Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[ekat]

Is JK listed as a party to any of the suits/counter claims or cross claims? If not, we may never know anything beyond what LK’s own income and assets are. That might give clues, but not definitive answers beyond he gets his money from the bank.

[DownYonder]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

I guess it’s possible that the K parents made millions and millions from smart investments, and just chose to sock it away in the bank and trust funds, and not actually move out of their longtime family home.

Or the money could be in a trust established by grandparents for LK, with JK named as the fiduciary. And continued in that role for some reason even though LK is of legal age.

[eggbutt]

@ekat

@eggbutt

could even see a scenario where LK would train with him again

Yes, clown.

It’s this line I was referring to, which seems to be missing in the one you posted upthread.

You are correct! I missed it, but went back and bolded it on the original from the QFP.

[eggbutt]

@ekat

Is JK listed as a party to any of the suits/counter claims or cross claims? If not, we may never know anything beyond what LK’s own income and assets are. That might give clues, but not definitive answers beyond he gets his money from the bank.

Maybe he is now. IDK.

[Davignport]

I see LK is posting on Instagram about a party that was had over the weekend. Posting pics with her sisters and still blabbing about the “truth” that will come out. One poster has gone right back at her about the psycho she is and that the “truth” has alreay come out. She just will not go the freak away, will she.

[ekat]

Odd thing to edit out, except for everyone calling him on the carpet for that.

[eggbutt]

As I was searching IM’s posts from his activity list (contrary to what you’ve been led to believe, I DON’T take screen shots as a rule and don’t have a vast file of them), I found this goody from March 21:

Sorry, guess again. As a matter of fact go to your nearest casino and bet your house, your life and your children’s lives that no recording devices were taken by RG and LK.
As for the recording devices being illegal…we shall see. Not in the case at hand but with whatever comes after…media, USOPC, SafeSport…who knows?
As an extremely experienced criminal defense lawyer has advised LK and RG (I wonder if this was the master Ed David?)…"if you put a recording device in your locker because you were afraid…and that recording device revealed a plot to do you harm…I’ll get that dismissed in 10 minutes! And if the plot to do you harm actually took place…I’ll get that dismissed in 5 minutes.

Italics - my insertion

[MHM]

@eggbutt

As an extremely experienced criminal defense lawyer has advised LK and RG (I wonder if this was the master Ed David?) …"if you put a recording device in your locker because you were afraid…and that recording device revealed a plot to do you harm…I’ll get that dismissed in 10 minutes! And if the plot to do you harm actually took place…I’ll get that dismissed in 5 minutes.

I wonder how that legal theory applies to a recorder that was not in the locker?

I did think it was interesting how they had been claiming the whole time that the locker had a bench in front of it, and then all the witnesses and photographic evidence in the trial indicated there was not a bench anywhere near the lockers.

[roseymare]

@DownYonder

the money could be in a trust established by grandparents for LK, with JK named as the fiduciary. And continued in that role for some reason even though LK is of legal age.

I’m being really really stereotypical here but…around here when it happens it is always the third generation that bankrupts the companies and runs out the trust funds. Grandparents build solid company. Second generation keeps it afloat and third generation runs it aground.

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@DownYonder

Or the money could be in a trust established by grandparents for LK, with JK named as the fiduciary. And continued in that role for some reason even though LK is of legal age.

This is true. But don’t you think she would have mentioned these crazy wealthy grandparents by now? Like who were they? Kirby’s? JKs?

Something still seems weird to me.

And let’s just talk about the monthly cash outflow involved in keeping that many horses in full board in Loxahatchee. And riding with Ulf Moller regularly. And some of the horses being in full training… likely with 4 shoes, regular vet and chiro, saddle fittings, etc.

Let’s just assume no entry fees for now, since she hasn’t shown in a while.

Granted rates vary in summer vs. winter. But it’s safe to say that there will be a cash outflow of $10,000 or more, each month. Just to support the dressage hobby. Which is fine. That’s her choice and her business.

But that’s a cash outflow of $120,000 a year. Or more.

