So were you napping again in the court room when the judge was the one who decided they could not use the not guilty defense?
So, the plot on the audio recording… That you transcribed so you know it well… Where was this supposed to take place?
As you’ve directed this comment to yourself and answered yourself, I agree.
Self defense was on the table until the jury charging orders were finalized.
I wonder did seeker1 also transcribe the audio from the video recordings?
So, if the plan wasn’t specific enough to know ahead of time that it was a plot, then how well planned could it have been to have went down exactly as planned?
Maybe because there was no plan. It would explain the utter lack of action on these tapes by every party the best.
I just went through her testimony (again.) She never said anything close to that on direct, cross, re-direct, or re-cross. Not even a hint of that.
Here was the progression of the pleas by Michael:
- First plea - not guilty
- Second plea - not guilty by reason of insanity or self defense
- Self defense was thrown out by Judge Taylor
- Not guilty by reason of insanity was the final plea made by the defense because not guilty was taken off the table and self defense was taken off the table by the judge
I guess. But Seeker heard them, transcribed the plot to kill her daughter.
Unless she’s not very bright, it must have sounded compelling to Seeker.
So, what was it about the plot that convinced Seeker, but then no one thought to use to prove MBs guilt?
More like 95% of the people
I’m not disputing the fact Michael shot her. That’s what the jury determined, based on the evidence they heard.
Are you disputing the fact that her own actions and choices are largely responsible for Michael’s mental break, which resulted in the shooting?
Are you disputing the fact she had ample opportunity to leave long before events came to such a tragic head?
yes bigmama1
It seems someone is re-writing the testimony because they are suddenly very worried about what is going on, especially the idea that MB now owns all that discovery and can turn it over to SS/USEF.
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- First plea - not guilty - (Michael saying I did not do it)
- Second plea - not guilty by reason of insanity or self defense (I did it but I was insane and/or they attacked me first)
- Self defense was thrown out by Judge Taylor
- Not guilty by reason of insanity (I think I did it because I was insane or did not remember due to my insanity) was the final plea made by the defense because not guilty was taken off the table (they all knew he did it) and self defense was taken off the table by the judge taylor because there was no evidence to support this defense.
yeah, you hear a plot to kill your daughter, you hop on a cruise through Europe and don’t even offer her to come home.
tsk tsk tsk
I am not worried in the least sdel. I am getting tired of being harassed in public by many of you.
there is a joke in Martial Arts circles:
Q.: How do you get an Aikidoka to stop throwing you?
A.: Stop attacking.
hrmm… we never thought it was serious. We thought this was only a group of people blowing off steam. No one, including Ruth Cox thought Michael would do such a horrible thing. Ruth was crying at the court house just after she testified say I never thought he would do it.