Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Fiesta01]

@smoofox

Any forum members out there of Canadian and Austrian/Norwegian descent? My grandfather on my dad’s side was a kind of rumrunner during Prohibition…

Ashamed to say that I know of no illegal activities amongst my English/Scots/Norwegian/Swiss roots. You guys make it sound so exciting.

No, wait. My paternal grandfather was financial advisor to Upton Sinclair when he ran for Governor of CA. He was a devoted Socialist, so maybe some people on the right might consider him a crook. May I join your club now? Please?

[Fiesta01]

@CurrentlyHorseless

How can JK “insist” that MB offer a specific deal of MB doesn’t agree to it?

Still 75 posts behind, but will venture a guess on this one. Considering the family appears to be suit-happy, maybe he told MB he would sue him (no idea for what) if he didn’t let her stay there.

For non-lawyer connected people, that would be very scary. Most people don’t have abundant extra cash around to be able to afford to defend themselves.

[MorganSercu]

I also tried her hyphenated version with her XH’s name as well as his surname alone.

shrugs

[LiberalSnowflake]

@McGurk

I sincerely hope I will not give offense by describing challah as Jewish Brioche.

The key difference between brioche and challah is that challah is traditionally braided. They are both rich, delicious, egg breads that are wonderful for french toast. (If we can say french toast. Or should we use the British term, Eggy Bread? Or would that be weird - Eggy Bread made with egg bread?)

Sorry, I’m getting punchy.

ETA: @eggbutt and @BrendaJane beat me to it.

If you’re going in on eggy bread, try eggy hot cross buns - it’s a whole new world. Delish.

[dotneko]

@Knights_Mom

@dotneko

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@ekat

Could I get a good gyro in Pittsfield? Maybe some spanakopita?

Gyro is not REAL Greek food. At least according to the people I know.

But spanakopita? Oh yeah. I can tell you who’s family makes the BEST spanakopita in all of Western Mass, and a few states to the north

Coincidentally, I have some of my home made spanikopita defrosting in the fridge.
My husbands aunt used to make her own phyllo! She would have sheets of it drying on clotheslines in her house. Life is way too short to make your own phyllo.
The best Greek food in MA comes from Lowell and Lawrence btw. Italian from Worcester. The North End is just a poser in the Italian food contest.
There is no such thing as locaniko in the supernarkets in FL. How is that possible? EVERY DeMoulas has it in New England.
I was not offended by the references.
Back to lurking.

Tarpon Springs? Isn’t that like little Greece?

No!! Rarely it shows up on the menus. I’ve tried the Greek markets there. Did find a decent Mavrodaphne though.
We even considered ordering a case from one if the restaurant supply places, but $15 a package was a bridge too far. I have brought it to FL in carry on (frozen bread dough makes super ice packs and is TSA friendly). I’m judging in VT in June, so I may have to do that again.

[Syrynx]

I’m so far behind!

[trubandloki]

@Fiesta01

I hate being 200 posts behind. You beat me to it.

I feel like I am always 200 posts behind on these threads.
Get up to pee, come back, 200 posts behind.

It was worth repeating so I am glad you said it again!

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

And that the whole thing somehow involved the horse continuing to live at the same place it always had for the rest of his life… which sure sounded like indefinite free board for this horse…

LK and clan say that, but I would guess the conversation went more like the following after the agreed upon price was negotiated - “We love “horse” and hope to keep him here at SGF for a good long time, so glad someone in house bought him.” and to LK that means free board forever.

Disclaimer, I have just as many facts behind my theory as anything LK says.

@MHM

And didn’t somebody say at one point that she had actually competed that horse successfully since then? Which cast doubt on the whole story about the horse being a mercy purchase, or whatever term would fit?

This!

[DownYonder]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Why/how did JK get involved in the spring of 2019, and manage to get MB to provide free housing to LK and RG for the spring abs summer, at a time when the whole NJ facility was experiencing a housing crunch because of the burst pipe?

Why was their no written agreement of any kind covering this?

I’ve yet to hear a coherent explanation of this part of the story.

I have heard CH, hut-ho and a few others blame it on MB using poor business practices and not documenting things via contracts.

I tend to think it was because MB needed her business but I am not clear on how he thought she was going to cover the expenses for upkeep of their horses. I know someone mentioned $2500 per horse but I’m not sure if she was actually paying him that, or if that amount was supposed to be worked off by RG. I also am not clear on whether she originally had only two horses but ended up with four horses there (and a fifth was in import quarantine, correct?).

