Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[BrendaJane]

seeing this was in the hotel, and we know she stayed in the hospital for about 19 days, that is almost 3 weeks past the shooting.

[eggbutt]

@SierraMist

No, I really do not care. I think some people on here are pretty obsessed about the whole case. And are just continuing on with more hate on a tragic situation. In the end, it doesn’t affect me one way or the other.

Well, I am pleased to hear it doesn’t affect you. It did affect a whole host of people and it didn’t have to happen. The “obsession” is to attempt to make sure others know enough to not let it happen again.

[BrendaJane]

that slide looks like it could take a chunk out of your hand.
And if RG had his hand over MB’s on the handle? I can imagine some damage could be done.

I am not going to the gun shop though to ask…

[BrendaJane]

@SierraMist

GoFundMe does investigate, you know.

did you and Fat Dinah report the page?

[Knights_Mom]

@SierraMist

@eggbutt

@ekat

NGRI douse not equal Guilty But Insane. He’s been acquitted. There’s no finding that he committed a violent crime because he’s been acquitted.

I know other people have said it too, but I just want to reiterate it. NGRI is not a finding that he committed a crime.

This will have to be repeated for years to come. Some don’t get it, or don’t want to get it.

From GoFundMe: “We constantly evaluate and evolve our Terms of Service and consider new factors that keep emerging in today’s world. We care deeply about human rights and have written terms to address this — we do not allow fundraisers that support hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination; or involves weaponry.”

I don’t care one way or the other - just posting what GoFundMe has stated. Maybe some folks should tone down the hate about LK so MB can collect funds to help him out. GoFundMe does investigate, you know.

Is Threat the Kanarek native language?

[RND]

@eggbutt

You mean this restriction from their Terms of Service:

1. the legal defense of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender, gender identity, gender expression, serious disabilities or diseases, financial crimes or crimes of deception;

Someone will probably report it to GoFundMe and then they will decide whether it violates their terms of service or not. It will be interesting to see what happens with it - shooting someone is certainly a crime of violence, but since the jury determined he wasn’t aware that it was wrong at the time, maybe they’ll let it slide. I thought someone said he had a wealthy friend/benefactor type person who was funding his defense but I guess that was wrong. I don’t see a problem with the GoFundMe outside of the fact that I think they are all pretty tacky, but if people want to help him out financially why should anyone stop them?

[KurPlexed]

Someone on youtube posted this and I thought he/ she made a good point

[MHM]

Hmm. I’m not saying that person is wrong.

But I think it’s very hard to say anything with certainty regarding animals. If she was in a frenzy, which certainly sounded like the case, she could have bitten, barked, bitten, barked, etc.

I’m thinking of all the times I’ve seen a horse do something wacky, and afterwards everyone was scratching their heads trying to piece together how such a thing could have happened. Because… animals.

I think better proof would be the picture of how banged up MB was combined with the elapsed time between the 911 call and the first police officer arriving on the scene. How could so much damage have happened in such a short time?

I remember being shocked when that picture was shown during the closing arguments. I had not seen that photo until then.

[roseymare]

Not out of line at all if a second debridement was needed. Could still be possible.

Of course it is also possible he had something else happen that required sutures.

All I am saying is that just because it is weeks out from an event in no way means it could not be from said event. Sometimes injuries don’t heal properly the first time or just need more timem

[IdahoRider]

@hut-ho78

The state proved the elements of the crime that he attempted murder re LK… MB is not criminally liable because he was proved insane.

No, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Big difference.
Sheilah

[IdahoRider]

@CurrentlyHorseless

The repeated accusation that LK called CPS with false accusations of sexual abuse against MB is a lie.

No, she had SS do the work of making the report, after trying to file a report based on how MB hurt her feelings.
Sheilah

[Sdel]

@cutter99

@SierraMist

@evtrmom

https://gofund.me/e873ca1d

That will probably get shut down. GoFundMe’s Terms of Service prohibit raising money for the legal defense of an alleged violent crime .He is still a defendant in a civil suit for the violent crime of shooting LK. His not guilty is by reason of insanity, so he committed a violent crime, but is not responsible for the crime. Will be interesting to see how GoFundMe handles that situation. They may shut it down until there is a disposition of the civil suit.

