Barisone Safe Sport Update

[trubandloki]

@hut-ho78

So $5000 will board 4 horses with a 5th on the way in New Jersey? For 2.5 years people have been saying it won’t.

Hut, you are on a horse forum so I have to assume you actually know the answer to this crazy question, but just in case you do not I will explain it to you.
There are different levels of board.
At MB’s place LK was in full training, so not only does her board cover feeding the horse but it includes training with a Olympic level trainer or someone that Olympic level trainer assigns to do the training/riding. That costs extra. That is not cheap.
I have never looked at the boarding situation in NJ but I am betting there are full care (in this case full care = horses are fed, horses are turned out, horses have clean stalls, heck maybe even blanket changes) boarding situations that cost substantially less than training board with an Olympic level trainer. Perfectly good horse care, perfectly good horse accommodations, horses are safe and happy and well fed, just not getting training rides daily by an upper level pro. But it seems like if you think your horses are in danger where they are living that the training rides by the upper level pro thing would not be overly important. Oh but wait, Daddy and lawyer had found a place with those training rides and LK said no to it.

@CanteringCarrot

She has the benefit of having a lot of money and no job (so, a lot of free time).

I believe she used the term “endless means”, so your point is exactly right. No job (so endless time) and endless means = plenty of time and money to arrange a departure if a departure is what is wanted. But clearly that is not what LK wanted to do even after Daddy made arrangements for her.

[BrendaJane]

Mumsy was also going to report us to the good ole judge!
I mean, it did look like His Honor was a little biased. Alas, justice prevailed!

[trubandloki]

Hey @Seeker1 I see you deleted this post last night (after previously saying you do not delete posts. I know, I know…it is so hard to post facts sometimes).

This is what it looks like now:

What does it say that you felt we should no longer associate with you and you posting it?

The fact that you seem to forgive yourself just fine for everything your daughter has done? It is only the actions of people not related to you that are a problem?

[DownYonder]

@CanteringCarrot

@RaeHughes

merely carrying a gun (or, indeed, waving it around) is not a crime in the USA

It can be a crime in the USA. There are a few details that could certainly make carrying a gun or waving it around a crime. Not everyone in the USA can just carry a gun.

Correct. Firearms laws vary from state to state. Some states require a permit to carry, some states do not. And many states have laws against “brandishing a firearm.”

[SillyHorse]

@RND

Can we just stop with this nonsense?

That would be swell.

[DownYonder]

@hut-ho78

DiFranco didn’t get her horses out either and she was actively looking.

For one thing, DiFranco wasn’t told to “get out.” For another thing, she may have been thinking the situation would resolve esp. since MB was working on a plan to legally force LK and RG to leave.

Your borderline libelous insinuations that LK’s horses may have been at risk of intentional harm at SGF are really over the top. Is that your delusion, or was that her delusion? At any rate, if she was so worried about possible harm, then why the h*** didn’t she get them out of there?

[MHM]

@GiveEmEl

How does USEF handle a banned person? Obviously they could prevent any entries from being accepted but what about as a spectator? Do the people at showing facilities have a binder of banned people that they look for at shows?
If USEF bans you, can you still spectate?

A suspended person is not allowed on the showgrounds during a competition.

There have been a few high profile cases in the past when suspended people tried to attend shows as spectators, and were identified and asked to leave the property.

In most cases, though, I don’t think it happens unless someone goes to the show steward and points out the suspended person, unless the steward or show staff happens to recognize that person.

[DownYonder]

Also, per Mod1, RND’s posting privileges have been removed, so don’t expect a response from him (unless he comes back under a pseudonym).

[ohnoO]

The argument that LK could/should have left when help was offered falls apart every time because the real issue was not the barn or the caliber of the trainers, but the fact that she wanted/needed to live on the property.

I would love to know why?

[Knights_Mom]

@ohnoO

The argument that LK could/should have left when help was offered falls apart every time because the real issue was not the barn or the caliber of the trainers, but the fact that she wanted/needed to live on the property.

I would love to know why?

Control?

Or the reason is possibly associated with her addiction.

Or both.

[MorganSercu]

It may also have something to do with Rob’s addiction? If he is “otherwise occupied” and as she doesn’t drive, she may BELIEVE she NEEDS or is entitled to a place to sleep whenever she chooses.

Kinda weird in light of Lyft, Uber and cab companies. No other friends around to give her a lift? Despite all that time spent in and around the area(s)?

Hmm.

[ohnoO]

@hut-ho78

A real trainer wouldn’t shoot his students either

Ha! I had a real trainer and I’ll bet there a few times in our ~30 year relationship, they would have wanted to shoot me! LOL! (Figuratively speaking, of course—Sorry, bad joke ).

[Knights_Mom]

@MorganSercu

It may also have something to do with Rob’s addiction? If he is “otherwise occupied” and as she doesn’t drive, she may BELIEVE she NEEDS or is entitled to a place to sleep whenever she chooses.

Kinda weird in light of Lyft, Uber and cab companies. No other friends around to give her a lift? Despite all that time spent in and around the area(s)?

Hmm.

Or she can just drive herself. Like the rest of us do.

[MorganSercu]

I wonder if she literally can’t drive. Medical or legal reasons.

[Knights_Mom]

Medically if she can ride she can drive.

Legally - well nothing would surprise me.

[eggbutt]

Nah, she would wait until late, late night, don her Ninja outfit and prowl around at night. There are other properties in close proximity that more than likely have all sorts of security, so she would have to be very stealthy. /s

[MHM]

@RHdobes563

But I worry, as from what has been written here, I wouldn’t be surprised if LK would just ‘saunter’ onto MB’s property in FL while he was there.)

I don’t know anything about MB‘s property in Florida. But there are plenty of places in that part of the state that have a gated entrance. Nobody saunters in unless they know the gate code or they climb the fence, which could probably be prosecuted as trespassing.

[trubandloki]

@ohnoO

The argument that LK could/should have left when help was offered falls apart every time because the real issue was not the barn or the caliber of the trainers, but the fact that she wanted/needed to live on the property.

I would love to know why?

But, I thought when they were in Florida she did not live on the property, so clearly that requirement only was at this facility.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Nah, she would wait until late, late night, don her Ninja outfit and prowl around at night. There are other properties in close proximity that more than likely have all sorts of security, so she would have to be very stealthy. /s

I have the perfect disguise for her. A Boulder. She scampers a few feet then sets down and rests. Then a few feet more. Rests. Easy hide for recording devices when someone sits on you to smoke a cigarette too.

[LexInVA]

@ohnoO

The argument that LK could/should have left when help was offered falls apart every time because the real issue was not the barn or the caliber of the trainers, but the fact that she wanted/needed to live on the property.

I would love to know why?

It has been said that Lauren’s father refused to pay for NJ housing and the fact that she thought she was going to be “the center of the business” likely factored into it as well. She has no money, beyond what her parents - mostly her father, though I suspect the other parent drops cash on her when she sees her - voluntarily dole out from the Kanarak finances. [edit]