Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[MHM]

@Ghazzu

@MHM

I will just point out that I did not actually say the words “drug addict.”

Ah, you’re just afraid of the lawsuit and the lein on all your property.
Chicken

I just don’t want to have to explain the whole situation to my brother (who is also my attorney) over Easter dinner. Lol.

[hut-ho78]

@MorganSercu

She certainly was adamant that RG was owed money and not a small chunk of change for renovation work. But the handyman didn’t think to unplug a dryer.

LK testified they were not supposed to be in the barn then and no one would respond to her texts and that she asked if someone would unplug the dryer. Then, no one responded they went to the FM and BI.

[soloudinhere]

@CurrentlyHorseless

MB needed to keep LK as a client for her money, and he needed to get rid of her to please MHG.

Considering she wasn’t paying anywhere near market rate, I’m not sure that is/was true. I’m sure he would have been better served bringing in 4 quality horses and their owners paying full freight.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

LK had nothing to do with with MB losing VK as a spouse and business partner. MHG did.

With all that stress, MHG then got into a war with LK. MB needed to keep LK as a client for her money, and he needed to get rid of her to please MHG. More stress.

What a familiar narrative! Did I read a similar post some time ago by IM. I really can’t recall.

Blame it all on MHG. Got it.

[MHM]

@Sdel

@MHM

@hut-ho78

MB was the last known keeper of the Ruger

Known by whom?

By you? Or by the two people who demonstrated that they lie, even under oath on the witness stand, whether you noticed or not?

That also texted about being able to access the office and could therefore engage in nefarious acts.

That, too.

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@FitzE

@eggbutt

Let’s correct one huge error in @hut-ho78’s post…MB and VB were already separated and she had moved on by the time LK entered the scene. LK seems to like everyone thinking she has been in MB’s life much longer than she really has.

Wait, what? LK and VK were not on the farm at the same time?

I noticed just during the week or fortnight before the trial started, a couple posters (hutho, currentlyhorseless, I think sierramist) came on and started to push a certain narrative. It came in different forms, but there were a couple talking points that were consistent throughout: VK leaving stressed MB b/c VK had taken care of most/all of the logistics of the business; MB had money stress; and MB might have gone on to kill more people had RG not stopped him.

Setting aside how likely any of those are, if VK and LK were not even there at the same time, that seems another huge inconsistency in this new party line about what happened and why.

Is it in dispute that the affair with MHG started while MB was still married to VK? I have no idea whether VK was driven away sometime in 2018 (when LK was present) or previous to 2018.

You are correct that my view of the tragedy (my narrative) is that huge stress was placed on MB by the breakup of his marriage, which severely damaged the smooth operation of his business and created financial stress when he had to divide assets with his ex wife. It seems even fairly amicable divorces are very stressful.

LK had nothing to do with with MB losing VK as a spouse and business partner. MHG did.

With all that stress, MHG then got into a war with LK. MB needed to keep LK as a client for her money, and he needed to get rid of her to please MHG. More stress.

Nobody cares about Vera and MB breaking up and why. Not the sword to die on dude.

Just makes it look like you have nothing else to say and makes us remember IMs posts about LK coveting MHGs position as top noodle.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@DownYonder

@Libby2563

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Good point. I had not considered that a round might have been deflected by bone. I can’t remember if the surgeon mentioned damage to ribs, etc., but I would think a round entering the upper chest would have had to hit the first or second rib in order for such deflection to occur. And it seems that such a shot at “point blank range” would have certainly damaged the rib - maybe even shattering it (?).

Maybe after entering the chest cavity, the bullet hit the scapula and was deflected.

[soloudinhere]

Someone can correct me but didn’t she add the $40k she paid for a horse that she then owned and held title to in the $50k that she felt was ‘owed?’

That’s what I thought I heard but I didn’t watch her testimony continuously.

[FitzE]

Your response does not address my question at all: several posters and LK herself have represented that she was on the farm at the same time VK was on the farm. Is that accurate or not? That was my only question. I don’t know or care about the affair and when it happened. It is not germane to my question.

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

Regardless of any negatives, he came through when it counted. If he kept running, MB could have put in the second clip and finished him off, left LK to bleed out and gone to the barn to say he solved the problem. What would have happened then to MH and her dad or anyone who tried to intervene JH, RC, barn staff?

what second clip?
Heymer only found the clip that was in the gun iirc.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@MorganSercu

I still chuckle at two grown adults, in tbeir 40’s no less, one of whom is renovating a house and owed $50,000 (per Lauren Kanarek) and yet apparently didn’t know how to UNPLUG A DRYER.

Yet the “renovator” was prohibited from presenting his bill! Didn’t La-La say the older couple involved in one of her law suits said they acknowledged the debt was owed and would pay? But wait, she also said they “begged” them to stay on the property. Sure they did.

It was IM who said that SGF acknowledged the debt to RG, not LK.

