Barisone Safe Sport Update

So $5000 will board 4 horses with a 5th on the way in New Jersey? For 2.5 years people have been saying it won’t.

FACT: NJ IS SUCH A HORSEY STATE THE STATE ANIMAL IS THE HORSE

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Weren’t there more people than just Tarish (sp?) and JK coordinating a move of horses? Wasn’t her equine broker also involved in helping to find a place to move? Anyone else coordinating as well? Why didn’t she leave? As a juror on the Civil Trial I would really be confused why she refused to leave when so much help was thrown in her face, unless the obvious answer is she wasn’t finished destroying Barisone. After all, she knew she’d put the wheels in motion for CPS to appear…who would want to miss those fireworks!!! Just as an arsonist likes to stick around to watch their handywork!

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$5000 wouldn’t cover Top Training board for 2 horses much less 5! Gosh, I wonder what she’s paying now or what she paid when she moved everything to NC for a few months before heading to FL? Seems she had a HUGE bargain with Barisone.

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There are several true crime books out about the Brach heiress and Chicago organized crime. There is a book on the Calumet Farm-Wild Ride. There are a lot of articles killing horses for insurance, laundering drug money through horses, training methods mentioned by GM and BS that I was taught were wrong, there are all kinds.

@Knights_Mom just said it would. You can see her post if you tap the little arrow on the right top. don’t know what the board is in New Jersey.

I know what KM said…TRAINING board with an Olympic caliber trainer is significantly different than simply boarding horses.

KM’s comment:
“$5000 will board this number of horses just fine until something else could be found and at a very decent barn in NJ no problem. Now maybe not with a world class trainer but that was not MBs problem. That was LKs to live within her means.”

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Ay yi yi, I think you are being deliberate. The amount of money per horse depends on if the facility is a TOP TRAINING BARN such as Barisones vs a boarding barn.

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I suspect @hut-ho78 is not familiar with training board vs board.

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Nunavut? You are such a hoot!!! Are you sure Nunavut doesn’t have a thriving dressage community? Thawed footing must be an issue! :rofl:

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But LK’s shown how many times in the last 2 1/2 years? (Personally, if I were MB, I wouldn’t go to a show venue if there were a .000001% chance of running into her. But I worry, as from what has been written here, I wouldn’t be surprised if LK would just ‘saunter’ onto MB’s property in FL while he was there.)

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Veiled and barefoot ninja style?

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Yes - but once again, you are twisting yourself into extreme pretzels for some reason to make excuses for her as to why LK could not be bothered to move the horses. She certainly had many opportunities to do so. She chose not to.

Once again, you imply that cases like the Brach mess you mentioned happen All The Time. You suggest that someone like GM would rush over to pole LK’s horses - I am not sure how that would even work on a dressage horse. Maybe GM better contact Paul Schokemohle about that. I remember back when he got caught poling - so you can add that one to your list.

You suggest that the mob surely would get involved, that someone might break a horse’s leg in a stall with a pipe… you seem to want it to be something that happens Every Single Day in Every Barn Everywhere - merely so you can make yet more excuses upon excuses.

I am also well aware of Calumet Farm, thanks.

Those horses could have enjoyed a very nice layover in some Less Than Olympic Training Barn In New Jersey that would be considered rather grand, perfectly acceptable, clean and safe by most of us lowly stall-cleaning riff-raff types out here who have managed and worked at assorted barns (as well as disciplines) for decades.

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Just a reminder that while fancy schmancy barns can be wonderful what makes them fancy schmancy is usually amenities for the rider. The horse doesn’t need fancy schmancy if they have a big stall, good bedding, nice surfaces to ride on, ample and proper turnout/pasture with safe fencing according to his needs. Add a hot/cold bathing place and it’s horsey heaven.

And from what I understand from friends in NJ that’s in the $700 - $850 range.

