Barisone Safe Sport Update

[ekat]

@eggbutt

expect the civil trial will be no holds barred and the Kanarek family & others will be front and center. Take the Deininger court filing against the MCPD and add to it! Just my fantasies at work

Just one paragraph from MB’s counter suit by Mr Deininger:

“5. Kanarek has a history of tortious and/or criminal, antisocial behavior, including but not limited to stalking; bullying; threats of harm, injury, and mayhem against persons she chooses to target; threats against public figures; gaslighting; fraud; false reports; and other behaviors which are harmful, injurious, and destructive to the people she victimizes.”

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

he actually did have a cash flow problem at the time.

You’re leaving out where she said, “He always made it work.”

[DreadPirateRoberts]

@Knights_Mom

One error: I’m not praying for one second for any of that Klan.

Of course. Please don’t waste any breath on those who preachify on equestrian forums.

Buttercup and I will pray to a nice variety of gods and monsters just in case one of them is powerful enough to help this family with their many, many pains and shortcomings. We think of it like buying a lottery ticket when the jackpot is big: a tiny outlay, a bit of a lark, and an infinitesimal chance that someone’s life will be changed for the better.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@eggbutt

expect the civil trial will be no holds barred and the Kanarek family & others will be front and center. Take the Deininger court filing against the MCPD and add to it! Just my fantasies at work

Just one paragraph from MB’s counter suit by Mr Deininger:

“5. Kanarek has a history of tortious and/or criminal, antisocial behavior, including but not limited to stalking; bullying; threats of harm, injury, and mayhem against persons she chooses to target; threats against public figures; gaslighting; fraud; false reports; and other behaviors which are harmful, injurious, and destructive to the people she victimizes.”

While she was trashing him on social media, he was trying to break her then he shot her. Not the same.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

he actually did have a cash flow problem at the time.

You’re leaving out where she said, “He always made it work.”

Thanks for the research and the support.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

While she was trashing him on social media, he was trying to break her then he shot her. Not the same.

Who broke whom?

Couple more paragraphs from the civil suit:

11. At all times relevant hereto, Kanarek’s wrongful acts, actions, and omissions included, for example, making false accusation of child abuse, false accusations of animal abuse, false accusation of insurance fraud, false reports to agencies providing child-protective-services, and other falsehoods through which her intention was to cause harm.

12. For example, Kanarek harassed Barisone by utilizing technology to “bug” (i.e., unlawfully eves drop) upon private conversation Barisone was having; and/or, alternatively, harassed Barisone for purposes of causing him severe and significant emotional distress by claiming that she had unlawful eves-dropping of Barisone’s residence and/or business for purposes of stalking him and Barisone Family members

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@PDDT

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think there was a text from MB to MHG saying that he would get LK banned for life from USEF, at a time when he was on the USEF board of directors. It’s not saying USEF is unethical to say that MB may have believed that, as a director, his complaint against LK would carry weight.

Where would you have seen a text between MB and MHG? I don’t recall any being entered into evidence at the trial.

If I understand what you are saying, you are making a bald assertion that MB believed the USEF would behave unethically by being influenced by one of the directors. If you make that assertion with apparently no evidence, it follows that you have fabricated possible unethical behavior on the part of the USEF out of thin air and fairy dust.

You may not have intended to cast aspersions on the USEF, but I think you have made a serious accusation.

MHG testified about a text from MB to MHG that MHG had to read in court where MB wrote her on 7/30/2019 that he would get LK a lifetime ban from USEF. She also testified that a complaint was sent by email to USDF and USEF about LK by both MHG and MB together I think on the same day.

The USEF connection is the gal he mentored. I am not aware of any favoritism or cronyism shown by USEF or USDF in their handling of this situation.

I have wondered if that gal he mentored helped get LK stalls at the facility she currently boards her horses.

You mean that text there is no copy of and no one references anywhere? The one that doesn’t exist? The one piece of evidence that LK forgot to keep or transmit to anyone as proof?

MHG read several texts during her testimony.

