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[hut-ho78]

@SillyHorse

@hut-ho78

Which still doesn’t explain thousands of posts bashing a woman who was shot twice.

Oh, please. Being shot twice (which no one deserves) is not a free pass for previous (or future) terrible behavior. It might even be a consequence.

The old she deserved to be shot angle. Blame the victim. Does that make you feel safer?

[OntheFnce]

@eggbutt

Maybe. She has so much free time I would think completing that task would take mere minutes from her busy schedule.

Tell me, what did she have to do to prepare for the trial? All of her devices had been taken by the police, her story had been told corroborating what RG had said from the beginning. I doubt the prosecutor needed her for anything. I wonder if he ever considered revising the charges once he began reviewing the documents and available evidence. IM has eluded they have been closely involved with all the attorneys, so why would they need LK? For the life of me I can’t comprehend the defense attorneys providing any information to IM.

According to her USEF record, she hasn’t competed since October 2020.

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

The old she deserved to be shot angle. Blame the victim. Does that make you feel safer?

Safer from what??? How many thousand times does it take for you people to see no one has said anyone deserved to be shot. By the same token no one has deserved the harassment and threats from LK either!

[smoofox]

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

The old she deserved to be shot angle. Blame the victim. Does that make you feel safer?

Safer from what??? How many thousand times does it take for you people to see no one has said anyone deserved to be shot. By the same token no one has deserved the harassment and threats from LK either!

And THIS again. Two years worth of haranguing other posters that they are all blaming the victim, thought she deserved it, had it coming etc. etc. etc. That got tiresome a long time ago.

The same sad song, sung off key - over and over and over again. Does it make you feel safer?

As I said in my previous post, unless you are someone who is constantly praising LK and finding all sorts of reasons/explanations/conspiracies as to why she did or did not do something… then you are suspect. You think she deserved to be shot. You are an MB fangirl. You must be out to get her because you knew her in some way before the shooting.

No. No. No. And no.

@trubandloki

To go along with the not fan girl thing - it is possible to not like either side of a debate discussion. I know that is hard for some of you believe, but it can and does happen frequently.

Exactly right.

@hut-ho78

It’s possible to discuss what happened without bashing either party or each other.

And that is what MOST of us in these threads want to do - but need to wade through all the accusations of fangirls etc.

[RND]

@Angela_Freda

Note the “if”, and the lack of my ever implying or accusing anyone of lying all the time .
If is only fair to use wrt all parties involved since the truth is not yet or may never be fully known.
Capisce?

Oh I’m sorry; did you not see this?

@RND

@Angela_Freda

I did this, where?

My apologies if you have implied that LK doesn’t lie all the time - most here do think she lies all the time and have said so many, many times over the years.

Where I admitted I could have been wrong and apologized to you?

And then I added this:

@RND

I don’t think she lies all the time, and I think she attempts to tell the truth as best she can in her accounts of what happened the day of the shooting. I myself believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts. I think a whole lot of people use social media in that way.

Where I said that I don’t believe LK is honest all the time? For crying out loud it would be really nice if people would stop blaming me for their inability to follow what is going on here.

[Angela_Freda]

@RND

Where I said that I don’t believe LK is honest all the time? For crying out loud it would be really nice if people would stop blaming me for their inability to follow what is going on here

You need to be more careful, some posters here, ahem, would read this

@RND

Why would you believe that her social media posts are honest when you accuse her of lying all the time?

…and take is far less gracefully than I did.

[eggbutt]

@RND

Why would you believe that her social media posts are honest when you accuse her of lying all the time?

So you are now saying you believe she lies on SM. My question then is how to you chose what is a lie and what is a fact? Were the posts on FB indicating her fear and all the other veiled pleas for outside help lies? Or were they simply attention seeking inflammatory posts?

[eggbutt]

Your words -

“I don’t think she lies all the time, and I think she attempts to tell the truth as best she can in her accounts of what happened the day of the shooting. I myself believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts.”

So you don’t think she lies, then you say she does, then you flip again sayinf that she makes an effort to convey honesty and facts. WOW!

[RND]

@Angela_Freda

@RND

Where I said that I don’t believe LK is honest all the time? For crying out loud it would be really nice if people would stop blaming me for their inability to follow what is going on here

You need to be more careful, some posters here, ahem, would read this

@RND

Why would you believe that her social media posts are honest when you accuse her of lying all the time?

…and take is far less gracefully than I did.

I have no idea what you are talking about but I’m not scared of anyone on social media, so whoever wants to bring it is free to do so.

[eggbutt]

RND has lost the minute shred of credibility they had IMO. Hopefully, I will resist responding to their confusing posts and simply cruise on by in the future.

