Barisone Trial This Month

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@cutter99

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

Well, in light of last night’s postings…

@Sdel

Is that the FB post you were referring to?

Shelley starts with “even if … “. She could be saying “even if … I heard the recordings”, which would suggest that she had not heard the recordings.

She could be saying she heard the recordings. It’s very inarticulate and muddled, as posts on FB often are.

I am upgrading from my 5 lb salt block to: that’s a meaningless post; impossible to know whether she is trying to say she did or didn’t hear the recordings.

The police will have taken all the digital evidence- the hard drive on the audio recorder, the cell phones and laptops (seems likely that LK may have audio or video taken on her cell phone), and gotten access to the video recordings from the house on the cloud (if any).

How do you imagine this Shelley person would have gotten access to any recordings of any type?

Nice attempt to twist what Shelley said, but most of us are smart enough to read the entire quote!

A+ for effort on your part though!

As a smart person, what would be your interpretation of the sentence:

“Even if I did not know all the evidence and hadn’t heard the recordings, I would never …”

Explain that, then note that that’s not what she wrote.

As a smart person, please explain how Shelley from NC would have had access to crucial electronic evidence in an attempted murder case.

As a smart person, please reread my post and note that I said that the post was an inarticulate mess such that it was not at all clear what she was intending to say.

[LiberalSnowflake]

Shelley (Nelly) is Lauren’s (Gertie) BFF in the whoooooole world. #loveyoumore

[smoofox]

@La-LaPopRider

(Raises hand) …. I’ve got a “theory!” Perhaps…… perhaps…… perhaps……. there is something you do not know. Something huge. Something every child is taught to do if there is ever an emergency. Perhaps. Perhaps…… one very, extremely, indisputably credible “ear witness” outweighs or simply corroborates testimony from another very credible (different type) ear witness. Perhaps……. your tragically biased brain is blocking you from forming just one logical thought? Perhaps……apply Occam’s Razor here.

Perhaps… in all sincerity, posting like this is not a great idea. Perhaps… flailing about this close to the actual trial is ill-advised - I am sure that most lawyers who cared for their clients would suggest that. Perhaps… perhaps… one could just let other posters’ theories stand out there on their own (on a small section of a small forum that is not Out There and NOT widely read by hundreds of thousands every day) - to be disproved during the trial if they are erroneous and ridiculous.

Just a thought.

Edited to add another NOT to make my meaning/intent clearer. As in - this forum is NOT widely read… let alone one sub-forum on said forum. Thus it does not have a huge input on the opinions of John Q. Public etc. etc.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

As a smart person, what would be your interpretation of the sentence:

“Even if I did not know all the evidence and hadn’t heard the recordings, I would never …”

Explain that, then note that that’s not what she wrote.

As a smart person, please explain how Shelley from NC would have had access to crucial electronic evidence in an attempted murder case.

As a smart person, please reread my post and note that I said that the post was an inarticulate mess such that it was not at all clear what she was intending to say.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@AnastasiaBeaverhousen

Question
Isn’t it a risk for the prosecution to introduce video/audio evidence that was illegally obtained?
Is such evidence even admissible?

Do the victims run the risk of being charged, if it is proved that the video/audio was illegal?
TIA

This has been discussed ad nauseum in previous threads.

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

My impression of you is based on what you have written, not what others have written about you.

Does this apply to your impressions of all users of a horse forum?

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt it seems there is an old history here between your family and LK’s. Does this go back to the girl’s high school years?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

My impression of you is based on what you have written, not what others have written about you.

Does this apply to your impressions of all users of a horse forum?

Of course.

[eggbutt]

SMH

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

@eggbutt it seems there is an old history here between your family and LK’s. Does this go back to the girl’s high school years?

Huh?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

@La-LaPopRider

(Raises hand) …. I’ve got a “theory!” Perhaps…… perhaps…… perhaps……. there is something you do not know. Something huge. Something every child is taught to do if there is ever an emergency. Perhaps. Perhaps…… one very, extremely, indisputably credible “ear witness” outweighs or simply corroborates testimony from another very credible (different type) ear witness. Perhaps……. your tragically biased brain is blocking you from forming just one logical thought? Perhaps……apply Occam’s Razor here.

Perhaps… in all sincerity, posting like this is not a great idea. Perhaps… flailing about this close to the actual trial is ill-advised - I am sure that most lawyers who cared for their clients would suggest that. Perhaps… perhaps… one could just let other posters’ theories stand out there on their own (on a small section of a small forum that is not Out There and widely read by hundreds of thousands every day) - to be disproved during the trial if they are erroneous and ridiculous.

Just a thought.

Perhaps her statements here (read by hundreds of thousands every day? Really?) will be verified in the court proceedings.

Just a thought.

[hut-ho78]

@eggbutt

@hut-ho78

@eggbutt it seems there is an old history here between your family and LK’s. Does this go back to the girl’s high school years?

Huh?

There was a mom from North Carolina who posted a long time ago that her beef with LK went back to a spat the girls had in high school and then LK was rude to her. I was wondering if either you had a similar experience or it was you.

[Angela_Freda]

[quote=“Angela_Freda, post:1758, topic:770123”]

@Angela_Freda

@La-LaPopRider

On the off chance you do accidentally “get it,” make a “note to self” to send Heymer and RG a huge “thank you,” note for saving god knows how many lives that day. Or, you could keep it less grandiose & only thank them for saving 3 lives. Bc, that is exactly & precisely what they certainly did do.

[/quote]

So, the third life saved, after LK and RG was… Whom?
[/quote]

MB?