Right at the beginning of her testimony, she does state she entered into a romantic relationship with MB in 2015.

She read one from July 13, 2019 from MB to her stating words to the effect of trust me, I’ll make it so bad they will be begging to leave. I know how and I’m good at it.

She read one from July 30, 2029 from MB to her stating contact everyone who has ever been screwed by LK and her dad as he was going to get LK a lifetime ban from USDF.

She testified they emailed USDF and USEF on that same day.

She testified that August 3, 2019 he had her father everyone and they (LK, RG, JK) will be broken by sheer numbers. That day she also asked MB why they couldn’t just ask LK to leave because no one had.

She testified that on August 6 they mailed the 756 page report to SafeSport.

I think LK was still singing MB’s praises on the 13th. Maybe he broke her like he said he would.

She also testified as to MB’s financial position. He did have a cash flow problem he told her about and it was because he had to come up with the $965,000 for his ex. She testified that the divorce was final in December 2018 and on 3/24/2019 he texted her that after being clipped for $965,000, it was hard to feel good. She also testified he had horses worth approximately $1M and the two places were worth millions.so while he was worth millions he actually did have a cash flow problem at the time.

And?

Did you expect that everyone being abused by LK would just roll over and die? That they would just acquiesce?

LK is the first one to threaten and go for the throat as I learned from experience here. So if someone decides to fight back then according to you THEY’RE the bad guys?

Nice try but not even close.

As for cash flow problem: even if true so damn what? Lots of people have cash flow problems. I have too in the past despite having assets.

You seem to want punish people for having normal reactions to bullying, coercion and abuse.

Sounds familiar.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@PDDT

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think there was a text from MB to MHG saying that he would get LK banned for life from USEF, at a time when he was on the USEF board of directors. It’s not saying USEF is unethical to say that MB may have believed that, as a director, his complaint against LK would carry weight.

Where would you have seen a text between MB and MHG? I don’t recall any being entered into evidence at the trial.

If I understand what you are saying, you are making a bald assertion that MB believed the USEF would behave unethically by being influenced by one of the directors. If you make that assertion with apparently no evidence, it follows that you have fabricated possible unethical behavior on the part of the USEF out of thin air and fairy dust.

You may not have intended to cast aspersions on the USEF, but I think you have made a serious accusation.

MHG testified about a text from MB to MHG that MHG had to read in court where MB wrote her on 7/30/2019 that he would get LK a lifetime ban from USEF. She also testified that a complaint was sent by email to USDF and USEF about LK by both MHG and MB together I think on the same day.

The USEF connection is the gal he mentored. I am not aware of any favoritism or cronyism shown by USEF or USDF in their handling of this situation.

I have wondered if that gal he mentored helped get LK stalls at the facility she currently boards her horses.

You mean that text there is no copy of and no one references anywhere? The one that doesn’t exist? The one piece of evidence that LK forgot to keep or transmit to anyone as proof?

MHG read several texts during her testimony.

Right at the beginning of her testimony, she does state she entered into a romantic relationship with MB in 2015.

She read one from July 13, 2019 from MB to her stating words to the effect of trust me, I’ll make it so bad they will be begging to leave. I know how and I’m good at it.

She read one from July 30, 2029 from MB to her stating contact everyone who has ever been screwed by LK and her dad as he was going to get LK a lifetime ban from USDF.

She testified they emailed USDF and USEF on that same day.

She testified that August 3, 2019 he had her father everyone and they (LK, RG, JK) will be broken by sheer numbers. That day she also asked MB why they couldn’t just ask LK to leave because no one had.

She testified that on August 6 they mailed the 756 page report to SafeSport.

I think LK was still singing MB’s praises on the 13th. Maybe he broke her like he said he would.

She also testified as to MB’s financial position. He did have a cash flow problem he told her about and it was because he had to come up with the $965,000 for his ex. She testified that the divorce was final in December 2018 and on 3/24/2019 he texted her that after being clipped for $965,000, it was hard to feel good. She also testified he had horses worth approximately $1M and the two places were worth millions.so while he was worth millions he actually did have a cash flow problem at the time.