Funny, I seem to recall verdicts of NG and NGRI last week. Did I miss something? And whoever said this is for legal defense?

I’m behind, but I’m going to chime in. I also believe the judge clearly informed MB that he was no longer considered a criminal by the state of NJ and future hearings about his commitment were not criminal hearings. And the civil suit, is by definition not a crime.

[Sdel]

@BrendaJane

seeing this was in the hotel, and we know she stayed in the hospital for about 19 days, that is almost 3 weeks past the shooting.

Honestly, it looks to me like a broken hand that was surgically repaired. Timeline fits as well. It just seems he had bad medical advice or was stupid in deciding he could keep the cast/sling off. They are uncomfortable as all get out. I never got a hard cast (too much cast anxiety), stayed in a splint the entire 8-10 weeks my hand was broken.

[RND]

@IdahoRider

No, he was found not guilty by reason of insanity. Big difference.
Sheilah

I am pretty sure the judge gave instructions to the jury that if they felt the prosecutor proved the attempted murder charges, they could then consider the insanity defense.

We saw what happened when they felt that the prosecution DID NOT prove the attempted murder piece with RG - MB was found Not Guilty; no need to make a decision on the insanity defense.

The jury decided differently when it came to LK; they came to the conclusion that the prosecutor DID prove the attempted murder part, but they decided that MB was not criminally responsible because he was insane at the time of the shooting.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@DownYonder

@KurPlexed

Could this be a “slide bite”?

That is what I thought when I saw the location of the stitches on RG’s hand. Looked exactly like a slide bite (ask me how I know).

I had never heard of such a thing, but I then googled “slide bite image” and it’s certainly not out of the question. I did think, right from the start, that it was a tattoo though.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Aaah. You just beat me to it. I totally
missed the fact that his records are 6 pages long the first time I looked at that database.

Holy moly.

You are correct - his burglary offense was in July of 2007

And… he has two simple assault charges of his own… one in 1997 and one in 2001. As well as a disorderly conduct charge in 2013, I think. That one seemed related to a drug charge.

Lots of other drug charges.

So… for anyone else who is tracking this…

We are now at a full 7 charges for simple assault for Dad, Mom, LK, and her delightful “fiancé.” As well as 2 burglary charges, a disorderly conduct charge, multiple drug charges, and… some driving issues.

And this is ONLY in the NJ database. All a matter of public record. Anyone can look it up.

Where oh where have the people gone who kept on saying that we were being soooo unfair when describing these people in unflattering terms? How we were out of line to say things like we think they might have some disorders, etc ?

SIX flipping pages? Good grief. Myself or anyone within my family would die of shame to have even one charge.

Just a note, as with @FitzE, there’s a bunch of us outside the USA who can’t view any of these legal pages - thanks for putting the detail here.

[LiberalSnowflake]

@eggbutt

Yeah, I hear 48 Hours is still actively searching for valid, reallife friends of LK who can provide positive experiences with her.

Surely Shelly Nelly Belly will step up to defend her BFF on 48 Hours? “Love you more!” “No, I love YOU more!”

[BrendaJane]

Adding to the timeline thing, I would expect that Rob and Bob had made a huge deal our of the injury and played it up had it happened on that fateful day, or, in case of the little gun taking a chunk out of him, he had to downplay it, because self defense would have been more probably.
does that make sense?
I think MB was damn lucky that the cop was just down the road when the call went in…

[Fiesta01]

Did anyone see the comment on this tweet that they heard that JK bought the farm next to MB’s farm in FL? This person appears to live in the area.

Hoping this is not true.

[MorganSercu]

@haleybot

Lk had told me she was involved with RG before she even got married. Continued to be involved with him while married. The husband found out. Divorce happened.

Can’t cheat without being a liar.