Barisone Safe Sport Update

Where is the evidence?

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Which seriously calls into question the validity of her claims and how compelling they will be for SS, USEF, whatever other alphabet soup organization m, and the civil trial.

Not to mention her rather assertive libelous claims about the plot and that when those elements were discussed in the criminal trial they were from private texts between MB and MHG about getting her evicted.

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That is what I said and have said. Guilty but insane means he is sentenced and goes to jail and is a felon, a convict, and loses some rights forever. Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity means he committed the act but is not criminally liable because he was insane. He is not a felon. He is institutionalized until no longer a threat to himself or others. He can possibly be eventually released and has his full rights.

You’ve said this yourself.

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No it does not.

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Well yeah, shot twice, coded, scarred for life. It is dramatic.

Which must have been horrendous after her daughter almost died.

Yes and LK and RG and JK scared MB for life So there is that…. They are bad people. Give it up. Who does that kinda stuff. [edit]

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I believe her mother said it happened in the couple of days between her getting home from her vacation abroad and the shooting. Not after the shooting.

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You keep on imposing the MB shot LK part. And that was not established at all during the trial. Had self defense been permitted to be left in and THEN found to not be applicable because it wasn’t self defense then its a different story. But the NG/RI defense basically ignores any defense he might have and goes straight to “well if he did do this then this is why”.

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You may believe that but they were not on trial and what is not known is the cause of MB’s breakdown. This is believed by just a few.

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Seeker1 does say in the previous thread that she has already transcribed the tapes before the incident

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A USEF ban was used years ago for the gang that had horses killed for the insurance money.

That was well before SS and wouldn’t have involved SS anyway.

They aren’t concerned about animal abuse—at least not as a governing body. I’m sure individually many of the members do care.

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Thank you for supporting what I remember reading.

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Why didn’t your daughter leave when it was clear she was no longer welcome? Why didn’t she move her horses to the nearby comparable trainer, as had been arranged by your husband, MB, and their lawyers?

There are lots of “why” questions that unfortunately can’t be answered, including why Michael didn’t seek professional support for the extreme mental stress he was experiencing.

However he did seek support from the appropriate authorities, aka the police, and they did nothing. He did seek legal support from his lawyer, and had seemingly negotiated a new training barn for Lauren, as well as serving official notice of eviction in one last attempt to resolve the issue before formally filing for eviction in court.

So he had taken many of the appropriate steps and perhaps things would have been different had child protective services not shown up at his door that day, promoted by Lauren’s call to Safe Sport. It seems that was the final straw which broke the camel’s back.

What appropriate steps did Lauren take to resolve the situation peacefully? Installing illegal recorders, sneaking around the property at night, breaking barn rules, screaming outside windows at night, refusing all the offers of transport, housing, stabling…none of seems like a reasonable response to someone clearly indicating you are no longer welcome as a client or a tenant.

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Oh wow. I thought you knew better. No, the jury believe it beyond a reasonable doubt or it would be Not Guilty. Instead it’s Not Guilty by Reason of Insanity which is yes he shot her but he knew not what he did.

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That’s a crock and you know it. She only received formal notice the day before, but clearly she had been asked / told to leave much earlier. Clearly she was aware she was not wanted on the property long before she received that notice. Otherwise how would your husband have time to negotiate arrangements at a nearby farm? Does anyone actually think she would have left within 3 days of receiving that letter? Or would she have them forced MB to begin the legal process of evicting her through the courts? I think we all know the answer.

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Why didn’t you send your daughter to a rehab center or get her away from hurting so many people? You don’t allow her in your house yet you allow her out to hurt and damage other people. By I assume giving her $$$ and backing her multiple law suits I mean …. Who has so many accusations against them…? I know addiction and crazy. And yet you allow and promote her to damage other people…: I don’t get it?

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I have his book, but couldn’t finish it.

Interesting, I broke my ankle and my heel never went down again. It looked like it did because have long feet, but I couldn’t fool my trainer—maybe a couple of judges……

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He was just nasty. Gifted in compelling horses (often with abusive force) to comply.

He is quite narcissistic in his behavior.

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Not telling you to go away. But look forward to seeing LK, RG and JK at the civil trial!

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