And?

Did you expect that everyone being abused by LK would just roll over and die? That they would just acquiesce?

LK is the first one to threaten and go for the throat as I learned from experience here. So if someone decides to fight back then according to you THEY’RE the bad guys?

Nice try but not even close.

As for cash flow problem: even if true so damn what? Lots of people have cash flow problems. I have too in the past despite having assets.

You seem to want punish people for having normal reactions to bullying, coercion and abuse.

Sounds familiar.

I completely believed you and was horrified when you first posted she threatened you. Then I saw how you treat people with differing opinions, including me, LK posted about the exchange with you quoting the exact words I’ve seen you use on others, and the actual Facebook about the Walthers was posted. You were attacking her before she counter attacked.

From all accounts you have survived tremendous struggles and had a successful career and someone said you were still riding. Awesome.

Why are you then so mean?

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@ekat

@eggbutt

expect the civil trial will be no holds barred and the Kanarek family & others will be front and center. Take the Deininger court filing against the MCPD and add to it! Just my fantasies at work

Just one paragraph from MB’s counter suit by Mr Deininger:

“5. Kanarek has a history of tortious and/or criminal, antisocial behavior, including but not limited to stalking; bullying; threats of harm, injury, and mayhem against persons she chooses to target; threats against public figures; gaslighting; fraud; false reports; and other behaviors which are harmful, injurious, and destructive to the people she victimizes.”

While she was trashing him on social media, he was trying to break her then he shot her. Not the same.

Oh please. HE was trying to break HER?

If she thought that then why not go? Why stay?

WHY DID SHE THINK SHE WAS ENTITLED TO STAY?

Any statement such as the one you make here is rendered moot by the fact that she didn’t go and was instead fighting to stay.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@PDDT

@CurrentlyHorseless

I think there was a text from MB to MHG saying that he would get LK banned for life from USEF, at a time when he was on the USEF board of directors. It’s not saying USEF is unethical to say that MB may have believed that, as a director, his complaint against LK would carry weight.

Where would you have seen a text between MB and MHG? I don’t recall any being entered into evidence at the trial.

If I understand what you are saying, you are making a bald assertion that MB believed the USEF would behave unethically by being influenced by one of the directors. If you make that assertion with apparently no evidence, it follows that you have fabricated possible unethical behavior on the part of the USEF out of thin air and fairy dust.

You may not have intended to cast aspersions on the USEF, but I think you have made a serious accusation.

MHG testified about a text from MB to MHG that MHG had to read in court where MB wrote her on 7/30/2019 that he would get LK a lifetime ban from USEF. She also testified that a complaint was sent by email to USDF and USEF about LK by both MHG and MB together I think on the same day.

The USEF connection is the gal he mentored. I am not aware of any favoritism or cronyism shown by USEF or USDF in their handling of this situation.

I have wondered if that gal he mentored helped get LK stalls at the facility she currently boards her horses.

You mean that text there is no copy of and no one references anywhere? The one that doesn’t exist? The one piece of evidence that LK forgot to keep or transmit to anyone as proof?

MHG read several texts during her testimony.

Right at the beginning of her testimony, she does state she entered into a romantic relationship with MB in 2015.

She read one from July 13, 2019 from MB to her stating words to the effect of trust me, I’ll make it so bad they will be begging to leave. I know how and I’m good at it.

She read one from July 30, 2029 from MB to her stating contact everyone who has ever been screwed by LK and her dad as he was going to get LK a lifetime ban from USDF.

She testified they emailed USDF and USEF on that same day.

She testified that August 3, 2019 he had her father everyone and they (LK, RG, JK) will be broken by sheer numbers. That day she also asked MB why they couldn’t just ask LK to leave because no one had.

She testified that on August 6 they mailed the 756 page report to SafeSport.

I think LK was still singing MB’s praises on the 13th. Maybe he broke her like he said he would.

