Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[3PonyFarm]

Im curious if the defense will bring up MB going to the police dept in person. The trimmer guy recommended he go do that but I did not see where it was mentioned that he went and was turned away.

[Knights_Mom]

@Rhythm_Pace_Impulsion

Don’t forget she also lurks about in the evenings as a veiled ninja in all black and shoeless…

Thank you for getting me to giggle imagining this scene.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Ambitious_Kate

@Knights_Mom

But where are the scars?

I saw a linear scar around her left torso - think in the shape of half a waistband of a pants, only around the left torso, from the mid-side around her back. There were lower scars under her naval, still on the left side ,for drains. That’s in the photo of her showing her torso and shoulder.

The prosecutor was not allowed to enter the pictures of her wounds as they were deemed prejudicial by the judge. They were described as the cut from the front to the back under her arm when they placed her on her side to clamp the aorta, the entry holes including the damage to the breast implant requiring removal of the destroyed implant, a cut from her lower stomach to her ribs which had to stay open for a while to allow the swollen intestines to move away from the lungs so she could breathe, a hole in her back where the bullets exited. She lost half her blood, was on a ventilator for 8 days, she required another surgery to plug another hole somewhere before she could begin to heal. I can’t remember how long she was in the ICU. So, no lurid photos were allowed but that doesn’t mean there were no scars. Listen to the doctor again on YouTube.

It may be possible i have the same scar in the same place. I do not describe mine that way at all so I am curious.

Also pulling out a chest tube is not fun but they do it fast.

[eggbutt]

@3PonyFarm

Im curious if the defense will bring up MB going to the police dept in person. The trimmer guy recommended he go do that but I did not see where it was mentioned that he went and was turned away.

The judge won’t allow it in because MB can’t testify about it. Unless Michael can discuss it, that event and many others will not be brought up as direct evidence. Bilinkas may find a way to bring some things into his closing though.

[SlamDunk]

Yes I think you’re right, I’m referring to them wrong. I was thinking expert because they were professionals in mental health, I thought they’d give a big more testimony on MB

[hut-ho78]

@Danvers

I too am confused – what was the point of the sweet (looked frightened) girls (Osborne) testimony? That the police didn’t pay attention to her words? And did it sound like the mum is currently in a relationship or was in the past…? This trial is so intense - I had tears watching the witnesses for the defense today - I did replay Philip Dutton testimony… he is a Super Hero! Be still my heart…

The defense wanted to show others were afraid of RG and the dog. It was not relevant to MB’s state of mind so it was not allowed.

The comment about the young woman’s mom being in a romantic relationship showed possible bias so it was allowed.

I found it confusing. Was this back when it happened or is this now? I don’t think it matters for the trial.

[Angela_Freda]

@3PonyFarm

Im curious if the defense will bring up MB going to the police dept in person. The trimmer guy recommended he go do that but I did not see where it was mentioned that he went and was turned away.

How?
There’s no report.
MB can’t testify so anyone else discussing it would be hearsay wouldn’t it?

[3PonyFarm]

Florida is a two party consent state regarding recordings isn’t it?

[Joanne]

@3PonyFarm

Florida is a two party consent state regarding recordings isn’t it?

Yes.

[3PonyFarm]

I wasnt sure if the police that turned him away could be asked about it or not. It makes sense now that it will probably not be brought up.

[Angela_Freda]

@3PonyFarm

I wasnt sure if the police that turned him away could be asked about it or not. It makes sense now that it will probably not be brought up

How do we know who they were without a report?

[eggbutt]

Yeah, that PD has already proven how lax they are about reports.

[3PonyFarm]

I didnt know if the area had video surveillance and that could prove he went, plus I thought some of the cops were ones that came out to the farm on the 911 calls. Ironic, the one time you wish you were recorded.

[SpicyPRE]

And the arrogance on the stand was very off putting to me.

[hut-ho78]

@SlamDunk

I think the dog just gets shut down quickly because it is irrelevant. The working student being afraid of the dog has nothing to do with whether or not Michael was a afraid of the dog. If they wanted, they could introduce evidence of eye witness’s testifying to Micheal’s interactions with the dog but they haven’t (probably because Micheal wasn’t afraid of the dog). They also haven’t entered any evidence of the dog being part of Micheals self defence claim. The defence hasn’t entered any evidence suggesting a version of events with regards to the shooting. They haven’t brought forth an expert in ballistics, any sort of analysis of the crime scene etc. Heck even someone to talk about how it would be possible for Lauren’s shirt to not have gunshot residue but for it to somehow be possible for her to have fired a gun as you guys are suggesting. They haven’t presented any of it, presumably because they can’t, because the evidence doesn’t help them.

