Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[McGurk]

Yes, big differences from state to state.

[Graymaresrule]

IIRC Parra got a new horse in training and abused him so badly he died. The horse’s name was William or similar. It’s been well over 10 years. There was a thing on Rate my horse pro and a lawsuits but I don’t think anything came of it.

The videos were heartbreaking

[hut-ho78]

Never filed the papers. Trying to scare her out. Ugh.

[Roser123]

@anon68314200

Yeah…. And all this talk of how afraid and stressed out and “out of it” MB was only makes it seem more plausible he shot her. Not less.

Yes, but even more so, this testimony (actually MUCH of this mornings testimony) only goes to show further what a disturbed and dishonest person LK is. Absolutely crazy town.

[TwiSedai]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

The letter said she was supposed to vacate the farm on 8/7.

Well…technically she did.

[caffeinated]

That was certainly a bad move.

[endlessclimb]

Trying to scare her into honoring the agreement that her father was a part of.

[anon68314200]

If MB had “accumulated wealth in the millions” then why not pay a professional to fix the damage to the house. ? I don’t get the whole arrangement.

This is certainly an interesting tour thru the legal system. Lawyers sending phony paperwork to ‘scare’ people.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Huh. So they chose to serve LK with eviction papers that had not yet been filed, because the goal was to “scare” LK into realizing they were serious about her leaving, and get her to just go ahead and do it voluntarily.

I get it, but that didn’t come across great.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@McGurk

There’s an interesting nuance to the whole trespassing thing, based on my experiences many years ago with someone breaking into my apartment.

Everyone who came to talk to/counsel us about the incident (there was a lot of service provided: wealthy county, white college girls…) told us absolutely, positively that anyone entering a house/room with people sleeping could be presumed to intend you harm; that burglars and general thieves greatly preferred empty homes.

The cops also blithely assured us that if we had guns, we could absolutely shoot someone breaking in, they just asked that we make sure the body was inside before we called them; and that no one would prosecute young (white) women for shooting a man trying to break into their residence.

This was long before the stand your ground laws. I believe the castle doctrine did apply.

I was talking about “trespassing” in the sense of someone walking through your back yard.

Breaking into or entering your house is a particular form of trespassing and I agree that in certain states you can shoot someone for that.

FitzE referred to someone on a porch being shot. I was saying that just the fact of being on someone’s front porch and ringing the doorbell does not give you the right to shoot.

If the person on the porch barges in without invitation, that’s different.

[Sticky_Situation]

Agreed. I think it was clear by that point LK was not going to do anything voluntarily.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Joe Williams is on the stand. He’s a barefoot horse trimmer who lives in NJ. Works with horses with behavioral issues.

He’s also a retired detective sergeant, who worked for 25 years in law enforcement.

Hmmm… this will be interesting.

ETA - he was a farrier, but has since taken his whole business barefoot.

[FitzE]

Actually, it is not. It is a kindness. Evictions stay on your rental history for a number of years. If you can get the tenant moving without impacting their record, you are doing them a favour.

[endlessclimb]

This is so common though. Every attorney will try this first.

[anon68314200]

The NJ/PA horse bus in that area is definitely nuts. Melt downs and dramatics are common, so I do get how no one saw this coming.

[Jealoushe]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Huh. So they chose to serve LK with eviction papers that had not yet been filed, because the goal was to “scare” LK into realizing they were serious about her leaving, and get her to just go ahead and do it voluntarily.

I get it, but that didn’t come across great.

This is what I don’t get. MB wanted to make her life hell so she would leave. Then this. These games just fan the toxic atmosphere.

[MorganSercu]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

So they chose to serve LK with eviction papers that had not yet been filed, because the goal was to “scare” LK into realizing they were serious about her leaving, and get her to just go ahead and do it voluntarily.

Or to give her the opportunity to go without it showing up on the record?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@endlessclimb

This is so common though. Every attorney will try this first.

Good to know. I have zero eviction related experience and am admittedly clueless

[endlessclimb]

This (and corporate contracts) is my legal-eagle mother’s specialty.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Joe Williams is on the stand. He’s a barefoot horse trimmer who lives in NJ. Works with horses with behavioral issues.

He’s also a retired detective sergeant, who worked for 25 years in law enforcement.

Hmmm… this will be interesting.

ETA - he was a farrier , but has since taken his whole business barefoot.

This guy helped advise MB on how to file a harassment complaint with the local PD concerning the situation with LK.

Gave other general advice on being careful when trying to get these known drug addicts to leave the property