Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[hut-ho78]

He served it the day before he shot her. It was unfiled. It was unenforceable until it was filed. Had he used the information he gathered to get a 3 day eviction instead of the 30 day eviction, it’s possible she could have been out. She said plenty on SM. He had the private detective information. He had all the information that some people here sent them just prior to the shooting.

He had a delusion. He was mentally ill. He had alternatives to shooting her he didn’t use. Before he can be deemed as no longer a threat to himself or others, he will need to understand that.

Y’all aren’t helping.

There are a lot scarier clients than LK and RG. There are scarier trainers.

[Knights_Mom]

@hut-ho78

He served it the day before he shot her. It was unfiled. It was unenforceable until it was filed. Had he used the information he gathered to get a 3 day eviction instead of the 30 day eviction, it’s possible she could have been out. She said plenty on SM. He had the private detective information. He had all the information that some people here sent them just prior to the shooting.

He had a delusion. He was mentally ill. He had alternatives to shooting her he didn’t use. Before he can be deemed as no longer a threat to himself or others, he will need to understand that.

Y’all aren’t helping.

There are a lot scarier clients than LK and RG. There are scarier trainers.

The serving of the papers was the mandatory 1st step before its filed. Cases that are filed are for tenants who just won’t go the nice way. I’m betting there was verbal messaging to GET OUT prior to the written notice.

[Danvers]

Oh. My. Wow. Looks like the K’s are out in force

[MHM]

@hut-ho78

It didn’t happen in a vacuum. It happened with a divorce and business breakup and $965,000 cash payout which possibly included 3 horses or they were plus, loss of income from wife/business partner, loss of barn manager/wife (notice LO was the one to step up not MHG or RC), aging, prior abuse, 8 plus concussions, an ice storm, and at least one known PITA client.

So by your logic, if somebody is standing at the rim of the Grand Canyon, and you shove him over the edge, it’s not your fault, because he was already standing at the edge of the rim of the Grand Canyon anyway when you happened to bump into him? Or pushed him on purpose?

Interesting theory.

However he got to the edge, it seems MB did not go over the edge until LK appeared on the scene and shoved him.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have resolved the cognitive dissonance by assuming for now, until there is actual evidence , that the allegations in #1 are just that - allegations of a defense lawyer doing his job to get his client acquitted, and quite possibly not true.

Uh…the multiple emails/texts between LK/JK/RG that were read off by the defense came from somewhere……oh, right, from the discovery on LK’s devices. Those weren’t just made up by the defense attorney. Also, the testimony about how RG couldn’t give MB a bill because it would screw up LK/JK’s plan?

I say we’ve already gotten a sneak peak at the evidence. What we didn’t see, was evidence of a murder plot….despite it being caught on “legally” made recordings.

[hut-ho78]

@MHM

@hut-ho78

It didn’t happen in a vacuum. It happened with a divorce and business breakup and $965,000 cash payout which possibly included 3 horses or they were plus, loss of income from wife/business partner, loss of barn manager/wife (notice LO was the one to step up not MHG or RC), aging, prior abuse, 8 plus concussions, an ice storm, and at least one known PITA client.

So by your logic, if somebody is standing at the rim of the Grand Canyon, and you shove him over the edge, it’s not your fault, because he was already standing at the edge of the rim of the Grand Canyon anyway when you happened to bump into him? Or pushed him on purpose?

Interesting theory.

However he got to the edge, it seems MB did not go over the edge until LK appeared on the scene and shoved him.

Or she just happened to be standing in his way so he took her with him on his way off the ledge.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@eggbutt

@CurrentlyHorseless

Eggbutt denied any connection with MB’s inner circle, and it turns out she was getting information from those close to MB. From Lara Osborne, I’m guessing.

Oh, this is fun! Goodness me, over the past 2 1/2 years I have done my due diligence and made friends with many people connected to Michael Barisone. IM isn’t the only one who knows lots of people. When this began I knew two people smack dab in the middle of the situation. It was the personal knowledge of one of those people that prompted me to stay involved.

It is pathetic that anyone thinks I have a team of anything. This isn’t some high school sport, much to your apparent dismay. So, if another poster sees logic in my speculations and posts who the heck cares? I don’t need anyone to agree with me, unlike you and several other posters. It is fascinating your need to categorize people into neat little boxes. Life isn’t like that no matter how hard you try.

And for the record, I suspect you are close to the Kanarek family. I don’t particularly care other than it certainly explains your posts and apparent rabid flagging.

Please be specific in terms of your speculation as to my connection to the Kanarek family so that I can flag it. And LOL.

[Scribbler]

@CanteringCarrot

@Scribbler

@ToN_Farm

@CanteringCarrot

Who and how is anyone ruining LK’s life? Or even trying to, for that matter. People talking about what LK has actually done or said doesn’t equate to them ruining her life. In general, I think her life is far from “ruined”

I wouldn’t call it ruining her life, but there have been posts here where they wanted to blackball her at boarding barns.

There have been posts where people want her banned from competition by SS or USEF. That’s a much bigger hit than being evicted from any given barn. But nobody so far says that calling for a SS ban of LK is “ruining her life.” Or maybe they have said that, but my recently discovered Ignore function has hidden this.

