Barisone Trial This Month

[eggbutt]

Okay, thanks for the lesson.

[eggbutt]

He’s doing his job regardless whether you approve. The police bungled the entire situation.

[Angela_Freda]

@Angela_Freda

I guess that’s the question, if you had concerns, left, but then returned… clearly your concern didn’t include thinking he would harm you, or your horse, correct? The concern didn’t extend to thinking he was someone capable of premeditated murder in broad daylight?

And if this ^^^ is true, what changed that this happened?

If you (who left and came back) now think he is capable of premeditated murder, in broad daylight, with CPS present… Etc…
what do you attribute that change to?

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I agree with you that Bilinkas will attempt to blame the police for sloppy work.

Do you not find the police work sloppy?

I would think that anyone would find the police work to be sloppy here.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

I would think the attorneys know who the ear witness was based on LK’s phone records. I expect whoever it was will be dispatched in short order on the stand.

“Dispatched in short order”? I agree the testimony will probably be brief.

But I think the ear witness testimony will be absolutely crucial, however brief.

So many parallels to the Vertetis case- the ear witness testimony played a role there, too.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@Jealoushe

Her relationship with MB was no one’s business anymore than his relationship was with Vera. Just as how he chose to run his business and dismiss working students or direct trainers to specific horses was again, his business entirely.

It’s his business but you bring it into this thread out of no where? Way to keep it “ his business entirely”

Yes, in the same context that MH will be destroyed apparently because MB didn’t kick her to the curb. Other individuals continue to bring up their intense dislike of MH and that is clearly a factor in the events.

Who brought up their intense dislike of MH? IM said she would look bad when everything came out and her own words would hurt her but I don’t remember anyone but LK saying the didn’t like her and that was because she said MH was jealous. Early on posters were discussing that MH was known for being jealous and also MBs alleged drinking and temper and then others contradicted everything said so, to me, that’s just kind of useless gossip. So who said that?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

The comments posted here by LK and IM indicating they plan on destroying MH are also concerning to me. Regardless how any of us may feel about MH personally, there is no evidence she has broken any laws. So the vendetta will continue.

Her relationship with MB was no one’s business anymore than his relationship was with Vera. Just as how he chose to run his business and dismiss working students or direct trainers to specific horses was again, his business entirely. Every one had a right to leave and pursue other avenues for training.

There was a post recently indicating witness will be called to testify how horrible MB was. Most of those witnesses chose to remain with him or left and came back. Interesting to say the least. They came back for expert results, not his personality.

I may not like my surgeon or approve of his private life or how he treats his staff, but it is my choice to stay with the best expert for my needs. I chose him for results, not surgeon of the year. It’s the same with any other business or service in America.

Bolding mine (I have simply bolded your words to identify them).

I am not aware of anything LK or IM have posted here indicating that they “plan to destroy” MHG.

Can you post at least one of the statements you are referring to? TIA

[eggbutt]

Please notice that I did not give the typical response of “search for yourself”.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Jealoushe

You’re going on about the polices actions but didn’t they determine that those arguments can’t be brought into the trial?

The civil suit against the police was dismissed, but Bilinkas will certainly attempt to blame the police in the trial.

[hut-ho78]

That is not a latge community. LK and RG had been living there and down to Florida and back. The police were familiar with all parties. The police can’t turn people out who have established tenancy. The need legal documentation to evict to do so.

Per LK, she and RG had agreed on a date to move out plus she and MB were getting ready for a show. This all blew up very quickly. MB tried to order them off premises. He tried to order the police to turn them out but they had no legal grounds to do so.

The first officer on the scene saved lives. The second one secured the shooter. What he did worked. For an active shooter in the building, they secure everything first and first responders follow on.

They knew who the shooter was. Not only did LK tell them, MB told them ahead of time on the 911 call when he said it was war and he was taking things into his own hands. Maybe it was a fail because they didn’t arrest him then. I don’t know if they had grounds to arrest him for a threat. Maybe they didn’t think it was credible.

[Sdel]

@hut-ho78

The police can’t turn people out who have established tenancy. The need legal documentation to evict to do so.

They had more ability to diffuse the situation than just evicting LK. It’s called domestic disturbance arrests for both parties. It’s done all the time so that both parties can be put in front of a judge to sort out real issues or get a stern warning to cut the crap.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

Thanks so much for posting those quotes Eggbutt! IM is predicting that MHG will not have the career she might have had, and will not represent the US on an Olympic team, because of her role in the tragedy.

It’s a prediction, not a threat that he or LK will attempt to take any action to attempt to destroy her.

I have no interest in attempting to “destroy” MHG, either, but I think IMs prediction is probably correct.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no interest in attempting to “destroy” MHG, either, but I think IMs prediction is probably correct.

Really? I’m sure MHG will be relieved she has nothing to fear from whoever you are.

By the way, she seems to be doing quite well for herself in and out of the ring with a World Class Trainer.

[Inigo-montoya]

Yes……the police officer was unconcerned about the little 28 pound dog which Barisone played with and gave a belly rub every day.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have no interest in attempting to “destroy” MHG, either, but I think IMs prediction is probably correct.

Really? I’m sure MHG will be relieved she has nothing to fear from whoever you are.

By the way, she seems to be doing quite well for herself in and out of the ring with a World Class Trainer.

Please admit flat out that you have zero evidence that IM or LK have posted anything even suggesting that they plan to “destroy” MHG.

[eggbutt]

@Inigo-montoya

Yes……the police officer was unconcerned about the little 28 pound dog which Barisone played with and gave a belly rub every day.

That 28 pound dog sure did a number on MB’s arms.

[Inigo-montoya]

Eggbutt has a bad habit of “adjusting” previous quotes to fit her narrative. Thanks for straightening her out ( yes, I know that’s not really possible).
And here’s some more information on which you can quote me, QFP me, whatever.
There is no human being that MB now hates on the planet more than MHG. Hates with a passion!

[eggbutt]

Golly gee, let me advise you to go find it yourself. Or as I have been told so many times on these threads “I don’t have to find anything for you” or words to that effect. Honestly, with all the editing and deleting that happened in several threads, it isn’t worth my time to look for you and I don’t capture screen shots. Sorry.

[Inigo-montoya]

And it’s a damn good thing she did.

[eggbutt]

But wait, the cop was unconcerned? Okay. Why was the friendly little dog rushed inside? Didn’t that dog bite someone else just the day before. Of course I don’t know if Heymer was aware of that fact.