Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

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@BrownDerby

@SlamDunk

Depression is linked to concussions too
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Indeed. Consider all the ex NFL players who have committed suicide.

This is just gut-wrenching. It sounds like LK delivered the straw(s) that broke the camel’s back.

I don’t know about that. It sounded like the camel was pretty functional for a long, long time, despite a pretty uphill climb on a long and bumpy road.

Until somebody came and piled 50 bales of straw on it, piece by piece over the course of a span of time. And then that last straw from that same person on top of the previous 50 bales that were added was what broke it.

110%

A lot of beautiful, brilliant incredible people have suffered horrific childhood abuse, or have PTSD from war, or have had serious health issues like cancer or repeated concussions or whatever… and do struggle with long term depression, and anxiety, but lead incredible meaningful lives

Because they learn to manage their issues. And they have a good circle of support that works for them. And they have meaningful work and hobbies.

Sometimes, these people are extra brilliant because of their deep capacity for empathy.

I think that MB was one of those sorts of people. Sort of a human work of art. Imperfect - but very very unique and special. Fragile in some ways - yes. But a human being who was like a special work of art.

And these other two humans came along and decided to destroy that work of art. Almost like smashing a porcelain vase. Or taking a knife and slashing a beautiful painting.

It just makes me so sad. And frustrated with our legal system that did nothing to stop these two in the weeks and days leading up to this tragedy.

[MHM]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

MB became worried LK or RG might harm the children.

There apparently were some FB posts indicating LK and RG had fixated on the children.

That could be the final straw for a lot of people who were in much better mental shape than the description of MB at the time.

[Einhorn]

@SlamDunk

While a morally reprehensible statement, as were the actions of LK and RG in general, “FINISH THE BASTARD” isn’t a pressing, imminent action that would justify MB’s use of force. I don’t believe in isolation even saying I’ll kill you is at least in non stand your ground states. I know it certainly isn’t in Canada

Um, ok? I think we can all agree with you on that general statement outside of the facts of this case.

Edited because of clarity. for some reason bb posted this twice? Above deleted post is this one.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@DownYonder

The more I hear (read) about the testimony of various witnesses and understand about what happened to him, the more I realize that I am becoming an MB fangirl. He is an amazing person who overcame a difficult childhood to become a well-respected Olympic-level athlete and build a successful business and who also has a plethora of high-quality friends and business associates who consider him a good and honorable person.

It is beyond tragic that he was destroyed in a calculated campaign to do exactly that by a [insert adjectives of choice].

It is almost Shakespearean in scope

I’m feeling EXACTLY the same way.

If he is found not guilty after this… hopefully someone in the equestrian community could start some sort of fund or small organization for him. And interested parties could offer support for him from afar. Either kind notes, small donations to a cause that resonated with him… something… anything.

I just wish there was a way to offer this poor man some support.

[KarenK]

The judge

[DownYonder]

The biggest failure in this sad tale is the police department. How many times did he ask them for help? And they essentially blew him off…

And then failed him again by neglecting to test all three individuals at the crime scene for GSR.

It is just Incredible. I hope 48 hours makes their incompetence crystal clear.

[Jealoushe]

Thank you

[EADoug]

Cross. Buckle up to hear about every inconsistency.

And off the bat a weird error by Prosecution.

[SlamDunk]

I’ve just seen it used a lot on here as justification for shooting LK, which is why I brought it up

[Jealoushe]

Its strange them and the fire department all acted that way.

[EADoug]

Interesting. Is prosecution going to try to completely discredit this expert? Weird things to be challenging him on.

[ACMEeventing]

Right off the bat Shellhorn is punching above his weight. Like, do your homework

[cutter99]

@RegentLion

Until today, I don’t think any of us truly grasped what an insanity defense truly looked like, or what MB must have been going through.

Some of us have known the entire time. We have been ridiculed here, been called “MB fan girls”, been threatened by LK multiple times.

We knew!

[EADoug]

@ACMEeventing

Right off the bat Shellhorn is punching above his weight. Like, do your homework

Right? There’s no board for PsychOLOGY… that’s PsychIATRY, sir.

Challenging him leaving a PostDoc.

Challenging him not being a fellow…

[Sticky_Situation]

I didn’t say it excused the shooting, the verdict is for the jury to decide.

I was referring to LK’s behavior and how it goes far, far beyond the ordinary human tendency to sometimes look out for one’s self interest at the possible expense of others, to actual intentional desire to harm other people.

[EADoug]

Is he trying to paint him as a Psych for hire? Just to support a defense?

I’m really confused on the CV grilling.

[KarenK]

Anyone who would do business with these 2 evil beings, knowing their history, is opening themselves up for the same or possibly worse (if that’s at all possible) treatment…their choice.

[Einhorn]

They can’t do anything if no one is actually breaking the law, and they have little to no training on mental health and inter personal conflict.

Plus, in my experience most people have a weird aversion to dealing with people who are difficult. Perhaps to the FD and LEOs they just shrugged it off as whiny rich people being mean to each other. How many times do you hear men mocked for complaining or crying?

I don’t actually thick LEOs and FDs should deal with folks in crisis like this, but there isn’t anyone else to call…

[RegentLion]

Same set of questions as previous witness now.

[Salty]

You can count me in, too.

I rode in a clinic with Michael Barisone in the 90s. He was kind, funny, very professional, and gave good lessons. I still use the things I learned from him.

He also seemed on top the world. This whole thing is so heartbreaking.