She also testified as to MB’s financial position. He did have a cash flow problem he told her about and it was because he had to come up with the $965,000 for his ex. She testified that the divorce was final in December 2018 and on 3/24/2019 he texted her that after being clipped for $965,000, it was hard to feel good. She also testified he had horses worth approximately $1M and the two places were worth millions.so while he was worth millions he actually did have a cash flow problem at the time.

And?

Did you expect that everyone being abused by LK would just roll over and die? That they would just acquiesce?

LK is the first one to threaten and go for the throat as I learned from experience here. So if someone decides to fight back then according to you THEY’RE the bad guys?

Nice try but not even close.

As for cash flow problem: even if true so damn what? Lots of people have cash flow problems. I have too in the past despite having assets.

You seem to want punish people for having normal reactions to bullying, coercion and abuse.

Sounds familiar.

I completely believed you and was horrified when you first posted she threatened you. Then I saw how you treat people with differing opinions, including me, LK posted about the exchange with you quoting the exact words I’ve seen you use on others, and the actual Facebook about the Walthers was posted. You were attacking her before she counter attacked.

From all accounts you have survived tremendous struggles and had a successful career and someone said you were still riding. Awesome.

Why are you then so mean?

I am not mean. I am a reflection. I reflect back what was set to me. I react to intent.

LKs intent was to crush me if she could. That’s what she does to people.

Some people do it back.

It’s called karma.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

The USEF connection is the gal he mentored. I am not aware of any favoritism or cronyism shown by USEF or USDF in their handling of this situation.

You mean Ali Brock, the Rio Olympic Dressage medalist who testified on behalf of MB and how broken he was. That LK smeared on FB by alleging she and several other people in the USEF leadership were engaged in outright fraud.

[hut-ho78]

@ekat

@hut-ho78

While she was trashing him on social media, he was trying to break her then he shot her. Not the same.

Who broke whom?

Couple more paragraphs from the civil suit:

11. At all times relevant hereto, Kanarek’s wrongful acts, actions, and omissions included, for example, making false accusation of child abuse, false accusations of animal abuse, false accusation of insurance fraud, false reports to agencies providing child-protective-services, and other falsehoods through which her intention was to cause harm.

12. For example, Kanarek harassed Barisone by utilizing technology to “bug” (i.e., unlawfully eves drop) upon private conversation Barisone was having; and/or, alternatively, harassed Barisone for purposes of causing him severe and significant emotional distress by claiming that she had unlawful eves-dropping of Barisone’s residence and/or business for purposes of stalking him and Barisone Family members

Kind of ironic with people posting stuff about poking the bear and it turns out he was trying to make her life so unpleasant she would be begging to leave and then breaking her with numbers.

Two people who triggered the worst in each other.

How do you not see that they were both fragile and needed help?

I don’t believe she broke him because I don’t think she is capable of carrying out a plot. I think it took everything just to make it to lessons and ride. Now people say she doesn’t. He broke her. They are two broken people right now.

I don’t think he will be released because I suspect he has underlying problems exacerbated by the stress he was under.

I also left off where MHG testified he told her about the monthly costs and how he couldn’t sleep trying to keep it going. That wasn’t LK’s doing. That was his normal daily stress. You left that off too.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@hut-ho78

The USEF connection is the gal he mentored. I am not aware of any favoritism or cronyism shown by USEF or USDF in their handling of this situation.

You mean Ali Brock, the Rio Olympic Dressage medalist who testified on behalf of MB and how broken he was. That LK smeared on FB by alleging she and several other people in the USEF leadership were engaged in outright fraud.

Yes, that one and as I said, I’ve seen or heard of no sign of fraud whatsoever. I still suspect Ali helped find a place for her horses when she was in the hospital. Maybe not. Maybe it was someone else.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@ekat

@hut-ho78

While she was trashing him on social media, he was trying to break her then he shot her. Not the same.

Who broke whom?

