartment & move to nj with them. I’d have instead taken a different trainer & stayed in Fla year round. Or, just gone back to NC with the trainer I came with.

QFP

[La-LaPopRider]

@GiveEmEl

Let’s see, you’ve threatened LS (and through that JI) as was posted in an earlier screenshot, you’re well known in NC as a bully. You threaten lawsuits left and right. Drama follow you everywhere. You apparently photographed a mountain of cat poop in a residence and then decided to post about it on RC’s page (why? it had nothing to do with what she said) but apparently didn’t report it to CPS, though you found it prudent to report something to SS. For some reason you decided I was someone you seem to hate in NC and went on about how I had been kicked out of several farms, and you were going to tell the owner of FR what I said and she would know who exactly was stirring up drama. (FYI: I specifically asked a moderator to remove the name of the farm, which they did.)
That’s all clear “behavior”.

Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

or maybe … her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.

“Lilly” isn’t a flower??? Nice try. I also said 18 wheeler (a transfer truck and trailer for your benefit) rather than a 727 jet. You didn’t mention that slight on my part. I wonder why?

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.

QFP

[GreenWithEnvy]

@La-LaPopRider

Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet… here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would … but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
Since you know this show SO well… you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I [ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: 0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 10.9 KB ID: 10560528”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560528”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH][ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 11.7 KB ID: 10560529”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560529”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH] mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind…)

QFP

[cutter99]

So we are to believe MB and MH plotted the demise of others??? And this is all for the sake of getting horses that y’all owned but would not sell to them???

Huh, sounds like dressage is a very dangerous sport with an incredible shortage of good horseflesh if people are willing to kill for better horses.

Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!

[GreenWithEnvy]

@cutter99

So we are to believe MB and MH plotted the demise of others??? And this is all for the sake of getting horses that y’all owned but would not sell to them???

Huh, sounds like dressage is a very dangerous sport with an incredible shortage of good horseflesh if people are willing to kill for better horses.

Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!

In honor of the Sopranos and NJ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRrciJ3yE6Y

Didn’t somebody make an accusation that MB had bodies buried on his property?? Seems I remember that from one of the threads.

[Wilbury_Pie]

@BigMama1

Yes, I think it’s the same as in Canada, where (per the info on the page I linked) to compete in a CDI at home, you need to have the appropriate memberships / horse passport and complete the “permission to compete” form, and for CDIs outside your home country, the minimum score requirements apply.

I’m sure if someone really cares they could find it somewhere on the USEF site, but most people here seem too busy having inane petty arguments, sniping at each other over petty things, or quoting for posterity. And I edited this post, just because I could :lol:

Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.

[rothmpp]

@Wilbury Pie

Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.

Not that YD derserves it, but I’ll take the hit for the question several pages ago. I looked a bit, could not find anything that said you needed scores, but also did not find anything that said you DIDN’T need scores. The USEF rule book does not cover CDIs - those are under the purview of the FEI. So I asked, because I did remember someone stating that you needed scores before entering a CDI - which the original poster of that has since clarified.

[rothmpp]

@La-LaPopRider

Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet… here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would … but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
Since you know this show SO well… you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I [ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: 0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 10.9 KB ID: 10560528”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560528”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH][ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 11.7 KB ID: 10560529”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560529”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH] mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind…)

I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

http://results.horseshowoffice.com/Shows/Classes?sid=54&oid=24

You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn’t know there was a difference between the two.

The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn’t ride - I’m not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

In addition, I’ve shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?

[Jealoushe]

@iris2006

I have an idea. Why don’t all of you that are arguing with each other all the time and making this thread nearly impossible to read, start PMing each other? I imagine you can keep each other busy for hours. Or start a new thread and call it “I like to talk about my feelings on Chronicle of the Horse forums”

BEST POST OF 2020…RIGHT HERE FOLKS :lol:

[Denali6298]

@rothmpp

I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

http://results.horseshowoffice.com/Shows/Classes?sid=54&oid=24

You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn’t know there was a difference between the two.

The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn’t ride - I’m not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

In addition, I’ve shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?

Not to take up for La La, however if she was unaware of the rules for being awarded a Bronze (or any medal) I highly doubt she was aware of National vs FEI CDI’s. Maybe she was told it was an FEI CDI, maybe she just assumed.

I just gather from her posts and YD, that despite the show/dressage experience, there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to the rule book and when it comes to class requirements.