Hmmm… That’s an interesting thought: MBs life was saved by the cop.

How so?

@CurrentlyHorseless
I’m very interested in this idea of yours, that the cop (Heymer, first responding Officer mentioned in the quote below) saved a third life, and that the third life saved is MB’s… can you elaborate?

@La-LaPopRider

On the off chance you do accidentally “get it,” make a “note to self” to send Heymer and RG a huge “thank you,” note for saving god knows how many lives that day. Or, you could keep it less grandiose & only thank them for saving 3 lives. Bc, that is exactly & precisely what they certainly did do.

[smoofox]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

@La-LaPopRider

(Raises hand) …. I’ve got a “theory!” Perhaps…… perhaps…… perhaps……. there is something you do not know. Something huge. Something every child is taught to do if there is ever an emergency. Perhaps. Perhaps…… one very, extremely, indisputably credible “ear witness” outweighs or simply corroborates testimony from another very credible (different type) ear witness. Perhaps……. your tragically biased brain is blocking you from forming just one logical thought? Perhaps……apply Occam’s Razor here.

Perhaps… in all sincerity, posting like this is not a great idea. Perhaps… flailing about this close to the actual trial is ill-advised - I am sure that most lawyers who cared for their clients would suggest that. Perhaps… perhaps… one could just let other posters’ theories stand out there on their own (on a small section of a small forum that is not Out There and widely read by hundreds of thousands every day) - to be disproved during the trial if they are erroneous and ridiculous.

Just a thought.

Perhaps her statements here (read by hundreds of thousands every day? Really?) will be verified in the court proceedings.

Just a thought.

Please read my post again. I said this was a small section of a small forum that is NOT Out There and read by hundreds of thousands every day. NOT. Perhaps… I should go back and add another NOT to be clearer.

And as I also said - have things verified in the court proceedings as opposed to muddying the water again now.

ETA: Added another NOT to the original post.

[eggbutt]

Wasn’t me.

[eggbutt]

Was the review of witness questionnaires supposed to be done this weekend?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

@CurrentlyHorseless

@smoofox

@La-LaPopRider

(Raises hand) …. I’ve got a “theory!” Perhaps…… perhaps…… perhaps……. there is something you do not know. Something huge. Something every child is taught to do if there is ever an emergency. Perhaps. Perhaps…… one very, extremely, indisputably credible “ear witness” outweighs or simply corroborates testimony from another very credible (different type) ear witness. Perhaps……. your tragically biased brain is blocking you from forming just one logical thought? Perhaps……apply Occam’s Razor here.

Perhaps… in all sincerity, posting like this is not a great idea. Perhaps… flailing about this close to the actual trial is ill-advised - I am sure that most lawyers who cared for their clients would suggest that. Perhaps… perhaps… one could just let other posters’ theories stand out there on their own (on a small section of a small forum that is not Out There and widely read by hundreds of thousands every day) - to be disproved during the trial if they are erroneous and ridiculous.

Just a thought.

Perhaps her statements here (read by hundreds of thousands every day? Really?) will be verified in the court proceedings.

Just a thought.

Please read my post again. I said this was a small section of a small forum that is NOT Out There and read by hundreds of thousands every day. NOT. Perhaps… I should go back and add another NOT to be clearer.

And as I also said - have things verified in the court proceedings as opposed to muddying the water again now.

ETA: Added another NOT to the original post.

Thanks for adding the additional not to clarify the original post.

If you’re confident her lawyers have given her advice on her posting, and you (not her lawyer) have repeatedly advised her not to post, what is the point of continuing to harp on the issue? Really, what is the point?

[CurrentlyHorseless]

[quote=“Angela_Freda, post:1772, topic:770123, full:true”]

@Angela_Freda

@Angela_Freda

@La-LaPopRider

On the off chance you do accidentally “get it,” make a “note to self” to send Heymer and RG a huge “thank you,” note for saving god knows how many lives that day. Or, you could keep it less grandiose & only thank them for saving 3 lives. Bc, that is exactly & precisely what they certainly did do.

[/quote]

So, the third life saved, after LK and RG was… Whom?
[/quote]

MB?

Hmmm… That’s an interesting thought: MBs life was saved by the cop.

How so?

@CurrentlyHorseless
I’m very interested in this idea of yours, that the cop (Heymer, first responding Officer mentioned in the quote below) saved a third life, and that the third life saved is MB’s… can you elaborate?

@La-LaPopRider

On the off chance you do accidentally “get it,” make a “note to self” to send Heymer and RG a huge “thank you,” note for saving god knows how many lives that day. Or, you could keep it less grandiose & only thank them for saving 3 lives. Bc, that is exactly & precisely what they certainly did do.

@Angela_Freda

I declined to respond to your question on this the first time you asked, in order to avoid an inane loop of posts. If I decline to respond to a question of yours, I’d appreciate your refraining from tagging me and needling me for a response.

Lots and lots of pointless and repetitious exchanges could be avoided if more people used the perfectly legitimate option of not responding.

[smoofox]

Where did I say I knew what LK’s lawyers advised her? I responded to the… intensity… of that new post - with a concern and some advice. How odd that you think I am “harping” on an issue with a few scattered posts - after endless pages of posters repeatedly arguing about gun types or who is who and who knows what etc. etc. etc. - often creating those “infinity windows” of replies/posts.

What was the point of all that - over and over and over again? Just using your criteria here…

I am having a sense of deja vu - YankeeDuchess would often decide that there was no point to what others were posting… and was a firm believer of Do As I Say And Not As I Do…

[Angela_Freda]

So you have an opinion you can’t support.
Got it.