Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[Angela_Freda]

@MHM

Circling back to the testimony this morning about the time LK went face to face with MB in the driveway and pretty much chased him back to his truck and then wouldn’t let him get in his truck to leave, or something like that.

Once again, I wonder how many members of the (mostly male) jury will have that description ring a bell for them in their own memories.

Yep, same thought here.
Alas DH isn’t able to listen today to weigh in.

That whole scene, which she admits to, when you add to the other things she’s agreed she’s said/posted seems like a picture of someone who talks big, and maybe too much, such that she intentionally or not, made him feel cornered.

[Knights_Mom]

To many of us there were always numerous inconsistencies and obvious lies within her story. Those seeds are now blooming.

[Davignport]

I sincerely hope than when the witnesses for the defense are called, we will hear just how horrible she made things for everyone in that barn without the judge shooting it down. He certainly seems on the prosecution’s side. The jury really needs to hear just what a menace she is and what is was really like there.

[MHM]

@RND

@MHM

Or it could be interpreted that he was prepared to shoot the dog if it attacked him.

Which would be undesirable, but a completely different thing.

I’m still not buying this explanation but we’ll never know for sure. Bilinkas can’t prove this theory without MB’s testimony, so there’s no way (at this point) to say he didn’t go down there prepared to shoot someone.

If MB does not remember, there’s no way I can see to prove his intentions either way. But I think the dog explanation could be logical enough for reasonable doubt. Or it seems reasonable to me, anyway.

Especially since there is documentation that the dog had attacked and bitten another person quite recently.

[Angela_Freda]

@RND

I’m still not buying this explanation but we’ll never know for sure. Bilinkas can’t prove this theory without MB’s testimony, so there’s no way (at this point) to say he didn’t go down there prepared to shoot someone.

It creates doubt that her/their story is accurate, considering how they/she routinely says/posts/texts/etc things they/she don’t mean literally, except when they do…

[MHM]

@Angela_Freda

Yep, same thought here.
Alas DH isn’t able to listen today to weigh in.

Make him listen to it over dinner tonight and tell us what he says! Lol.

[Ghazzu]

@MHM

f MB does not remember, there’s no way I can see to prove his intentions either way. But I think the dog explanation could be logical enough for reasonable doubt. Or it seems reasonable to me, anyway.

Especially since there is documentation that the dog had attacked and bitten another person quite recently.

Again, IANAL, but thedefense doesn’t really have to prove anything, do they? They just need to put sufficient holes in the prosecution’s case to introduce reasonable doubt.

[anon68314200]

OK well I I think the effects of trauma on the body and its Consequences on memory have been well proven and discussed in the past few decades.

And as computer programmers are learning the human brain and memory does does not see things it’s “sees” meaning. In short the human brain is not a video auditory or kinesthetic recorder it is a parser of meaning.

[MHM]

@Ghazzu

Again, IANAL, but thedefense doesn’t really have to prove anything, do they? They just need to put sufficient holes in the prosecution’s case to introduce reasonable doubt.

That’s the way I understand it.

[caffeinated]

In this case because of the affirmative defense I do believe they will need to prove a few things, especially regarding MB’s mental state.

[Sdel]

Here is the thing…LK posts she owns a 9mm that is kept in NC, but also admits under oath that she lies in her social media posts. RC’s gun was a 9 mm. Now we have LK testifying that she/RG had gone in and out of the house several times “after the shooting”. The police found 0 bullets, and so could not provide any testing that definitively says RC’s gun shot the bullets.

The only physical evidence is GSR on MB’s hands, which is highly transferable, so he could have gotten on him at anytime without necessarily having shot the gun. Plus, LK’s clothing had no GSR on it. And RG was never searched and left to chase a dog through the area. Plus we have a magazine that is testified to as just showing up and the officer didn’t know how it got there…

[enjoytheride]

@anon68314200

OK well I I think the effects of trauma on the body and its Consequences on memory have been well proven and discussed in the past few decades.

And as computer programmers are learning the human brain and memory does does not see things it’s “sees” meaning. In short the human brain is not a video auditory or kinesthetic recorder it is a parser of meaning.

So then why put her on the stand if her memory was unreliable due to injury? Why take that risk that she discredit herself due to her trauma making her unable to be consistent?

[Fat_Dinah]

The prosecutor had to call her as a witness. How else or who else would testify to the incident?

[Angela_Freda]

@Sdel

Here is the thing…LK posts she owns a 9mm that is kept in NC, but also admits under oath that she lies in her social media posts. RC’s gun was a 9 mm. Now we have LK testifying that she/RG had gone in and out of the house several times “after the shooting”. The police found 0 bullets, and so could not provide any testing that definitively says RC’s gun shot the bullets.

The only physical evidence is GSR on MB’s hands, which is highly transferable, so he could have gotten on him at anytime without necessarily having shot the gun. Plus, LK’s clothing had no GSR on it. And RG was never searched and left to chase a dog through the area. Plus we have a magazine that is testified to as just showing up and the officer didn’t know how it got there…

And again today I thought I heard mentioned her second gun…

[Angela_Freda]

RG could

[splitrockfarmnc]

Unless he didn’t actually witness the incident

[LexInVA]

Someone who met LK and RG after the incident, when they relocated to FL said that JK was worried that RG was going to leave LK after he bought the house for her to live in. RG has been mooching off of LK’s money for years, so I can’t see that happening, but RG apparently told this person there was some drama between himself and JK over the house. Also, notice that RG has consistently been referred to as “boyfriend” instead of the previously used title of “fiance” in this testimony. That seems like a downgrade.

[Ghazzu]

@caffeinated

In this case because of the affirmative defense I do believe they will need to prove a few things, especially regarding MB’s mental state.

I would be interested to hear from one of the legal beagles as to what the jury’s options are–
are they limited to 1) self-defense, or 2) insanity, or could they simply say “not guilty”, because there is reasonable doubt about what went down?

[Hope_And_A_Prayer]

I’m wondering . . . just throwing this out there . . . If MB went to the house with the gun for whatever reason, and she started verbally attacking him and charging at him to back him up (as she texted someone and has testified about) and started attacking him physically and that he pulled the gun at that time in self defense?

[RND]

@MHM

If MB does not remember, there’s no way I can see to prove his intentions either way. But I think the dog explanation could be logical enough for reasonable doubt. Or it seems reasonable to me, anyway.

Especially since there is documentation that the dog had attacked and bitten another person quite recently.

Yep, you’re not wrong about his intentions. But he took a gun there (as far as we know at this point) and shot LK (I think if there was any doubt about this, he wouldn’t be pleading self defense and insanity. He’s admitting by his pleas that he shot her).

But I really feel at this point that anything could happen, especially when RG takes the stand. LK threw him under the bus quite a few times if I remember correctly. We will see!