[RND]

@eggbutt

Your words -

“I don’t think she lies all the time, and I think she attempts to tell the truth as best she can in her accounts of what happened the day of the shooting. I myself believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts.”

So you don’t think she lies, then you say she does, then you flip again sayinf that she makes an effort to convey honesty and facts. WOW!

I guess I need to start writing at the kindergarten level. Here is what I said:

1. I don’t think she lies all the time. Hint: this means that I think she lies some of the time, but some of the time she does not lie.

2. I said that I think she attempts to tell the truth as she remembers it regarding the day she was shot. Hint: this means that I understand that what she says may not be accurate, but it is as far as she can remember what happened on a day that was probably more than a little stressful for her.

3. I said that I believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts. Hint: the phrase more than in that sentence indicates that I think she was trying to exaggerate and create drama and get attention instead of actually trying to be truthful and accurate.

In summary:

1. I don’t think LK always tells the truth
2. I don’t think it’s possible for someone who was traumatized like she was to be able to accurately remember every single fact from the day she was shot twice in the chest even though she might want to or think she is
3. I think she likes to create drama as a way to get attention on social media

None of this contradicts anything I have ever said in the past, no matter how much you all want to create a gotcha moment involving me. I am also not stating any of this as fact, which is indicated by the phrases “I think” or “I believe” before I state my opinions.

I hope this helps.

[MHM]

[eggbutt]

@RND

@eggbutt

Your words -

“I don’t think she lies all the time, and I think she attempts to tell the truth as best she can in her accounts of what happened the day of the shooting. I myself believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts.”

So you don’t think she lies, then you say she does, then you flip again sayinf that she makes an effort to convey honesty and facts. WOW!

I guess I need to start writing at the kindergarten level. Here is what I said:

1. I don’t think she lies all the time. Hint: this means that I think she lies some of the time, but some of the time she does not lie.

2. I said that I think she attempts to tell the truth as she remembers it regarding the day she was shot. Hint: this means that I understand that what she says may not be accurate, but it is as far as she can remember what happened on a day that was probably more than a little stressful for her.

3. I said that I believe her social media posts were most likely written to create drama and get attention more than they were an effort to convey honesty and facts. Hint: the phrase more than in that sentence indicates that I think she was trying to exaggerate and create drama and get attention instead of actually trying to be truthful and accurate.

In summary:

1. I don’t think LK always tells the truth
2. I don’t think it’s possible for someone who was traumatized like she was to be able to accurately remember every single fact from the day she was shot twice in the chest even though she might want to or think she is
3. I think she likes to create drama as a way to get attention on social media

None of this contradicts anything I have ever said in the past, no matter how much you all want to create a gotcha moment involving me. I am also not stating any of this as fact, which is indicated by the phrases “I think” or “I believe” before I state my opinions.

I hope this helps.

Again, how can you recognize when she is lying and when you think she is being honest? THAT’S what we’re confused about.

[Angela_Freda]

Being rude doesn’t help your cause.

[RND]

@eggbutt

Again, how can you recognize when she is lying and when you think she is being honest? THAT’S what we’re confused about.

I already told you I don’t know, and that I am speculating, just like everyone on these threads has been doing for two and a half years. That I am speculating should be easily recognizable by the fact that I use the phrases “I think” and “I believe” prior to stating my opinion. I actually stated this in the second to last sentence of my post that you quoted - are you responding to me without reading what I am writing? (I kind of hope the answer to that question is yes)

[RND]

@Angela_Freda

Being rude doesn’t help your cause.

Being rude doesn’t help, you’re right about that. I think it’s pretty rude for people to keep replying to my posts without reading for comprehension, and accusing me of saying things that I absolutely have not said. My posts are not written in some kind of hard to understand code and I’m not using any big, pretentious words.

I’m asking this honestly: is it really not clear when someone begins a sentence with the phrase “I believe” or “I think”, that the rest of that sentence is an opinion and not a fact? If the honest answer is yes, I will keep that in mind when I post from now on.

[SillyHorse]

@hut-ho78

@SillyHorse

@hut-ho78

Which still doesn’t explain thousands of posts bashing a woman who was shot twice.

Oh, please. Being shot twice (which no one deserves) is not a free pass for previous (or future) terrible behavior. It might even be a consequence.

The old she deserved to be shot angle. Blame the victim. Does that make you feel safer?

EXCUSE ME, CAN YOU NOT READ? I wrote “which no one deserves.”

And really, safer from what, exactly? You are a real piece of work.

[Danvers]

sorry, what SS training, I missed something… Thank you!

[SillyHorse]

@RND

I think it’s pretty rude for people to keep replying to my posts without reading for comprehension

It helps when people write for comprehension, don’t you think?

[eggbutt]

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