[YankeeDuchess]

@rothmpp

Not that YD derserves it, but I’ll take the hit for the question several pages ago. I looked a bit, could not find anything that said you needed scores, but also did not find anything that said you DIDN’T need scores. The USEF rule book does not cover CDIs - those are under the purview of the FEI. So I asked, because I did remember someone stating that you needed scores before entering a CDI - which the original poster of that has since clarified.

As rothmpp says, it was she who brought up the question. I had previously researched it on the USEF site, and reported that my understanding was that qualifying scores were needed for foreign CDIs, but not home CDIs. However, I also assumed posters would not believe the statement coming from me. 

Indeed, I received slag for posting my understanding of the rule, and was told to shut up unless I had been “putting on CDI’s” myself. As if it would be necessary to “put on CDIs” in orders to know the rules for entering one!  The USEF site has a 4 page document that describes the requirements for entering both foreign and domestic CDIs. 

  The information that FEI registration could be made after the ride was from the FEI site.

[YankeeDuchess]

@Wilbury Pie

Yes, the info was in the linked page, just need to look around. I’m not a dressage person, so I wasn’t that interested in the end result. I was just curious if YD would have looked herself before posting a question about it. Apparently not.

Kindly see post #1267.

[mswillie]

@cutter99

Do you realize how far fetched and fantastical this sounds? Now all we need is a Mafia connection since it is New Jersey!

Nothing like handing the defense their case. Wrapped up and tied with a bow. :rolleyes:

Edited to add that the comment is NOT directed at cutter99, in case my sarcasm was misconstrued.

[YankeeDuchess]

@rothmpp

I hate to be the bearer of bad news - that IS the national show PSG, NOT the CDI class. The Class number for the CDI PSG is/was S1.

Here is a link to the results from that show, where you can see the difference in the class numbers:

http://results.horseshowoffice.com/Shows/Classes?sid=54&oid=24

You truly may have believed that you were entered in the CDI, but maybe you just didn’t know there was a difference between the two.

The BS about not showing up on the FEI site since you didn’t ride - I’m not giving out their names - but I looked up two different people that I know rode CDIs a long time ago, long ago enough to the point that no results show up for them, and their names are still listed on the FEI site. They have membership numbers, as would you if you had completed all the necessary steps to enter a CDI.

In addition, I’ve shown the PSG multiple times, but not at a CDI, so guess what? My name is NOT on the FEI site.

You do know there is a whole process to a CDI, right? Horse has to be stabled in a different area of the barn, have specific vaccinations, subjected to inspections by the vet, has to go through a FEI jog before the competition begins?

@NotGrandPrixYet
posted a document indicating that while registration with FEI is necessary, you can enter and ride first, and register retroactively within a period of a few weeks AFTER the ride.
So no, she didn’t complete the registration, what with getting shot and all.

[BigMama1]

@Denali6298

Not to take up for La La, however if she was unaware of the rules for being awarded a Bronze (or any medal) I highly doubt she was aware of National vs FEI CDI’s. Maybe she was told it was an FEI CDI, maybe she just assumed.

I just gather from her posts and YD, that despite the show/dressage experience, there is a lack of knowledge when it comes to the rule book and when it comes to class requirements.

A lot of people don’t understand the difference between FEI classes and CDIs. Many incorrectly assume if someone is competing at FEI levels, that’s the same as a CDI.

[MHM]

@La-LaPopRider

She did do that. She imported a foal by the same sire as the two she wanted of mine. Or, at least she said she imported the filly. At that time, Vivaldi had just earned his elite stud book status and his foals were priced much higher than when I bought my first two by him. The mare she got ended up having serious issues. They had to make her a broodmare to try & recoup the money they spent. Although, buying foals elinares the cost of QT when importing horses.
Idky exactly why mb tried so hard to get this horse from me- for her. I just know she really wanted this horse & when I didn’t agree - she basically ordered mb to never train the bigger brother again. The smaller one was way too small for mb & the bigger brother they knew there was zero chance I’d ever even consider selling or “trading,” even for any horse in the barn I wanted- except for one. (This was one of the offers made for the younger brother.) Don’t get me wrong- I don’t think this was the only reason for the target on my back from her. But definitely a big contribution. There were other things going on I had no idea about until way, way later. None of them my fault. I honestly had no idea what I was walking into. I mean, I knew the divorce was happening right then, but I didn’t know much else.
Once I put the puzzle together, it all made sense. It was also too late to do anything about it - except wish I saw right through her from day 1. There were a lot of moving parts. Those who felt their lives were in danger when they boarded or trained there didn’t know me …they were long gone. I only received SEVERAL apology messages from people I’ll never name - after the shooting. All of them sad I’d been shot but happy it wasn’t they at the other end of the gun barrel, bc, as they’d confided - they were in serious fear for their lives at the time.
Had I known the major drama taking place right under my nose- I’d have declined to take the apartment & move to nj with them. I’d have instead taken a different trainer & stayed in Fla year round. Or, just gone back to NC with the trainer I came with.

