Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[RegentLion]

I think the prosecution trying to imply that everyone was “scared,” not just MB, so it couldn’t have been an idiosyncratic delusion.

We’ve had witnesses repeatedly shut down by prosecution for saying they were scared.

[EADoug]

It’s all about the pattern. THE PATTERN. Prosecution seems not to understand this.

Simring “I’m getting hungry your honour”
Taylor “Well that cinches it then! We’ll take lunch”

[Jealoushe]

@Sdel

So, maybe RC gave MB the gun to put in the safe in an attempt to soothe some of his delusions?

Why give anyone with delusions a gun!

[EADoug]

@RegentLion

I think the prosecution trying to imply that everyone was “scared,” not just MB, so it couldn’t have been an idiosyncratic delusion.

We’ve had witnesses repeatedly shut down by prosecution for saying they were scared.

Maybe he has regrets at this point?

[RegentLion]

That tracks, for me, anyway.

George Morris, friend of MB was just banned by SS for that.

[Angela_Freda]

Prosecutor seems to be chasing down idea that Simring has suggested that others, who weren’t delusional, didn’t fear Lol and RG… But the WS who testified yesterday, who was cut off, was going to, we believe, testify that RG threatened her.

I’m not sure why Schillhorn is going down this thread…

[supernatural]

The defense has had THE BEST witnesses.

[Davignport]

What a contrast in the character of the defense vs. the prosecution witnesses. This doctor is amazing.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@EADoug

The great distinction - Anyone can be ‘concerned’ - but it’s the preoccupation that leads to the delusion.

Oh. I feel for the Prosecution. I don’t think this is going the way he felt it would be going.

Un.flap.a.ble. - Overwhelming evidence.

This is a weird angle… hypothetical is sounding weird.

I lost all sympathy for the prosecution when he tried to discredit Simring’s diagnosis and report on the basis of one particular LK post. And then, later, the prosecution admits he only researched the details behind that one post.

LK and RG are his star witnesses. The prosecution should have done a LOT more homework on LKs postings. Maybe if he had… he would have decided to decline to prosecute this entire thing. Because it’s a freaking mess.

[Angela_Freda]

@EADoug

This is a weird angle… hypothetical is sounding weird

Why does prosecutor get to create hypothetical scenarios???

[cutter99]

@EADoug

@RegentLion

I think the prosecution trying to imply that everyone was “scared,” not just MB, so it couldn’t have been an idiosyncratic delusion.

We’ve had witnesses repeatedly shut down by prosecution for saying they were scared.

Maybe he has regrets at this point?

He should. The prosecutor picked the wrong witness to attempt to spar with! Love the doctor as a witness!

[Angela_Freda]

@Sticky_Situation

wonder if MB just assumed that LK’s report to safe sport related to sexual abuse since most/all of the publicized cases against male trainers have been sexual in nature.

Edit: since she had posted on social media about making the complaint

GMs ban had just happened on 8/5 I believe.
I believe MB knew GM well

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

The way MBs delusional disorder developed over time is very typical, according to Simring. These things don’t develop suddenly, all at once.

But Schellhorn wants a specific date! His minutia questions are tiring and getting no where. Is he seriously trying to impeach Simring? Good luck with that!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Sticky_Situation

I wonder if MB just assumed that LK’s report to safe sport related to sexual abuse since most/all of the publicized cases against male trainers have been sexual in nature.

Edit: since she had posted on social media about making the complaint

That’s what I am guessing.

[RegentLion]

@EADoug

@RegentLion

I think the prosecution trying to imply that everyone was “scared,” not just MB, so it couldn’t have been an idiosyncratic delusion.

We’ve had witnesses repeatedly shut down by prosecution for saying they were scared.

Maybe he has regrets at this point?

Maybe, but also Dr Simring states no one else on the farm was personally scared, but rather scared for MB.

Unfortunately, I think that people on the farm could have been scared by LK’s SM posts that we aren’t allowed to see… and I think if allowed to testify to that, many would have also said they were scared for themselves and MB. (I know I would have been, and I wouldn’t consider myself delusional.)

[RegentLion]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I lost all sympathy for the prosecution when he tried to discredit Simring’s diagnosis and report on the basis of one particular LK post. And then, later, the prosecution admits he only researched the details behind that one post.

LK and RG are his star witnesses. The prosecution should have done a LOT more homework on LKs postings. Maybe if he had… he would have decided to decline to prosecute this entire thing. Because it’s a freaking mess.

Prosecution clearly didn’t read 18,000 pages of SM posts.

[DownYonder]

@Ambitious_Kate

She probably has open warrants. She bounces around from FLA, to NC to NJ and avoids arrest or service, but most drug addicts have open warrants that can stay open for years and years and only get addressed when she gets stopped at a traffic stop, which she won’t because she doesn’t drive, probably because she’s lost her license, or, possibly because having one would track her down for these warrants, or when some other legal issue comes up, the open warrants/arrests get addressed, or, from filing taxes, she can be found. They probably found open warrants or arrests she never came to court for, and this can build up a lengthy list easily for drug addicts who skate on legal issues, which she is known to do.

Bingo. It is astonishing the way some people skirt warrants for years.

[Angela_Freda]

@Jealoushe

Why give anyone with delusions a gun!

To put away in a safe? Seems like the best place for it

[libgrrl]

And they had brought up the George Morris issue earlier too

[EADoug]

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@EADoug

@RegentLion

I think the prosecution trying to imply that everyone was “scared,” not just MB, so it couldn’t have been an idiosyncratic delusion.

We’ve had witnesses repeatedly shut down by prosecution for saying they were scared.
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Maybe he has regrets at this point?

Maybe, but also Dr Simring states no one else on the farm was personally scared, but rather scared for MB.

Unfortunately, I think that people on the farm could have been scared by LK’s SM posts that we aren’t allowed to see… and I think if allowed to testify to that, many would have also said they were scared for themselves and MB. (I know I would have been, and I wouldn’t consider myself delusional.)

I think they may well have been scared. But the distinction will still be that they weren’t scared for their own LIVES. They may have disliked LK/RG, they may have feared them yelling at them or making a scene, they may have feared them making their lives more stressful and unpleasant… but they didn’t think LK was going to KILL them.

Even if we had all their testimony, I do not get the impression that Simring would change his opinion. MB was interpreting LKs behaviour on a different scale the rest of them.