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Did DiFranco ever claim to fear for her life or concern that someone was plotting to harm her horses? She had the luxury of waiting to find an ideal place to move to, something that does not indicate fear for one’s safety.

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LK could’ve found a way out if she wanted to. If she would’ve poured all of her energy into getting the heck out of Dodge instead of the “finish the bastard” stuff, installing smoke detectors so she could stay, and other faffing about, then I have no doubt she could’ve found some arrangement.

She has the benefit of having a lot of money and no job (so, a lot of free time). This makes it even easier to move, and find accommodation (even just a hotel) for herself. The stable didn’t need to be fancy or with an Olympian, just adequate enough for her horses to live there temporarily. If there is a will, there is a way.

I find it very hard to believe that those tapes/recordings have anything “terrifying” or valuable on them, for a variety of reasons. I’m fine with being wrong, but I feel as though whatever was said on the tapes was twisted to fit whatever narrative. I mean, this is the same person who found the username “Cutter” to be threatening. On a horse forum. Where one might jump to the cutting horse conclusion first rather than some far fetched theory, but these folk hear hoofbeats and think, no, insist and proclaim zebras.

It sucks when you do bad things and there are consequences :roll_eyes: You can’t have your cake and eat it too. You can’t do terrible things, be a shady character, and expect to not have the reputation. Be mad at yourself for acting that way, not others. If others are talking about what you did, the bottom line is it’s what you did. I swear some people want the good image but aren’t a good person and get bent out of shape when others say something about it. Then it’s “I’m protecting my family” from what? The consequences of their own actions? Or “Lies! All lies!” When it isn’t lies. It just doesn’t match what you want.

Sure, we can say that LK didn’t shoot anybody, but again, this doesn’t absolve her of her other behaviors. It’s like, I can’t vandalize someone’s car and then say “but I didn’t burn their house down” that doesn’t take away from what I did, and there is no award for not burning someone’s house down, you shouldn’t do that anyway!

The fixation on “she didn’t shoot anyone” is weird. MB allegedly shot her and demonstrated that he has/had some mental issues…which is why he is where he is at the moment. Dealing with the consequences of his behavior (even if he couldn’t help it at the time). I’m no fan of his (don’t know him well enough), nor am I saying he did or can do no wrong. I guess I should say “oh but he didn’t kill anyone that day!” This should be the comeback to “she didn’t shoot anyone” if we’re using that kind of “logic” I guess.

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He formed his LLC in NC. Which did zip to get him licensed anywhere and he was not and is not licensed in New Jersey.

So if he did that with Lauren’s help & advice, she lied to him too (it would afford him protection and lead to his licensure).

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Hi RND - I understand where you are coming from and there are certainly those of another persuasion that could look at how they are writing their rebuttal.

From what I have read of this trial, unfortunately, the case is not as clear as you (and I) might think of as proof of who shot the gun. It was a given that a gun was shot. And that there were three people involved - one of whom was injured. That is not, in itself, proof who shot who - just that a gun was shot and a person was injured.

How this happened is disputed - merely carrying a gun (or, indeed, waving it around) is not a crime in the USA. (It is where I live in NZ :slight_smile:) Whether or not MB shot the gun or it was accidently fired in a tussle or <> was not judged.

What was tried was that, IF MB did fire the gun, did he understand that it was (1) a crime and (2) he had intent to commit that crime. By being found " not guilty by reason of insanity" - which is a very high standard in any court in any country - the jury said that MB did not shoot LK.

I’ve been on a murder trial like this - and the steps were very very very clearly laid out by both the prosecution and the defence. Mine was “did they commit murder or manslaughter” and it all came down to whether or not the person intended to commit murder or not.

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It can be a crime in the USA. There are a few details that could certainly make carrying a gun or waving it around a crime. Not everyone in the USA can just carry a gun.

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Lots of people offered to get Lauren out very quickly. She declined because she loves being the center of attention whether it is good or bad.

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