@La-LaPopRider

or maybe … her name isn’t a flower? Which is specifically what was stated. Though, after thinking really hard about it- I realized, I DO know someone named “Daisy.” Not that it’s relevant.

@La-LaPopRider

Like I’m gonna tell you… I think we’ve taken enough security precautions already. Or… are you just pissed off that there are actually SOME decent people in Wellington who don’t have time for drama or lies on BB’s or anywhere else - who also don’t care what anyone else thinks bc, they’ve had success & wish to help those willing to seek their help? It is interesting though- why do you care so much? I’m very interested in learning why you care at all who is training me? It’s a bit concerning to be honest.

@La-LaPopRider

Yeah, FEI doesn’t have me listed as an “athlete,” bc I hadn’t ridden the test yet at a show! Yet… here I am, right on the ride list for the FEI PSG Q on one day, (along with another two tests) - no FEI the other day- just 3-3 and 4-1 and no confirmed times (yet) for the NON sweepstakes CDI or any other tests- bc my entry was very late. I did get in at the very last minute to a CDI class & another class which I didn’t really need but being there for 5 days- why not? I had no intention of riding the NON CDI FEI PSG or the CDI PSG until it was absolutely ready & given the stamp of “ok,” by MB. I got that. Knew I would … but only booked my AIRBNB a month out to be sure my usual cabin would be available for me & be extra sure I was prepared.
Since you know this show SO well… you must also have the slew of email exchanges between show management & myself in addition to these 3 screenshots of a show you claim I wasn’t entered into. I [ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: 0B68606B-9BCC-4287-9649-41D7B071F933.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 10.9 KB ID: 10560528”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560528”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH][ATTACH=JSON]{“alt”:“Click image for larger version Name: E53DC9F4-C36E-44D8-951C-17E86CF6F90A.jpeg Views: 1 Size: 11.7 KB ID: 10560529”,“data-align”:“none”,“data-attachmentid”:“10560529”,“data-size”:“small”}[/ATTACH] mean, I can’t share emails- (I checked) - but I can’t stop anyone else from (sort of) doxxing! These are only Friday & sundays rides - Do you think I was going to twiddle my thumbs on Thursday & Saturday - having 3 stalls, 2 tack stalls (a paddock I THINK) plus an AIRBNB booked through the following tues or weds? (As a mini vacation in Saugerties to unwind…)

@La-LaPopRider

Revenge? Immediately post here where I ever, ever, ever stated, insinuated or referred to “revenge.” When crimes are committed, we have a justice system for that. I’m riding horses and preparing for clinics. Not that it is ANY of your business.

The Wellington “grapevine,” can waste their time playing guessing games all they want. Pretty creepy- but IF word gets out- I will know exactly who spilled the beans. The big question is, why do YOU care? I could care less about who ANYONE else is training with. You’re at least the second person to inquire. Why? Why does who I’m training with concern you in the least, least, least? Explain.

@La-LaPopRider

Again, you lie. You & both know EXACTLY who you are. Since that’s a fact, I’ve asked you to stop harassing me & making defamatory comments. Repeatedly. You & GWE have a serious obsession issue which I feel, at this point, must be addressed. Atm, I have other, more important things to tend to- like RIDING. You should try it sometime! Btw- (and this is NOT a compliment) you’ve been mistaken for being SW on other occasions. But I see now, you’re just not involved enough in the sport to know that your kiss-ass comments on her page only embarrass yourself.
Also, provide an example of this “bullying,” I’m “known for,” in NC. Not taking crap for people & BULLYING them are two totally different things. Further, LS was never threatened. Post the screenshot. I know what I said. And it was all true. If JI & LS feel “threatened,” by evidence which one of them accidentally let slip - well, that might worry me, too! Don’t twist words. It’s just dumb. Now, again, do not tag me, do not quote me, do not mention me except in the privacy of your own mind- I hope I’m making myself CRYTAL clear. Same goes for GWE. The two of you can rant all you want in person together. But this harassment & cyberstalking stops now.

Even though some of these were already QFP, it’s interesting to see them all together. Because… wow.