Barisone Trial Starting Monday, 3/28

[MHM]

@CanteringCarrot

It’s possible that he thought or thinks he’s doing his best to manage a difficult child.

I’m just noticing how often different people keep using the word “child.”

She’s 41. Maybe a better term would be “offspring.” Or something similar.

[DownYonder]

@LexInVA

I can just see him [JK] saying to LK “Yes dear, this man will pay for what he’s done to you and we’ll move on to the next phase of your manifest destiny.”.

The thought crossed my mind that Daddy-O may be getting concerned about the amount of money he has gone through over the past many years, trying to help Daughter Dearest stay one step ahead of the law and also to try to prevent her from falling so deep into the drug culture that she commits serious criminal offenses like drug dealing, prostitution, and/or physical assault. He may have looked at seizing the farm as a nice way to recoup some of those funds, or at least to help stem the bleeding of $$$.

I also wonder if LK/RG have been manipulating him with lies about what a big, bad meanie MB is, so that he (JK) actually believed MB was the instigator and deserved to be tossed off the farm.

[hut-ho78]

@Knights_Mom

@hut-ho78

@RHdobes563

@hut-ho78

@Knights_Mom

@Ambitious_Kate

@hut-ho78

Which the parties had yet to sign.

Ooh, Hut-ho! In with the insider information! You are slipping up!

Ha!

Nonsense. Listen to the ear witness again. He called to tell her of progress on the agreement for her to move out. She hadn’t heard or agreed before MB showed up and shot her.

I seem to remember that the “agreement to vacate” (engineered by MB’s “equine” lawyer and LK’s father and attorney) was delivered/served to LK on August 6th. (I seem to remember that at the time this was said I thought that 24 hours didn’t give them much time to pack. But then, I remembered they weren’t packing furniture/large items/multiple knick-knacks, etc.)

MB’s “equine” attorney (sorry, I forget his name) said ‘yes, it wasn’t filed, and it was meant to “scare” LK/RG to leave.’ Somewhere/someone said that this was actually a kindness, as an official filing would have put a Blot on LK’s record, making it harder to find a place to rent. Also, somewhere/someone said that “non-filing” was common in these situations. I wish the “equine” lawyer had NOT used the word “scare”, explained that it was common to serve non-filed agreements, and how LK’s/anyone’s credit could be damaged by an official filing.

Just my remembering to the best of my ability.

The agreement to leave was not written and the terms were not given to Lauren because the ear witness had not told her anything about it before she was shot. He called to tell her the terms.

The eviction notice was delivered on the 6th but it had not been filed. Without being filed, it was not enforceable. Once filed, then the court would issue an eviction with a time line and the sheriff would enforce it. That would take either 3 days if he could get the emergency eviction or 30 days from the court issuing an eviction.

The atty, JK LK and it seems illegal recorder RG were all present in a meeting a day before the shooting. Specifications as to vacatur would have been discussed then as the lawyer who was present was identified in court, and testified to being their Landlord Tenant attorney.

No on can be expected to believe that the details of vacatur were not hashed out then during that meeting.

Papers were then posted AS IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AS A FIRST STEP TO A LANDLORD TENANT CASE.

With a 7 day notice served or a 3 day the Landlord could THEN, IN THE ABSENCE OF VACATUR file in court.

One could easily interpret your remarks as misleading or disingenuous as you appear to be pushing a moot narrative. These are tenants who were so unhappy that they engaged in a course of behavior unbecoming to civilized society yet they wouldn’t go.

Listen to the testimony. No papers were ever filed.

[Angela_Freda]

@hut-ho78

and he is a hero

No one said that.
And this kind of delusion that anyone has, feeds people like these two. Its like putting a bigger target on him, suggesting nonsense like that, imo.
Rhetoric really harms your argument.

[hut-ho78]

@Joanne

@hut-ho78 What is your theory on why LK gave MHG’s address as her own address to the NJ DA?

No idea. Don’t know if she did. Could have been a clerical error when they were inputting data.

[endlessclimb]

Which is normal.

[Angela_Freda]

I see this a bit differently.
I’m grateful the judge has been tough, because no one can suggest this trial wasn’t thorough, if MB isn’t found guilty.

[MHM]

@MorganSercu

He has remarried so I certainly hope their was a divorce!

Lol. I hope he’s very happy now. He’s probably extra happy if he has been following this trial at all.

[Joanne]

@hut-ho78

Could have been a clerical error when they were inputting data.

Clerks get blamed for errors a lot. No chance LK did it on purpose?

[MorganSercu]

@MHM

She’s 41. Maybe a better term would be “offspring.” Or something similar.

