Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[rothmpp]

So looking at MB again this morning, I’m left wondering if whatever meds they have him on take awhile to take affect in the morning. He’s not looking nearly as with it as yesterday afternoon.

[SillyHorse]

@RND

@Knights_Mom

I’m saying that RND declaring MB as guilty is terrifically premature. And I now add absurd.

I really can’t believe you people didn’t get the joke, but then again, of course you didn’t.

Maybe because it wasn’t a good joke, but a lousy one. Don’t quit your day job if you plan another career as a joke writer.

[Knights_Mom]

@RND

@Knights_Mom

I’m saying that RND declaring MB as guilty is terrifically premature. And I now add absurd.

I really can’t believe you people didn’t get the joke, but then again, of course you didn’t.

Oh that’s right - it’s always a joke. Just like LK talking about her 8 personalities was a joke.

Or as I call it: a disingenuous way to never be accountable for your words.

[eggbutt]

@rothmpp

So looking at MB again this morning, I’m left wondering if whatever meds they have him on take awhile to take affect in the morning. He’s not looking nearly as with it as yesterday afternoon.

I can imagine hearing all this testimony real time is disturbing considering he doesn’t remember the actual event. The police department needs serious retraining.

[Knights_Mom]

@rothmpp

So looking at MB again this morning, I’m left wondering if whatever meds they have him on take awhile to take affect in the morning. He’s not looking nearly as with it as yesterday afternoon.

I think it’s a matter of emotional acclimation to an environment.

[Jealoushe]

Agreed.

[Knights_Mom]

@soloudinhere

Detective indicated that the scene was “not secured” upon his arrival and he “tried to preserve that evidence to the best of my ability while the scene was still chaotic”

Bilinkas is asking him where the 3rd casing is since he was told there were 3 shots fired but only 2 cartridges were recovered.

Just asked him whether the video was preserved, detective said no. Detective said representatives from the prosecutor’s office were also there.

bullets and handgun not submitted for fingerprint or DNA analysis.

Bilinkas asked “did you or anyone to your knowledge get a search warrant to search those vehicles that were included in your crime scene area” “I did not” indicating that two vehicles and a trailer at the crime scene were not searched.

The phone on the patio table is Barisone’s. The other 2 phones were located on the umbrella base (and not on the crime scene diagram?)

Bilinkas has asked if either LK or RG were tested for GSR on their hands. “No”

When asked about testing LK’s clothing for GSR, a debate ensued. Bilinkas was going to withdraw the question and the prosecutor said that the witness could answer. He should have let him withdraw the question. Unfortunately, Bilinkas seems to be failing to drive the truck through the semi-truck sized hole the judge just gave him to cast doubt on the GSR from the clothing.

Wow! That’s a lot of deviation from routine crime scene preservation and evidence gathering! Who doesn’t test for GSR and fingerprints!?

[eggbutt]

@Knights_Mom

@soloudinhere

Detective indicated that the scene was “not secured” upon his arrival and he “tried to preserve that evidence to the best of my ability while the scene was still chaotic”

Bilinkas is asking him where the 3rd casing is since he was told there were 3 shots fired but only 2 cartridges were recovered.

Just asked him whether the video was preserved, detective said no. Detective said representatives from the prosecutor’s office were also there.

bullets and handgun not submitted for fingerprint or DNA analysis.

Bilinkas asked “did you or anyone to your knowledge get a search warrant to search those vehicles that were included in your crime scene area” “I did not” indicating that two vehicles and a trailer at the crime scene were not searched.

The phone on the patio table is Barisone’s. The other 2 phones were located on the umbrella base (and not on the crime scene diagram?)

Bilinkas has asked if either LK or RG were tested for GSR on their hands. “No”

When asked about testing LK’s clothing for GSR, a debate ensued. Bilinkas was going to withdraw the question and the prosecutor said that the witness could answer. He should have let him withdraw the question. Unfortunately, Bilinkas seems to be failing to drive the truck through the semi-truck sized hole the judge just gave him to cast doubt on the GSR from the clothing.

Wow! That’s a lot of deviation from routine crime scene preservation and evidence gathering! Who doesn’t test for GSR and fingerprints!?

And All based on RG’s first statements to the police!

