Barisone Verdict Is In: Not Guilty By Reason of Insanity

[Sdel]

@ekat

@Sdel

Seeing as how SGF as an LLC is an independent party, and discovery is reciprocal, they can certainly carry MB’s weight for a while in progressing the case.

Yes.

It’s just pretty telling that as soon as the clock ticked on 14 days post verdict, they were the first ones trying to get the case moving again.

We’ve only heard bits and pieces about them…but it seems the LLC was this couple’s way to structure their retirement….

The farm sold…I’m sure they want it over so they can recover their money and retire.

[ekat]

@Sdel

We’ve only heard bits and pieces about them…but it seems the LLC was this couple’s way to structure their retirement….

The farm sold…I’m sure they want it over so they can recover their money and retire.

Absolutely. My point was more that this is the exact opposite move from rolling over and handing out settlements.

[ohnoO]

@cutter99

is watching every and any thread she thinks she can weaponize against anyone who does not wholeheartedly buy the manure she was selling.

If so, how is she containing her indignation or rage (or whatever the right word is) over not being able to respond?

I would think any new account she might create would have….let’s just say, a “very obvious” cadence to it.

[Sdel]

@ekat

@Sdel

We’ve only heard bits and pieces about them…but it seems the LLC was this couple’s way to structure their retirement….

The farm sold…I’m sure they want it over so they can recover their money and retire.

Absolutely. My point was more that this is the exact opposite move from rolling over and handing out settlements.

Exactly, seems like what MB’s lawyer has hinted they have for discovery is maybe not just smoke…since SGF got it too and they are fighting back. That was what the last big push was for the civil case……access to the prosecution’s case file.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

On the civil Suit: the attorneys for SGF filed a proposed order requesting the stay to be lifted yesterday.

For those that think SGF wants to settle, or give RG an extortionate payoff or whatever, it’s interesting that they’re the first ones to court asking to bring on the discovery.

SGF is suing Michael Barisone Dressage, Ruth Cox, and LK, correct?

Yes, I’m guessing that the insurance company for SGF will attempt to settle. If you want to settle sooner rather than later, I would think you’d want to move the case along.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

@Sdel

We’ve only heard bits and pieces about them…but it seems the LLC was this couple’s way to structure their retirement….

The farm sold…I’m sure they want it over so they can recover their money and retire.

Absolutely. My point was more that this is the exact opposite move from rolling over and handing out settlements.

What LLC owning a large horse facility would not have liability insurance? When the LLC is sued, it’s up to their liability insurer to defend the suit or settle.

[ekat]

Didn’t we talk about this before? Insurance companies don’t just settle.

Why, after watching LK on the stand in the criminal trial, would any attorney, whether it’s SGF or their insurance company, settle?

Again, have you read the documents in the suit?

[Knights_Mom]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@Knights_Mom

@CurrentlyHorseless

Since we now know that he was delusional in August, 2019, and a danger to himself and others, it was a fault of SGF to have him employed as a trainer for as long as they did. That’s what the civil suit is about.

This statement makes zero sense. MB was part of SGF so you’re asserting that it was the fault of MB to have MB in his employ? Yes there are other members but SGF was largely MB. And to sue for “failure to predict the future” when it was the plaintiff that caused the mental break in the first place - intentionally so - is just absurd.

Weren’t you a professional career law clerk? Who bragged about “telling the lawyers what to do?”

SGF and Michael Barisone, as an individual, and Michael Barisone Dressage, as a business, are distinct legal entities. They each have different policies for liability insurance, different tax ID numbers, and different lawyers.

How do you not understand that SGF as a legal entity has the right to protect its legal and financial rights by suing Michael Barisone, the individual, Michael Barisone Dressage, the business, and Ruth Cox? Obviously SGF as a legal entity is going to say, ‘the liability belongs to them, not to SGF.’

You seem angry with me. I must have hit a nerve.

Again.

Of course I understand the different entities. I also understand that MB intersects a few of them. You just don’t like that I clarified what your statement meant as an absurdity.

And oh, I wasn’t bragging. I was stating fact. Actual fact. Not the gooblygob erroneous spews of misinformation, misdirection and never-ending falsehoods that LK and her fans have attempted to vomit up as truth.

So sorry your panties are in a bunch and all but the fact I didn’t list every entity et al doesn’t negate the validity of my statement one bit.