Spawn?

[chancellor2]

@hut-ho78

Being shot twice, scarred for life, and bashed on social media for 2.5 years and now we have vigilante social media screaming for consequences and he is a hero. Maybe he was. Now he is on trial for two counts of attempted murder plus gun charges.

Based on the trial, I would include MB as a victim too.

[Graymaresrule]

A clerical error is typing 56 for 65…

[Ambitious_Kate]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Hut-ho ! I think you might be onto something

Hah hah!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@DownYonder

And an additional way to continue the harassment of MHG, no doubt with intent to cause her more mental anguish. Let’s don’t forget the concerns MB and MHG had about them (LK/RG) stalking the children - I am sure that weighs on MHG’s mind to this day.

I have ZERO doubt that weighs on her mind.

I come at SafeSport discussions from the perspective of a parent. Not the perspective of a horse pro. I’ve spoken up in favor of SafeSport on these forums because I want children to have more protections. I think that’s incredibly important. I’ve been unsympathetic to claims from horse industry pros that it is being weaponized to somehow destroy businesses, etc.

But SafeSport clearly was weaponized against MHG. Within a few days of the SafeSport complaint, DCPP showed up to do a welfare check on MHGs child. MHG is a single mom. None of us know the details of her custody situation. But geeeze… something like that could CERTAINLY have caused serious issues for her if there is any stress or contention in ongoing custody arrangements related to her kids.

I find that appalling.

Anyway… it’s been one thing after another for poor MHG with respect to LK for YEARS. And the harassment has reached out and targeted MHGs kids, as that is an effective way to stress any mother. And I think that’s awful, and just feel horrible for her.

[hntrjmpr]

@CanteringCarrot

I actually tried, perhaps foolishly, to give LK the benefit of the doubt in some instances. I was actually open to being wrong about a few things and willing to be proven wrong and/or have my mind changed by this trial. However, my initial impression and instinct was correct, and it’s just as bad, if not worse, as I originally thought.

I couldn’t agree more! I have done a lot of research, read her replies on the forum, and have watched the trial up to this point and I really tried to give her the benefit of the doubt. She kept saying in her replies “just wait until the trial” and “everything will come out in the trial”… well it all has come out and it isn’t in her favor (just my opinion). I think she is a scary person and there is no way I would take my chances at being at the same barn she is at.

[MorganSercu]

A mix-up is transposing letters or numbers. An entirely different address is more likely to be a message. As for her cleverness or vindictiveness, well, we’ve seen what lengths she will go to.

Re-read the summation of her post to Girl_Joey in addition to what has been revealed on the stand. I bet it is very much the tip of the iceberg.

[Angela_Freda]

@DownYonder

The thought crossed my mind that Daddy-O may be getting concerned about the amount of money he has gone through over the past many years, trying to help Daughter Dearest stay one step ahead of the law and also to try to prevent her from falling so deep into the drug culture that she commits serious criminal offenses like drug dealing, prostitution, and/or physical assault. He may have looked at seizing the farm as a nice way to recoup some of those funds, or at least to help stem the bleeding of $$$.

He may also be thinking about who manages her after he’s gone

[KarenK]

Food for thought:
We’re taking the words of LK & RG as Bible regarding what happened during the shooting?..when no one’s hands were tested for gunshot residue other than MB?..WAKE UP!

[MorganSercu]

I am so embarrassed to see I used “their” instead of “there”. I know better! I will blame my phone trying to override me.

I may have to shame some dice in its presence.

[DownYonder]

[quote=“Virginia_Horse_Mom, post:8336, topic:770941”]
She popped up on the “People Attempting to Undermine SafeSport” thread in the HJ forum several months ago. And then tried to monopolize the discussion in a weird way. I didn’t really get it at the time, because I had t participated in the Barisone threads. I knew she had issues, and knew that MB had been banned … but I had no idea she had been reported for bullying, or the extent of who and what was involved.[/quote]

I also thought it was weird she popped up on that thread. I remember thinking Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot?
When she talked about the corruption at the upper levels of USEF and dressage, I actually thought she was referring to the Debbie McDonald/Bob McDonald issue (i.e., the fact that USEF had kept Debbie as Dressage Technical Advisor despite her husband being an ALLEDGED sexual predator). [Edited to add ALLEDGED.]

It was somewhere back on this thread that someone mentioned that it had to do with Allison Brock, but I do not know in what connotation. I now wonder if it was an attempt to smear Brock’s reputation to undermine her credibility as a character witness for MB.

The way that girl’s mind works is just - diabolical.