Couple more paragraphs from the civil suit:

11. At all times relevant hereto, Kanarek’s wrongful acts, actions, and omissions included, for example, making false accusation of child abuse, false accusations of animal abuse, false accusation of insurance fraud, false reports to agencies providing child-protective-services, and other falsehoods through which her intention was to cause harm.

12. For example, Kanarek harassed Barisone by utilizing technology to “bug” (i.e., unlawfully eves drop) upon private conversation Barisone was having; and/or, alternatively, harassed Barisone for purposes of causing him severe and significant emotional distress by claiming that she had unlawful eves-dropping of Barisone’s residence and/or business for purposes of stalking him and Barisone Family members

Kind of ironic with people posting stuff about poking the bear and it turns out he was trying to make her life so unpleasant she would be begging to leave and then breaking her with numbers.

Two people who triggered the worst in each other.

How do you not see that they were both fragile and needed help?

I don’t believe she broke him because I don’t think she is capable of carrying out a plot. I think it took everything just to make it to lessons and ride. Now people say she doesn’t. He broke her. They are two broken people right now.

I don’t think he will be released because I suspect he has underlying problems exacerbated by the stress he was under.

I also left off where MHG testified he told her about the monthly costs and how he couldn’t sleep trying to keep it going. That wasn’t LK’s doing. That was his normal daily stress. You left that off too.

For a broken person she sure does get around threatening people. Even in YouTube comments she threatens to tell the Judge (Taylor) on certain commenters.

She’s not broken the way you imply she’s broken. It’s another way that predates MB and many other dramas.

[Sdel]

@ekat

Here’s the text MHG read in court:

“ I need every single person who has ever been screwed by Lauren, Rob, and the dad. Farriers, vets, trainers, every single one. I’m going to get her a lifetime ban as a competitor “

Which is not the same thing LK was trying to testify about. Because when she was writing her weird FB posts pre-shooting that referred to that, she wouldn’t (shouldn’t) have known about a text between MB and MHG, which is why she saw it on Twitter, some random person showed it to her, etc.

Fun fact, there are apps out there that can be downloaded onto a person’s phone and it will record voice phone calls, text, messenger apps email, and other phone activity to a cloud account. Since the conversation that was about getting rid of LK was from a text, I wonder if the 70 recordings are from such an app and maybe that is why they were not able to be used.

[ekat]

@hut-ho78

Kind of ironic with people posting stuff about poking the bear and it turns out he was trying to make her life so unpleasant she would be begging to leave and then breaking her with numbers

Why? Why did he want her to leave? Just cuz?

MB’s finances were what they were before LK came into his life. The $$ she was supposed to be paying him wasn’t a great windfall or anything. It barely covered the costs of her and her horses being there when you factor in everything. I “left off” that text because it’s irrelevant to 99% of the people who watched the trial not named Kanarek. His financial situation wasn’t parading around in a ninja outfit, playing loud music in the barns late at night, posting threats (her words, under oath) on FB, secretly recording his conversations and posting them on FB, etc…

I’m not saying MB made great decisions. But he was driven to it. She’s the one who so glibly admitted in court, under oath, that she had “a plan to ruin him.”

You can continue to think otherwise, and that’s cool.

[ekat]

@Knights_Mom

For a broken person she sure does get around threatening people. Even in YouTube comments she threatens to tell the Judge (Taylor) on certain commenters.

She went after one person in the YouTube comments hard enough they involved their local police. Of course, most of that has now been deleted.

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

I still suspect Ali helped find a place for her horses when she was in the hospital. Maybe not. Maybe it was someone else.

It was definitely someone else. Perhaps they no longer want to be involved with LK or this situation.

[Sdel]

So, here is the rest of the manifesto. It’s rather contrary to a few pet theories…

[Knights_Mom]

@ekat

@Knights_Mom

For a broken person she sure does get around threatening people. Even in YouTube comments she threatens to tell the Judge (Taylor) on certain commenters.

She went after one person in the YouTube comments hard enough they involved their local police. Of course, most of that has now been deleted.

I did not know that.

What a stupid thing to do if you wish to look like an innocent victim!!