As to why there was not a written agreement, that was certainly a misstep on MB’s part, but I can’t help but wonder why “retired lawyer” Daddy-O didn’t insist on a contract. One would think since he was controlling the purse strings and “overseeing” where Daughter lived, he would have made sure all the details were agreed to in writing. So big misstep on his part, too.

(And apologies if this has already been explained. I am hundreds of postings behind…).

[Impractical_Horsewoman]

My father is Greek and while I admit I’m not a massive fan of Greek food, I will say that this video is 100% accurate:

@constantlygus

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder

I tend to think it was because MB needed her business

I don’t think that MB was desperate enough for business that he wanted people around that were working off board, but barely working it off, or paying what seems to be below the going rate.
How does that help his business.

[DownYonder]

@lazaret

…it was just RG did work and SGF agrees they owe him money

I’ve been meaning to ask this. Who with SGF agreed they owed RG money? Was it a verbal conversation, by email, by text? And did that party tell RG directly, or LK, or some intermediary such as JK? Or did they have their attorney pass on that information?

And who made that announcement to the world (that SGF agreed they owed RG money)? Was it RG or LK? Was it JK? Another attorney? One of the SGF parties? And did the other SGF partner agree to it?

And was there a written agreement they owed RG? Who drew it up? Was is signed by all partners in SGF, as well as RG?

So many questions - and I’m only on my first cup of coffee!

[trubandloki]

@DownYonder, I believe the only person to make this claim is IM.

[SillyHorse]

I don’t know where you live in Ohio, but it can’t be anywhere near where I live. I live in an area with many excellent restaurants, some of which have been in national top-ranked lists. PM me, come visit, and I’ll take you for a terrific meal.

ETA Now I see you’re in Columbus. That was my hunch. Its a big state.

[Bogey2]

Well it’s time for me to disembark…have a great rest of your trip! LOL

[lazaret]

@DownYonder

I can’t help but wonder why “retired lawyer” Daddy-O didn’t insist on a contract.

Could it be because Daddy Lawyer knew he didn’t intend to fulfill the terms of the agreement?

[enjoytheride]

@Knights_Mom

Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Steubenville, Parma, Columbus, Warren, Youngstown, Akron all have sizeable Greek populations according to the Wkipedia.

That’s where I’d look for authentic Greek food.

Youngstown was also known as Crimetown USA and Little Chicago due to the huge presence and activity of the Mob

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

Ding ding ding.

I think you are onto something.

But… beware the outraged sock puppets who will no doubt start yammering at you for daring to ask such a rhetorical question.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Impractical_Horsewoman

My father is Greek and while I admit I’m not a massive fan of Greek food, I will say that this video is 100% accurate:

OMG!

100% accurate. Makes me miss my Yaiya. Not the koulourakia though… they weren’t my favorite.

But the homemade Tsoureki bread at Easter?
It was sooooo good. I miss that.

[Mersidoats]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@roseymare

It may be semantics but maybe it was actually the horse that he wanted to keep in the barn. The one he had sold her. Or did I misunderstand about the horse having been in the barn before LK bought it.

That whole thing was weird too. The horse did belong to MB, and was sold to LK. A schoolmaster. But… she said it had soundness/maintenance issues. And that the whole thing somehow involved the horse continuing to live at the same place it always had for the rest of his life… which sure sounded like indefinite free board for this horse…

Very odd. MB had sold plenty of horses prior to 2019. He would know as well as anyone why offering free lifetime board for a sales horse makes no common sense.

Why wouldn’t he just surrender it to a rescue as unridable and recoup half the value from insurance? And not be on the hook for board for the rest of the horse’s life.

[DownYonder]

RE: SGF agreed they owned RG money…

@trubandloki

@DownYonder, I believe the only person to make this claim is IM.

Ah, interesting. So IM claimed it was so and certain other parties on this thread believe it also.

I seem to vaguely recall that that pronouncement first surfaced sometime right after the shooting. And wasn’t it also claimed around the same time that the SGF “owners” had told LK she was welcome to stay on the property (after she had been discharged from the hospital)?

If in fact those conversations did take place, could it be that the owners of the property were not aware at the time of the whole story? Aren’t the owners of the property a somewhat elderly couple that do not live there or involve themselves in the management of the property or of MB’s equine business? If so, I can totally see how if LK/RG (or JK?) passed on the info to them that MB had said that LK/RG could live there and that MB would pay RG for renovation work, and all they really knew at the time was that MB had shot LK, I can totally see how they would assume they were being told “the truth.” And I can imagine their total shock at learning that there was much, much more to the story than what they had first been told.