In my opinion the defence just throwing the kitchen sink at this and hoping the jury won’t vote him guilty because LK and RG are terrible people. And they definitely are, this isn’t really in dispute. His two expert witnesses were pointless today and did nothing to prove Micheal was criminally insane at the time of the shooting. If anything they proved the opposite, that Michael was struggling mentally but otherwise was pretty coherent (other than the memory loss). One ruled out delusional thought under the prosecution cross examination. I find the defences case extremely weak so far, sometimes I question if I’m watching a completely different trial

I’m watching the same one you are.

[hut-ho78]

@Ambitious_Kate

@Sdel

What does everyone think the prosecution’s was thinking about the defense bringing up two Olympic medalists to be character witnesses?

Yeah, consider this: All the nice people character witnessing for MB, olympic athletes, hay guy, friends, people who know him, have years long relationships with him, to talk about what he was experiencing, and they too, the past frew months. But no one speaking up for LK and RG. Not one person they know, supporting them. No horse people, no former trainers, no boarders, no friends, not even relatives, talking about their “fear” of MB, or their worry about this or that. Nobody. No farriers, no vets, no one who sold them a horse, no working students talking about how nice she was, how kind, not even to say how well she tended her horses. The only person who had anything nice to say about her was MHG, who tried to remain neutral, out of decency because she’s a decent human being. But even the prosecution witnesses made the defense/MB look good and LK and RG look like losers. No one came out of the woodwork to rally to their cause. Not even shelly nelly belly, her BFF on social media.

They are not on trial. This is Bilinkas blowing smoke to say MB good and LK/RG bad. True or not, it’s not relevant to whether or not MB is not guilty by insanity and self defense.

[Joanne]

I have never owned a dog which would be aggressive towards people, that I know of. They never had the opportunity to show that tendency.

Would a more aggressive dog be apt to attack if the owner is upset and yelling at someone, but no actual physical contact of the owner?

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

@Ambitious_Kate

@Sdel

What does everyone think the prosecution’s was thinking about the defense bringing up two Olympic medalists to be character witnesses?

Yeah, consider this: All the nice people character witnessing for MB, olympic athletes, hay guy, friends, people who know him, have years long relationships with him, to talk about what he was experiencing, and they too, the past frew months. But no one speaking up for LK and RG. Not one person they know, supporting them. No horse people, no former trainers, no boarders, no friends, not even relatives, talking about their “fear” of MB, or their worry about this or that. Nobody. No farriers, no vets, no one who sold them a horse, no working students talking about how nice she was, how kind, not even to say how well she tended her horses. The only person who had anything nice to say about her was MHG, who tried to remain neutral, out of decency because she’s a decent human being. But even the prosecution witnesses made the defense/MB look good and LK and RG look like losers. No one came out of the woodwork to rally to their cause. Not even shelly nelly belly, her BFF on social media.

They are not on trial. This is Bilinkas blowing smoke to say MB good and LK/RG bad. True or not, it’s not relevant to whether or not MB is not guilty by insanity and self defense.

It most certainly is relevant.

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

@Ambitious_Kate

@Sdel

What does everyone think the prosecution’s was thinking about the defense bringing up two Olympic medalists to be character witnesses?

Yeah, consider this: All the nice people character witnessing for MB, olympic athletes, hay guy, friends, people who know him, have years long relationships with him, to talk about what he was experiencing, and they too, the past frew months. But no one speaking up for LK and RG. Not one person they know, supporting them. No horse people, no former trainers, no boarders, no friends, not even relatives, talking about their “fear” of MB, or their worry about this or that. Nobody. No farriers, no vets, no one who sold them a horse, no working students talking about how nice she was, how kind, not even to say how well she tended her horses. The only person who had anything nice to say about her was MHG, who tried to remain neutral, out of decency because she’s a decent human being. But even the prosecution witnesses made the defense/MB look good and LK and RG look like losers. No one came out of the woodwork to rally to their cause. Not even shelly nelly belly, her BFF on social media.

They are not on trial. This is Bilinkas blowing smoke to say MB good and LK/RG bad. True or not, it’s not relevant to whether or not MB is not guilty by insanity and self defense.

You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.

[Pocket_Rocket]

My armchair is (or probably) even further away in Australia! I’m often late in catching up here and watching as much as I can of the trial. I thought the prosecutor looked a little gleeful and I could even anticipate that he would repeat that word if he got the chance. He managed to get it in, sadly. …