[ekat]

@CurrentlyHorseless

What LLC owning a large horse facility would not have liability insurance? When the LLC is sued, it’s up to their liability insurer to defend the suit or settle.

I know we talked about insurance denying claims before.

I’m going to quote just one line from SGF’s answer to the suit, dated BEFORE they had the opportunity to see the plaintiff in action, under oath:

“Plaintiff’s damages were caused by Plaintiff’s own negligence”

Does that sound like they’d be more likely to settle now, after watching her lie on the stand AND admitting she had a plan to ruin MB on the stand?

[eggbutt]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I fully understand that those of you have made (unpaid) careers of trashing LK need to, well, trash her for using the phrase. It’s your job/career.

Simply question, do you hold these people accountable for anything or do they always walk on the probervial water in your mind?

Well, I suppose there has to be someone to defend them and you were the chosen one.

[Sdel]

@CurrentlyHorseless

@ekat

@Sdel

We’ve only heard bits and pieces about them…but it seems the LLC was this couple’s way to structure their retirement….

The farm sold…I’m sure they want it over so they can recover their money and retire.

Absolutely. My point was more that this is the exact opposite move from rolling over and handing out settlements.

What LLC owning a large horse facility would not have liability insurance? When the LLC is sued, it’s up to their liability insurer to defend the suit or settle.

You really don’t understand how this works do you? SGF’s Insurance is not involved in the suit and has no power to settle anything or not.

[eggbutt]

@Knights_Mom

No. I like sage. I like growing it. Looking at it. Smudging with it.

[cutter99]

@SillyHorse

@CurrentlyHorseless

I would not talk about a career as a house cleaner, even though paid.

This is quite telling.

I know some “house cleaners” who make great money. And own their own businesses with multiple employees.

[CurrentlyHorseless]

@ekat

Didn’t we talk about this before? Insurance companies don’t just settle.

Why, after watching LK on the stand in the criminal trial, would any attorney, whether it’s SGF or their insurance company, settle?

Again, have you read the documents in the suit?

Did you hear the testimony from the thoracic surgeon? She has holes in her torso.

Insurance companies settle if they think it is in the best interests of their shareholders to do so. It often is.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Perhaps she is suing for “loss of enjoyment” due to get tiring career being made more difficult by the injuries,

except for her long history of not showing up for lessons prior to the injury.

[eggbutt]

I repeat my question to you.

[ekat]

Do you understand contributory negligence?

Again, have you read the civil suit and answers, etc…?

Also, from SGF’s answer:

“ At all times relevant hereto, Michael Barisone, either individually or through his entity Michael Barisone Dressage Stables LLC were parties to a contract which calls for the contractual indemnification of Sweet Grass by Michael Barisone, either individually or through his entity Michael Barisone Dressage Stables LLC. While denying any and all liability to Plaintiff, if Plaintiff is successful in proving her case against Sweet Grass as a result of the acts or omissions of Michael Barisone, then, as a result of the Contract between Sweet Grass and Michael Barisone, either individually or through his entity Michael Barisone Dressage Stables LLC, then Sweet Grass asserts that it is entitled to be indemnified and saved harmless from all loss or liability, including attorneys’ fees and costs arising from the instant litigation, by Michael Barisone, either individually or through his entity Michael Barisone Dressage Stables LLC pursuant to express and implied contractual agreements.

Again, that was before the criminal trial. That doesn’t sound very settlement-y to me.

[trubandloki]

@CurrentlyHorseless

Did you hear the testimony from the thoracic surgeon? She has holes in her torso.

Still? She is walking around with holes? You said she has holes, not had holes.

I admit, that does sound uncomfortable.

The lovely photos she likes to show off online it sure seemed like her holes were well healed.

I can say, the holes I have in my torso from having surgery healed up and have not limited my riding.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I suppose that some would call any continuous employment for most of their working life in a given field as a career, but given the concept of a progression of achievement as part of the definition of career, I see a distinction between a “long term job” and a “career”. I don’t see the paid aspect of the endeavor being a necessary attribute of a “career.”

So even though JK has been a lawyer all these years, it’s not his career since he’s ‘only’ been a lawyer. Got it.

[Angela_Freda]

@CurrentlyHorseless

I have absolutely nothing against house cleaners, but don’t understand how you progress “up the ranks,” as you do in dressage.

I worked in college as a house cleaner. First on a crew, then sent to jobs solo, then as a manger of a crew. so yes, cleaners have a career.