Barisone Safe Sport Update

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@Angela_Freda

@trubandloki

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And her mother transcribed the alleged tapes
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Which must have been horrendous after her daughter almost died.

I believe her mother said it happened in the couple of days between her getting home from her vacation abroad and the shooting. Not after the shooting

Why transcribe them before the shooting, to what end? And before any criminal act that one might think one needs them for? Why?

Why? Because this was a planned and strategized pattern of behavior most probably designed to harass, intimidate and extort what they wanted as revenge for his defiance and failure to further acquiesce to their demands.

Even the pretend negotiation between JK and MBs attorney was in my mind just a further bull tactic to delay allowing more time to intimidate.

I don’t for a moment believe that particular negotiation was made in actual good faith by the K side. It was a ruse.

Not proven. They were not on trial.

[Angela_Freda]

Oh please, Seeker heard them! They’re legit! She would know!

[Seeker1]

Brenda Jane, are you having fun making up stories that you want to believe?

[BigMama1]

@Seeker1

All of those things are true. Michael at one point threatened Lauren that if she left he would ruin her in the business. Totally insane.

She didn’t need his help to ruin her reputation. Seriously.

[Seeker1]

She was working on it, but MHG and MB were actively working against her in the community.

[MHM]

@Seeker1

Brenda Jane, are you having fun making up stories that you want to believe?

Well, there are some other posters here who do the same thing, making up movies in their heads, so it’s not exactly off-limits.

[Seeker1]

She may or may not have had a bad reputation, but she never SHOT anyone.

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@Knights_Mom

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@Knights_Mom

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@Knights_Mom

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@OntheFnce

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@Danvers

No they did not…. You are wrong. We do not know who shot the gun or why it was shot or under what circumstances I have a feeling there was a struggle after they, LK, RG and Rosie attacked MB. And the gun went off accidentally because of thier assault, … Why else would there be so many different stories from LK and RG. They contradicted each other on the stand….

The jury knows who fired the gun. He is in a mental institution being evaluated instead of out walking around. NGRI- not a criminal but institutionalized until he is no longer a danger to himself or others. He will undergo periodic evaluations until he is deemed no longer a danger to himself or others. Maybe one, maybe many.

The jury does not know who fired the gun. I watched the entire trial and there was no proof whatsoever who fired the gun.

They would have let him go if there was a “reasonable doubt.” They had none got LK but did for RG.

He was determined to be NOT GUILTY /RI and not GUILTY BUT INSANE.

This has been explained.

That is what I said and have said. Guilty but insane means he is sentenced and goes to jail and is a felon, a convict, and loses some rights forever. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means he committed the act but is not criminally liable because he was insane. He is not a felon. He is institutionalized until no longer a threat to himself or others. He can possibly be eventually released and has his full rights.

You’ve said this yourself.

You keep on imposing the MB shot LK part. And that was not established at all during the trial. Had self defense been permitted to be left in and THEN found to not be applicable because it wasn’t self defense then its a different story. But the NG/RI defense basically ignores any defense he might have and goes straight to “well if he did do this then this is why”.

Oh wow. I thought you knew better. No, the jury believe it beyond a reasonable doubt or it would be Not Guilty. Instead it’s Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity which is yes he shot her but he knew not what he did.

I have no doubt that verdict was a negotiation that was made instead of a hung jury. Think about it, the jury came back with a straight NG for RG. Same recordings and conversations involved. Same behaviors as with LK on MBs part. The only difference was that RG lacked bullet holes. He still had injuries - injuries the jury ignored - WHY? Why did the jury ignore RGs injuries?

Because the jury didn’t believe the sequence of events as presented.

But with LK there were bullet wounds so their verdict ended up a negotiated “well if he did do it its because they drove him insane”. That is the essence of that verdict.

That is not what that verdict is for and it is not what it said. Unless you spoke with the jury, you have no way of knowing that.

[BrendaJane]

Making stuff up?
I think you are projecting. Which is funny, as the trial was televised in it’s entirety. And many people made screen shots of her FB adventures, and even some folks who used to be friends with her came to chime in once they found out how your daughter lied to them.
But by all means, I am making things up.
Carry on.

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@BrendaJane

there was the little discrepancy in KK’s timeline: She couldn’t do anything because she was in Europe on a ship, but was luckily home when the shooting happened.

SO there was plenty of time to remove LK from the farm, she had offers to take in her multiple horses, and the family home is not far away I gather
Oh right
It is Ok for her parents to not take her in, but such an outrage for a stranger to want to be rid of her.
Incredible logic.

Amazing. In a nutshell.

[MHM]

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Unless you spoke with the jury, you have no way of knowing that.

Exactly like you, right?

[Angela_Freda]

@Seeker1

She may or may not have had a bad reputation, but she never SHOT anyone.

So MHG and MB really didn’t need to warm people.
Ok.
And if they did, it was moot cause people already were aware.

[BrendaJane]

she shot AT someone.
ah, somewhere in her pile of arrest records…ther is a nugget of irony for you.

[BigMama1]

Your husband and MB’s lawyers had secured a place for her to go. Many people online offered to help. There are also many, many options outside the Loxahatchee area where nobody knows or cares who MB is and where Lauren’s reputation wouldn’t have preceded her.

Any good horse person who was genuinely scared for their horses’ safety would have moved them within hours, not days or weeks.

I do understand this is the sorry she has given you - everyone was a big old meanie to her, none of it was her fault, they were going to hurt her and her horses… With her penchant for lying, even under oath, why would you believe her version of events?

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@MHM

@Seeker1

I heard what I heard that Michael and MHG said. IT WAS SCARY as HELL. Believe me or don’t. The prosecutor heard them too.

Yet the prosecutor did not include those tapes in his case, did he? Why is that?

Prejudicial to the defendant-MB.

[BigMama1]

@Seeker1

She may or may not have had a bad reputation, but she never SHOT anyone.

She shot AT someone though, didn’t she? I guess that person is lucky she has bad aim.

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DiFranco had not moved in that short time either though she was actively looking and did not have the same number of horses.

She and her daughter did go stay in an Air BnB though, while she looked for a spot for her horses.

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How do u think thebullet holes got into her chest brendajane?

[Seeker1]

No big mamma

[KurPlexed]

@Seeker1

Then LK got really scared he might hurt her horses and or her

Interesting.
That’s her motive in all of this. Not his.
She wanted to scare (admitted on the stand) and hurt him “finish the bastard” bc princess didn’t get enough attention.
He just wanted her gone and to continue on with his VERY successful life.

That must have really brought out Ms badass in her. How dare he??!!