Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[eggbutt]

@hut-ho78

That is my point. The judge allowed character witnesses in the trial portion when a character witness would testify to things like truthfulness. If the defendant is not testifying then what was the point?

Tsk, tsk, tsk, yes OBTUSE is the word of the day. These witnesses weren’t “character witnesses” per se but highly unimpeachable people from Michael’s past who testified about the dramatic change they saw come over him so quickly and that they had never, ever seen him so distraught, depressed, and terrified as he was the days/weeks before the shooting. I won’t be surprised if you attempt to question their testimony of their observations.

[ohnoO]

It’s my understanding that MHG was the one who submitted 700+ pages of “evidence” to SS about LK. I would think she wouldn’t have done so without MB’s blessing, but his state of mind in early August was no kind of a reasonable state at all. He may have signed the complaint, but I can’t imagine he did much work for it.

I also thought I knew that LK called (several different people at) SS trying to lodge a complaint against MB for verbal abuse, bullying, etc. and one SS person eventually asked her if there were children living on the farm and……there it was, “children”! The magic word! “Why yes there are”—and the rest is history.

[eggbutt]

@smoofox

And there was no bombshell.

There wasn’t even a sparkler or Christmas popper! It was all about intimidation - the Kanarek game plan: bully, threaten, and intimidate. “All will be revealed”! Yep, it sure will!!! Maybe we will finally hear why LK isn’t welcome in the family home - that bastion of love and forgiveness. (Yes, intended snark.)

[eggbutt]

@ohnoO

It’s my understanding that MHG was the one who submitted 700+ pages of “evidence” to SS about LK. I would think she wouldn’t have done so without MB’s blessing,

She clearly used the word “WE” when testifying about sending 720 pages to SS via UPS (and she offered the receipt as I recall).

[ekat]

In the case of Boyd Martin and Phillip Dutton, they were also there to specifically refute LK saying that MB abused the horses or didn’t provide adequate care or words to that effect.

Edit to add: that wasn’t as much about MB’s truthfulness as much as it was the lengths LK was willing to go to blast him on SM leading up to the shooting. She’d already testified to her posts about Michael’s cruelty or neglect or whatever words she used.

[Sdel]

@ekat

In the case of Boyd Martin and Phillip Dutton, they were also there to specifically refute LK saying that MB abused the horses or didn’t provide adequate care or words to that effect.

Every lie LK had made about MB was addressed by a witness. The prosecution was objected to, and sustained, when they tried to question Ali Brock about USEF misconduct. Another reason why they might want to go ahead and deal with LK now…

[downen]

I think Elon dated Amber, too.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@smoofox

@CurrentlyHorseless

And the sworn testimony of the CPS worker doesn’t change your mind on the accusation that LK called CPS accusing MB of sexual abuse? I’m not surprised.

BTW, I think that might have been the bombshell.

HUH?

Where did I even say that LK called to accuse anyone of sexual abuse?? Kindly stop with the tiresome game of assigning words or opinions to people that were never said or expressed. I was speculating on all the questions surrounding CPS showing up that day - and nothing more. Thus there is no reason for you to “not be surprised”.

I also pointed out that LK has often contradicted herself with her tales, deleted, edited… and thus even she may not be able to discern what she actually did say vs. what she claimed to have said at some points.

And there was no bombshell.

I thought it was pretty clear why CPS showed up that day, given the sworn testimony of the CPS representative.

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

Fascinating!! This won’t help the future of forensic and police activities IMO!

https://patch.com/new-jersey/across-nj/nj-cops-can-use-recreational-marijuana-duty-state-says

This is a welcome thing as the law field is chock full of really bad alcoholics. I mean BAD. From judges to staff to lawyers to cops. Really really bad. It’s been all around me all my career and I had to stop drunken court officers discharging multiple firearms more than once during out of control Xmas parties.

Plus many others things. MANY.

On the bright side no one remembered a thing this one time after I drove them all home nor remember why the copy machine was broken from the Lieutenant xeroxing his fat naked ass.