Once again, her own actions would ruin her. If someone acts a certain way that violates some rule or code of conduct in relation to SS or USEF and is then reported and subsequently receives a suspension or ban, the only person at fault is the banned individual. Anyone can and should report violations. Legitimate violations. If LK were to receive a suspension/ban, that’s her fault. That’s no one ruining her or bashing her.

Exactly. And if someone’s behavior leads to a situation where no reasonable barn manager would take them in, then that’s no one ruining her or bashing her. I follow a local “bad boarders/ bad barns” FB group which is (fortunately) low traffic, but gets the occasional post of the nature “Suzie Brown who also goes by the name of Betty Green has left two barns owing back board and beats her horses” or whatever. Obviously this is all very low on the pecking order.

I agree it is tacky to flood the SM of a barn with scare stories about an existing client. That’s more out of concern for the legitimate barn than for the client, though.

[hut-ho78]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have resolved the cognitive dissonance by assuming for now, until there is actual evidence , that the allegations in #1 are just that - allegations of a defense lawyer doing his job to get his client acquitted, and quite possibly not true.

Uh…the multiple emails/texts between LK/JK/RG that were read off by the defense came from somewhere……oh, right, from the discovery on LK’s devices. Those weren’t just made up by the defense attorney. Also, the testimony about how RG couldn’t give MB a bill because it would screw up LK/JK’s plan?

I say we’ve already gotten a sneak peak at the evidence. What we didn’t see, was evidence of a murder plot….despite it being caught on “legally” made recordings.

Or was RC told to bring her gun? Any way a conspiracist wants to look at this, there could be one. I don’t think so. I think the wrong fragile people were put in the same location and it was a disaster for everyone.

[lazaret]

I still haven’t seen an answer as to why people keep bringing up this divorce involving a person in a new relationship who was, by all accounts, happy - as if this divorce was this huge deal that caused some sort of event that literally nobody (except these two posters) has ever referred to.

He got divorced. There was a settlement. This happens to millions of people every day. It’s not Broderick v. Broderick no matter how much you’d like it to be.

NB: this is the “royal you” and I recognize that MHM isn’t the poster doing it. It was easier to reply to this containing post on mobile.

[hut-ho78]

@Danvers

Oh. My. Wow. Looks like the K’s are out in force

Nope. Don’t know them. Wouldn’t know them if I was standing in front of them.

[lazaret]

Are you alleging now that LK was trying to save MB?

That is so wild as to defy comprehension.

[MHM]

@Virginia_Horse_Mom

Frankly, @hut-ho78 speculating that the assault charges on their records had something to do with the troubles daughters drug history? I could see that being possible.

Is it impossible? No.

Is it terribly likely, especially considering the source of this theory?

[hut-ho78]

The 7 Most Stressful Life Changes (and How to Cope With Them)

It’s usually no. 2 just after death as a major cause of stress.

[hut-ho78]

@hut-ho78

https://www.inc.com/larry-alton/the-7-most-stressful-life-changes-and-how-to-cope-with-them.html

It’s usually no. 2 just after death as a major cause of stress.

And another.

The Top 5 Most Stressful Life Events

[lazaret]

I think making this assumption about him is a lot wilder than the “assumptions” that people are making about LK based on her own statements.

But keep up the “movies” they appear to have an audience of two.

I bet the stress of an ex wife is a lot less than the stress of someone threatening to burn down your barn and ruin your business.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@Sdel

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have resolved the cognitive dissonance by assuming for now, until there is actual evidence , that the allegations in #1 are just that - allegations of a defense lawyer doing his job to get his client acquitted, and quite possibly not true.

Uh…the multiple emails/texts between LK/JK/RG that were read off by the defense came from somewhere……oh, right, from the discovery on LK’s devices. Those weren’t just made up by the defense attorney. Also, the testimony about how RG couldn’t give MB a bill because it would screw up LK/JK’s plan?

I say we’ve already gotten a sneak peak at the evidence. What we didn’t see, was evidence of a murder plot….despite it being caught on “legally” made recordings.

Good grief. Of course there were multiple texts between LK, her boyfriend and her father.

Apparently neither side wanted to attempt to introduce the audio recordings. No one has been charged with illegal recording - not LK, or RG, or JK.

[lazaret]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Apparently neither side wanted to attempt to introduce the audio recordings.

It doesn’t matter if they did, they would not be admissible as one party to the conversation was not aware of the recording at the time the recording was made. That applies to both sides and does not mean nobody “wanted” to.

In fact LK seemed quite eager for them to be heard.

[hut-ho78]

@lazaret

I think making this assumption about him is a lot wilder than the “assumptions” that people are making about LK based on her own statements.

But keep up the “movies” they appear to have an audience of two.

I bet the stress of an ex wife is a lot less than the stress of someone threatening to burn down your barn and ruin your business.

There was no testimony as to LK threatening to burn down the barn.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Good grief. Of course there were multiple texts between LK, her boyfriend and her father.

Yes….emails and texts about engaging in criminal acts against MB.