[Jealoushe]

sadly it happens a lot. Check out Dellan Millard case off the top of my head.

Seems like a lot pf people want the police to be on trial.

Is NJ a more pro police or pro ACAB type State? Can anyone advise?

[eggbutt]

@Jealoushe

Seems like a lot pf people want the police to be on trial.

The police procedures are ALWAYS on trial in felony cases! How many people have been convicted or exonerated totally due to procedures at the scene? These cops bungled this investigation and proceeded 100% on RG’s first statement.

[Knights_Mom]

@Jealoushe

sadly it happens a lot. Check out Dellan Millard case off the top of my head.

Seems like a lot pf people want the police to be on trial.

Is NJ a more pro police or pro ACAB type State? Can anyone advise?

Are you new to criminal trials?

Failure of proper police procedure regarding evidence and securing a scene can establish reasonable doubt of guilt which leads to acquittal.

So yeah, the police actions are 100% on trial.

Just like a witness’ testimony is “on trial” and cross examined.

[eggbutt]

This will be interesting.

[soloudinhere]

Presumptive testing for GSR not done. Only IR photography by an individual with one 8-hour class.

Detective has testified that at least one casing is missing and the bullet that damaged the door and window is not identified.

Bilinkas has asked about a .22 revolver and “numerous long guns” and “boxes of shotgun shells that fit those particular weapons” all of which the detective said is correct, they were located in the gun safe. He should have taken that to some kind of conclusion.

On redirect: metal detectors were used on the scene, but he doesn’t know when/what day they were used. A poor explanation of where the missing shell casing could have gone, like be stuck on someone’s clothing. Detective says within 25 to 30 minutes of arrival on scene the rain started, and nobody was receiving medical attention at the time the rain began, they had been removed from the scene. Does not explain why only 2 shell casings were located, prosecutor tries to imply the third would be submerged in water.

On the camera: they recovered the camera. Detective testified that he has personal experience with the functionality of the cameras. Prosecutor immediately moves on to the defendant’s clothing; I didn’t get the impression that he intended to ask the question that he asked.

Detective just testified that no other clothing was examined using the IR camera after LK’s shirt did not produce IR evidence.

On second redirect, Bilinkas asked if the shell casing locations do not allow anyone to make a determination of where the shell casings are located. Detective agreed that they would not be a reliable reference.

[Ambitious_Kate]

This defense atty is painful to watch. I realize he is trying to think ahead, but he doesn’t seem to be able to get to where he wants to be in his questioning. I assume that me watching him I have a different perspective than he, but its just painful to watch. If anyone has a better reasoning to explain his being so stuck, I’d like to hear it.

[ohnoO]

This detective said that there was no ammo in the safe for MB’s two handguns.

[LexInVA]

NJ is a pro-Public safety state and NJ has A LOT of cops, prison guards, and others who work and live in that state, because of the generous pensions, salaries, and benefits. High-money pensions for retired officers are such a burden that they are crippling municipalities.

[Jealoushe]

@Knights_Mom

Are you new to criminal trials?

Failure of proper police procedure regarding evidence and securing a scene can establish reasonable doubt of guilt which leads to acquittal.

So yeah, the police actions are 100% on trial.

Just like a witness’ testimony is “on trial” and cross examined.

Nope I’m well versed, even been involved in one! I understand that but I was referring to posters here wanting them on trial.

Just because its not right doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

Thanks for your concern

[soloudinhere]

No, he didn’t. He testified that there was ammunition suitable for a .22 revolver on Bilinkas’ cross examination.

[Jealoushe]

@ohnoO

This detective said that there was no ammo in the safe for MB’s two handguns

Thank you for posting this fact, I missed it.

[CanteringCarrot]

No idea about NJ, but I do think the police are open to some level or scrutiny by the public. Especially because they’re supposed to “protect and serve”

I know it’s no easy job by any means, but if people lose faith in the police and their procedures, it’s not pretty, and the US has seen quite a bit of this.

On the one hand I know things can be a bit on the fly with situations that police handle, and it doesn’t all go according to plan. I also don’t want them to feel as though they’re under a microscope and can’t exercise discretion, but there does need to be some standards that they’re held to. Their actions and procedures can be very important and relevant in a criminal trial.