But I digress… .

[DownYonder]

“Hello, SafeSport?”
“I am not sure about this but there is some concern at the barn about possible risk to several minors there. The trainer there is a good friend of George Morris and one of the minors is a young boy that the trainer seems quite fond of…”

Yes, hypothetical script. But I can see where a call like that right around the time GM was handed his lifetime ban could have put some things in motion at SS.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless, it is clear that you have some sort of connection to or investment with (whatever form that may be) with the Kaneraks. I can’t see any other reason for your posts or the warped view you hold TBH.

And what is my “connection to” or “investment with” the Kanareks that is so clear to you?

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@eggbutt

I just learned 48 Hours is still actively interviewing victims and others (other than jurors) and doing deep research. Heck, this is could be a mini-series for ABC!

Interesting!

Some Dateline episodes lasted a full two hours, others were only one hour. Does 48 hours ever do 2 hour episodes?

I’m totally curious.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Sdel

@MHM

@CurrentlyHorseless

I’m not sure I believed her. It’s so easy to lie as an anonymous poster on the internet.

WOW. The irony, it leaps out.

Especially since, yes, she was being honest.

You know that the poster was actually Rosanna Williams? How?

Because I found a connection on the forum and asked her. She responded politely, we talked privately briefly, and I wished her well.

The poster in question was AnnaKarena92.

[OntheFnce]

@McGurk

Sorry, you may not have had a chance to read the whole thread.

The horse was sold for 40K, which was probably less than fair market value for the horse at the time.

It was not a donation situation.

Yes, I know the horse sold for 40k. My point was if MB felt the need to “donate” the horse, there would be much better options such as Centenary University which he certainly would know about.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Warmblood1

@CurrentlyHorseless, it is clear that you have some sort of connection to or investment with (whatever form that may be) with the Kaneraks. I can’t see any other reason for your posts or the warped view you hold TBH.

And what is my “connection to” or “investment with” the Kanareks that is so clear to you?

That’s what WE want to know!!!

What is your connection to them?

[eggbutt]

Sidebar: Johnny Depp is testifying tomorrow! All evidence and testimony so far shows Heard is and has lied about abuse and other things in the past, while Depp’s story has not changed at all. Sounds familiar.

[AnnaKarena92]

And your point is precisely what? What is your interest in me? I have already made it more than clear that I will not be discussing Lauren’s business dealings with me.

Further more, before you go spreading rumors, I no longer sell horses by any means (app or otherwise). I was in a car accident in 2020 and, due to a TBI, am no longer able to handle the work.

Please leave me out of your speculation.

[Sdel]

@AnnaKarena92

And your point is precisely what? What is your interest in me? I have already made it more than clear that I will not be discussing Lauren’s business dealings with me.

And just to further bring it home…our private conversations did not have anything to do with LK at all.

[eggbutt]

@AnnaKarena92

And your point is precisely what? What is your interest in me? I have already made it more than clear that I will not be discussing Lauren’s business dealings with me.

Further more, before you go spreading rumors, I no longer sell horses by any means (app or otherwise). I was in a car accident in 2020 and, due to a TBI, am no longer able to handle the work.

Please leave me out of your speculation.

Why on earth is @CurrentlyHorseless dragging other, silent posters back into play? Oh, that’s right…they had to have PROOF. Got it. Wonder if this was proof enough?!

[Knights_Mom]

@eggbutt

@AnnaKarena92

And your point is precisely what? What is your interest in me? I have already made it more than clear that I will not be discussing Lauren’s business dealings with me.

Further more, before you go spreading rumors, I no longer sell horses by any means (app or otherwise). I was in a car accident in 2020 and, due to a TBI, am no longer able to handle the work.

Please leave me out of your speculation.

Why on earth is @CurrentlyHorseless dragging other, silent posters back into play? Oh, that’s right…they had to have PROOF. Got it. Wonder if this was proof enough?!

Strange to require proof from others while you staunchly believe the admitted liar and will defend said liar ad nauseum.