Then there’s the rental of the efficiency apartment at P dressage. I don’t know the monthly rate, but that’s probably conservatively another thousand each month.

And then there is the fact that a home was purchased… in cash.

I can’t remember the price. A few hundred thousand?

Then there is insurance on the home, horses, personal health insurance for LK and RG (neither has employer provided health insurance)…

That’s a lot. Every month.

Most trusts that are set up with a fiduciary for limited withdrawals are set up in a conservative investment scheme that is low risk in nature, and hedged against inflation and stock market ups and downs. Some are set up so that a person can only withdraw income each month, but not crack the actual principle. Anyway… I just keep on puzzling through numbers, and thinking about how big the pile of money had to be, that prigally funded the trust, to generate income sufficient to withdraw somewhere in the neighborhood of $150,000 a year to fund all this.

That’s a big old trust. Really big. It seems odd LK never mentioned exactly which wealthy relative left her millions and millions of dollars, all in a trust. She put a lot of info out on social media. It’s odd she skipped that detail.

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

And then there is the fact that a home was purchased… in cash.

I can’t remember the price. A few hundred thousand?

$530,000

[trubandloki]

@ekat

Odd thing to edit out, except for everyone calling him on the carpet for that.

And it does not make their level of hurt look near as good in their civil case if they are going around saying that they like MB and they would train with him again if the option was there.

@MHM

I did think it was interesting how they had been claiming the whole time about the locker with the bench in front of it, and then all the witnesses and photographic evidence in the trial indicated there was not a bench anywhere near the lockers

Details details. Silly. Just because the facts don’t match what Bob has been saying all along does not mean that Bob is not telling the truth.
/sarcasm

[Virginia_Horse_Mom]

@eggbutt

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

And then there is the fact that a home was purchased… in cash.

I can’t remember the price. A few hundred thousand?

$530,000

Are we positive he bought it for her with his own money? Or… just cash that came from an unknown origin, and the house is listed in both their names?

[roseymare]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

That’s a big old trust. Really big. It seems odd LK never mentioned exactly which wealthy relative left her millions and millions of dollars, all in a trust. She put a lot of info out on social media. It’s odd she skipped that detail.

But not unheard of. We have clients with trusts that their friends and neighbors probably don’t know about. I think anything is possible. And people who amass money often live in what some would see as frugal housing. It is all about what your focus is on.

I think what I find odd is that it seems uncharacteristic for her NOT to brag about the source. This makes me more curious as to where it is from.

[eggbutt]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

@eggbutt

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

And then there is the fact that a home was purchased… in cash.

I can’t remember the price. A few hundred thousand?

$530,000

Are we positive he bought it for her with his own money? Or… just cash that came from an unknown origin, and the house is listed in both their names?

Public records don’t say where the cash came from. It was a cash sale and the deed is in JK’s and LK’s names.

[eggbutt]

@eggbutt

that no recording devices were taken by RG and LK

Notice the initials that are left out. Who was at the farm the day after the shooting?

[Sdel]

@eggbutt

Sorry, guess again. As a matter of fact go to your nearest casino and bet your house, your life and your children’s lives that no recording devices were taken by RG and LK.

Cross reference that with the one about RG and JK sneaking silently into the barn the day after the shooting and seeing no one, for the explicit purpose of accessing something in LK’s locker, that was very careful to say that no tapes or videos were taken……not recording devices (since in theory she had a recording device in the locker)……

[Angela_Freda]

She could use NPs editor.

[trubandloki]

@Angela_Freda

She could use NPs editor.

Shouldn’t that be plural? Didn’t NP say he had several editors?

[lazaret]

@eggbutt

I’m told the Kanarek’s civil attorney is on the way over to the Kanarek household with a bottle of DOM.

I imagine that would be par for the course when courting clients for expensive civil litigation. Champagne would be a business expense, since it obviously impresses this client.

You’d think for a top 5 global law firm, they’d at least step up from Dom to a De Venoge or Le Chemin if they’re already swinging by the local Total Wine. After all, they’ll be paying for it at $500/hr billable.

ETA: you can even get $50 off a bottle of de Brignac with a coupon code at wine.com right now!