Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[RND]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Yup. As I mentioned earlier, I have a family who works for a business, that has been owned and operated by a single family for 3 generations, and the family is of an ethnicity I will not mention, because mentioning that particular fact the first time, apparently set off a STORM of outrage by other posters. The business has multiple operations in the entire mid Atlantic region, including a construction division (mostly road construction and road repair), and a real estate division (mostly commercial and industrial real estate). There is also a heavy equipment rental and sales division, along with a massive heavy equipment repair operation. It does a lot of legitimate business, and is well known, and well respected (according to my family member who works for them). The original company, founded three generations ago? It was a waste management company. And that grew into a trucking company. That eventually grew into a bigger company with multiple lines of business.

There is no public talk of the company being ‘connected.’ There is no public talk of the family that owns the business being ‘connected.’ However… it is well known that MANY of the blue collar employees working in the construction and heavy equipment divisional have records, and go in and out of prison. For various things. Some pretty darn serious. This has been the way it is for decades (my family member has worked for this company for almost 30 years now). My family member has joked several times over the years that “so and so is back at work after spending time in the clink” - because certain guys are always welcome back after they serve their time. Because they are ‘friends of the family.’

Is what it is. The current owners of the company are very ‘white collar’ business owners. They are on the board of a few key civics institutions in the Philadelphia area, have a home in the Main Line area, and belong to multiple country clubs. By all accounts, they are pillars of the community.

I’m pretty sure I know exactly what family you’re talking about.

[Djones]

I’ve never eaten good food in Ohio, either. Nor have I ever eaten a cream horn.

Am I still wrong? I wonder if I’ll be reported to the AUTHORITEES.

[MHM]

@LexInVA

In the Civil trial, there will be a lot more to look at, in regards to the evidence and some of it was referenced in the Criminal trial.

Yes, my question was more about whether the information will be available to the average member of the public who is not involved or sitting in the courtroom. I’m guessing there would not be a live stream of a civil trial.

[LexInVA]

@MHM

@LexInVA

In the Civil trial, there will be a lot more to look at, in regards to the evidence and some of it was referenced in the Criminal trial.

Yes, my question was more about whether the information will be available to the average member of the public who is not involved or sitting in the courtroom. I’m guessing there would not be a live stream of a civil trial.

The case has available documentation through the digital record systems, but I don’t think we’ll be lucky enough to get a blow-by-blow recap or a live stream, as Civil cases can take a long time, but L&C might surprise us and do something.

[Salty]

I mean thank you

[Tarlo_Farm]

@BrownDerby

Their Florida farrier was identified when RG was on the stand. Ernie something.

I believe the one who told them he wouldn’t do their horses any more was ARNIE something.

[McGurk]

Yes. The wife and kids were physically unharmed.

It was beyond awful. I was in junior high. No one knew what to do or say to the kid in our class.

[BrownDerby]

Correct! My bad. Once again I am grateful for not being a juror. Arnie Gervasio.

ETA correct name.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@Djones

I’ve never eaten good food in Ohio, either. Nor have I ever eaten a cream horn.

Am I still wrong? I wonder if I’ll be reported to the AUTHORITEES.

You will be reported to a federal prosecutor, most likely. That’s how things are going on this thread now. You can’t discuss ANYTHING without people getting outraged, and a few key sock puppets jumping in and trying to use the outrage to spin new and creative counter attacks.

[Tarlo_Farm]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom, another one of my Italian uncles (well, really a second cousin I think) worked an executive position for Waste Management most of his life.

Fine, upstanding man and job. My dad did not read him the riot act as Dad did when he found out his younger brother ran numbers for a while. Yikes - I bet the neighbors heard that exchange!

And now that ya’ll have described those cream cones, a local Danish bakery made puff pastry cones with a lovely, light, whipped sweet cream/frosting filling. I’d forgotten about them until just now.

[MHM]

@McGurk

Yes. The wife and kids were physically unharmed.

It was beyond awful. I was in junior high. No one knew what to do or say to the kid in our class.

I’m sure. Talk about an unimaginable situation.

[trubandloki]

I have never heard of a cream cone.
Darn, I am learning a lot about so many topics on these threads.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@iberianfan

Wow, this thread has gone some wild directions. The one thing I would like to point out is the condition of the house as was shown in pictures during the trial. It was still a mess and it didn’t look to me like anything near $50k worth of work had been done. And, he testified to the contrary.

Multiple times, LK said they couldn’t leave because they were owed $50k. And, they had never been asked to leave…all of which looks to be completely false. So, why, do some folks thinks RG is owed money???

Good question. Totally agree. That stuck out to me as well.

[eggbutt]

[Djones]

@eggbutt, I feel attacked.

[Graymaresrule]

I went to school with Joe Adonis’s children. He was deported to Italy…

[eggbutt]

@Djones

@eggbutt, I feel attacked.

Why??

Nevermind, I understand now! You might have nightmares of being attacked by cream horns now that I posted a photo!

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@RND

I’m pretty sure I know exactly what family you’re talking about.

Good for you

[BrownDerby]

@DownYonder

Or perhaps she wanted to buy it but Daddy-O wasn’t going to give her the funds. So she and MB had a discussion that she could “make payments” but the horse stayed in his barn. Perhaps he was skeptical that she would actually pay for the horse and he wanted to use it for lessons for other students to help recoup some of the expenses for its upkeep (not an uncommon scenario).

And perhaps she decided that since she basically had no way of paying for it, that RG could “work it off.” Perhaps she even suggested that to MB. And perhaps she led RG to believe that MB was going to pay him for renovation work. Perhaps she led JK to believe she had a suitable arrangement with MB regarding accommodations, plus care/training, etc. for her horses. I can totally see how she might have not only misconstrued a conversation with MB about arrangements, but also totally see that she may have either consciously or subconsciously misled RG and/or JK about the situation. (I am not sure she is above lying to even her own people if it suited her purposes.)

And yes, I am speculating and we may never know the full details of that strange arrangement unless it comes out in the civil trial.

As usual this whole (possible) situation is so crazy. She bought two horses through agent Rosanna Williams (who self-identified as LK’s friend in the original COTH report). The agent was based in far west USA and sold via FB, Ultimate Equine. The horses had shown in Europe and were $35-45K, shipping included, so probably not high caliber horses. One was in NY at the time of the shooting, according to LK. So someone was paying for these transactions. Why would LK be yammering for money and yet go on shopping sprees?

RW has closed her FB and now sells via an App. It is interesting is that she identified as a friend but was not called as a witness, so it is doubtful they ever met.

[Djones]

Sobbing quietly…