The staff was also living on the farm and scared enough to move into the barn. Perhaps they were afraid she’d do something to the horses on the farm if they all left. MB mentioned threats to the horses in the police lawsuit.
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whats the angle on the dog? Anyone have insight on that?
So, from what I gather, the cops never secured the scene?
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Yes, I feel like he is setting up that RG was never searched, may/may not have left the view of the officers, and the scene was never officially secured.
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So RG didn’t go all the way in the house when he put the dog inside. Interesting.
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I see what you’re doing here, but he should’ve never been put in such a place where he’d feel like he’d have to leave his home, his stable, his business, his clients, his staff, and his horses. Perhaps if he fled, that would make the staff even more nervous/uneasy.
The “best” solution would’ve been for LK to leave. Idk why it was so hard for either of them to say this isn’t working, and just go separate ways, but this is the horse world where drama is alive and kicking. Should’ve never gone this far though.
Even if you take all names out of the scenario and look as objectively as possible, I could see why the person in MB’s role would stay. It’s also possible he didn’t realize that he actually capable of such a thing (shooting) until it happened.
Obviously there are dozens of “shoulda coulda woulda” type of scenarios, but this is what happened, so this is what has to be dealt with.
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It was not fully secured until after the shooting, as the county made their moves to search the property, with the authority of a court-issued warrant.
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This issue exists all the way up to the national level. Some people think Ukraine is liable for damage to their country for not surrendering to Russia. Other people think it is crazy to submit to such an attack as Russia has perpetrated. George Washington knew that it mattered less who won each battle, so long as he kept the army running. Who should yield is the primary crux of the conflict. So saying this or that person ‘should have’ is just picking a side. Not asserting a moral truth.
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Seems to me they should have immediately handcuffed RG as well as Barisone and attended to LK as she was he one in immediate danger of dying. This looks like a Keystone Cops scenario.
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I don’t know what scares MB but I sure know she’s lied about me multiple times. If I were having a mental breakdown, under constant attack from the Kanarek assault, losing sleep, basically homeless, RG making a gun hand gesture toward me, etc, etc, etc, I could see myself becoming afraid enough to seek protection, and take her posts seriously particularly if the police had been zero help in the previous days.
So, you are making a case that LK was lying when she made provocative posts to intimidate MB, but she was truthful when she posted how afraid she was of him? Frankly, your logic is confusing.
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Ok. I’m not on LK or MB’s side. Just to make that clear. I am not the side of “it makes more sense for the client to leave” but I could also change my mind based off of various details. I’m not soo fixed, just my general opinion/assessment. I don’t care to get into a Russia/Ukraine discussion on this thread, but I see what you mean.
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Yes perfectly fair. I just wanted to point out that these human conflicts exist at every layer of the big, stinky human onion.
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Did you notice several locations of magazine cartridges at various locations on the property diagram? Perhaps he will be closing the loop by suggesting those magazines could have been intentionally dropped by RG as he was chasing the dog around.
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I agree that it definitely would have made more sense for LK to leave, but she didn’t and it seems pretty clear that she was not going to be persuaded otherwise. If MB was really afraid for his life, one option he could have taken, rather than shoot LK, would have been to leave.
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Yep! That’s a good point, and quite true.
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No, I have not stated anywhere that I believe LK was being truthful when she posted that she was afraid of him.
Yes, perhaps. I think hiring the security was sort of the happy medium (nothing happy about it!) for him. Possibly hoping to stay on the property but be/feel a bit safer…but it still all ended in a shooting.
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I just cannot believe the cops allowed RG to be running around and not securing the scene.
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He owned the place. Saying he should have been the one to leave is weird.
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Why continue to rehash the same stuff you’ve been doing for 2 years. Cripes the trial will be over and some here will continue the topic indefinitely.
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