We no longer believe anything posted on social media due to LKs sworn statement that she lies on SM.

So we cannot also trust any post in which she is the source of information.

I’m looking forward to the testimony on the FB post you have told us about, the one you described as LK saying she owned a Ruger, the one LK said she never made. Haven’t heard anything on that yet. Maybe when the defense lawyer starts the defense portion, if any evidence exists.

[anon68314200]

I thought what she was saying there was that at that point she wasn’t allowed up at the barn and she kept texting them asking them to confirm that they had unplugged it or something like that

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

@eggbutt

@MorganSercu

I still chuckle at two grown adults, in tbeir 40’s no less, one of whom is renovating a house and owed $50,000 (per Lauren Kanarek) and yet apparently didn’t know how to UNPLUG A DRYER.

Yet the “renovator” was prohibited from presenting his bill! Didn’t La-La say the older couple involved in one of her law suits said they acknowledged the debt was owed and would pay? But wait, she also said they “begged” them to stay on the property. Sure they did.

It was IM who said that SGF acknowledged the debt to RG, not LK.

We no longer believe anything posted on social media due to LKs sworn statement that she lies on SM.

So we cannot also trust any post in which she is the source of information.

I’m looking forward to the testimony on the FB post you have told us about, the one you described as LK saying she owned a Ruger, the one LK said she never made. Haven’t heard anything on that yet. Maybe when the defense lawyer starts the defense portion, if any evidence exists.

Awww it’s so sweet of you to be thinking of me.

Sadly, I’m not the one who testified in court, under oath, that I lie on social media.

But guess who did!

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

That and she was shot twice and the house was shot and MB was the last known keeper of the Ruger and he drove over there. I keep going back over testimony for what I missed. I think GSR on MB’s hands, nothing from the other technology on LK’s shirt.

You mean the shirt and jacket where her blood was magically washed away but of course GSR wouldn’t be in your mind?

The half her blood that was lost per the doctor testimony and the clamp on the aorta and blood products used and flatlining?

[soloudinhere]

@hut-ho78

I’m looking forward to the testimony on the FB post you have told us about, the one you described as LK saying she owned a Ruger, the one LK said she never made. Haven’t heard anything on that yet.

This ol’ chestnut, eh?

[MHM]

@MorganSercu

She certainly was adamant that RG was owed money and not a small chunk of change for renovation work. But the handyman didn’t think to unplug a dryer.

One thing you have to say for LK.

She really likes to leave receipts strewn about everywhere. EVERYWHERE.

[Angela_Freda]

No, she was there, in the barn.
She was never not allowed in the barn, see their testimony that they were dealing with cellulitis leg twice daily.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

That and she was shot twice and the house was shot and MB was the last known keeper of the Ruger and he drove over there. I keep going back over testimony for what I missed. I think GSR on MB’s hands, nothing from the other technology on LK’s shirt.

You mean the shirt and jacket where her blood was magically washed away but of course GSR wouldn’t be in your mind?

The half her blood that was lost per the doctor testimony and the clamp on the aorta and blood products used and flatlining?

That was in the hospital in the ER. That’s why that doc could testify to it. He had to deal with it. Then. When they opened her up. At the hospital. With that doctor. In hospital.

Got it?

[rothmpp]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Is it in dispute that the affair with MHG started while MB was still married to VK? I have no idea whether VK was driven away sometime in 2018 (when LK was present) or previous to 2018.

You are correct that my view of the tragedy (my narrative) is that huge stress was placed on MB by the breakup of his marriage, which severely damaged the smooth operation of his business and created financial stress when he had to divide assets with his ex wife. It seems even fairly amicable divorces are very stressful.

LK had nothing to do with with MB losing VK as a spouse and business partner. MHG did.

With all that stress, MHG then got into a war with LK. MB needed to keep LK as a client for her money, and he needed to get rid of her to please MHG. More stress.

You do know that divorces can take YEARS to finalize sometime? Especially ones that involve a business with substantial assets that need to be divided.

I know nothing about the dissolution of VK/MB marriage, how long they were separated romantically, when MHG came into the picture, what the arrangement that they made regarding the summer 2018 occupancy of the NJ farm, any of that. But characterizing the relationship between MHG and MB as an affair may be an exaggeration. They all lived on the NJ property together in relative harmony to outside observation in 2018.

[FitzE]

@hut-ho78

LK testified they were not supposed to be in the barn then and no one would respond to her texts and that she asked if someone would unplug the dryer. Then, no one responded they went to the FM and BI.

But they testified that they heard the drying running and it wouldn’t stop and they heard the WS tell RC that it wasn’t stopping. Thus, they WERE in the barn at that time in order to hear all this. So they could also have unplugged it. Leaving it running and going off to dictate/hand write a 2 page letter and delivering it to the township the next day is not exactly what you’d call an immediate response for safety.